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Old 12 June 2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/5069190.stm

some balance to the debate, nice to see.
'muslim leader' my ar$e He's not a real muslim - just some politically correct patronising wannabe ******** who lives in a big house in darkest Wiltshire. Out of touch ***** like him need a good kicking.
I'll bet he's never been to an inner city in his life.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
'muslim leader' my ar$e He's not a real muslim - just some politically correct patronising wannabe ******** who lives in a big house in darkest Wiltshire. Out of touch ***** like him need a good kicking.
I'll bet he's never been to an inner city in his life.
You can't afford for people like John Irving to offer a balanced, well considered, Muslim perspective can you UB? Those pictures of the radical banner waving Muslims must have been a Godsend to you. Herein lays your greatest dichotomy: the very group who you profess to despise, offer the greatest support to your skewed arguments. If these people are repatriated, as you have stated you wish to happen, at whom will you then direct your hate? Only moderate Muslims will remain who will pose no physical threat to 'our way of life'. Although I'll never know the truth, I'm guessing you'll miss the really nasty ones when they're gone.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
You can't afford for people like John Irving to offer a balanced, well considered, Muslim perspective can you UB? Those pictures of the radical banner waving Muslims must have been a Godsend to you. Herein lays your greatest dichotomy: the very group who you profess to despise, offer the greatest support to your skewed arguments. If these people are repatriated, as you have stated you wish to happen, at whom will you then direct your hate? Only moderate Muslims will remain who will pose no physical threat to 'our way of life'. Although I'll never know the truth, I'm guessing you'll miss the really nasty ones when they're gone.

Stop trying to over intellectualise everything. Say what you want but John Irving does not represent anyone except himself - certainly not any kind of islamic community. While we're at it, pull your head out of your PC butt and realise one thing. I don't hate muslims I simply recognise the reality that they hate *us* and are clearly willing to do everything they can to destroy our way of life, whilst at the same time acting as parasites on our fast dwindling good will – there's your 'dichotomy'. Unfortunately they will never 'be gone' as you put it. Far from it, thanks to our weak minded government and lack of any form of immigration controls and disasterous foreign policies the radicals are on the rise in the UK and feeling confident as slogans on the posters explain.
Old 12 June 2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck

I think muslims are really Daleks in disguise:


"Exterminate..."


I wish a bunch of footy hooligans had bumped into that lot and kicked the living **** out of em!

WTF **** had any of the people in the World Trade or on the underground done to them or their religion??

**** off to your own country if you dont like the way we live!

fcukin' scum
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Stop trying to over intellectualise everything. Say what you want but John Irving does not represent anyone except himself - certainly not any kind of islamic community. While we're at it, pull your head out of your PC butt and realise one thing. I don't hate muslims I simply recognise the reality that they hate *us* and are clearly willing to do everything they can to destroy our way of life, whilst at the same time acting as parasites on our fast dwindling good will – there's your 'dichotomy'. Unfortunately they will never 'be gone' as you put it. Far from it, thanks to our weak minded government and lack of any form of immigration controls and disasterous foreign policies the radicals are on the rise in the UK and feeling confident as slogans on the posters explain.
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....6&postcount=75
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....6&postcount=83
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....&postcount=101
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....&postcount=108

I see no hate in these posts; frustration yes, but not hate. They're just lads; like minded petrolheads who happen to believe in the teachings (to varying degrees) of a (The) 6th/7th century prophet (Prophet).

I see no positive outcome to your determination to stoke the flames of division; other then your need to bolster your own ego-centric agenda by swaying the minds of the impressionable.

When I see the banner bearers in the said pictures I feel anger; not just because they are as bigoted as the likes of you and Pete95, but because of the damage they do to the vast swathes of Muslims who make such a positive contribution to this country.

I am British, White and of a Christian upbringing and my allegiance will always be to this heritage; this does not, however, preclude me from being tolerant, considerate and understanding within our global village. A true Nationalist will engender peace within their nation by fostering a harmonic, not divisive, co-existence.
Old 12 June 2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor

I am British, White and of a Christian upbringing and my allegiance will always be to this heritage; this does not, however, preclude me from being tolerant, considerate and understanding within our global village. A true Nationalist will engender peace within their nation by fostering a harmonic, not divisive, co-existence.
What a load of old tree hugging nonsense. Just the kind of naive PC claptrap that's allowing the fundementalists to ferment in this country.

Have a bag of Mexican Peace Crisps, man. I think the heat must be getting to you

Old 12 June 2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor

When I see the banner bearers in the said pictures I feel anger; not just because they are as bigoted as the likes of you and Pete95, but because of the damage they do to the vast swathes of Muslims who make such a positive contribution to this country.
Indeed and I am as angry as hell about the damage such ignorant plackard-waving goat-botherers do to all people of Asian origin . Not because I'm a PC do-gooder (sorry but that's how you come across), but because it actually affects me and my family when I've got nothing to do with any of them!
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Originally Posted by Suresh

Indeed and I am as angry as hell about the damage such ignorant plackard-waving goat-botherers do to all people of Asian origin . Not because I'm a PC do-gooder (sorry but that's how you come across), but because it actually affects me and my family when I've got nothing to do with any of them!
I do feel for you mate. Not everyone seems to realize this is just a vocal minority and not the 'norm'.

Just don't understand the hatred these people have. Suspect it's an outlet for their sh1tty lives. Looking for someone to blame.

Wonder how long a group of westeners would last in the middle east waving banners round saying 'behead those who insult Jesus!'

Surely they must see these people are protesting in a public place without being killed where they stand and think 'actually maybe they arent all evil fire breathers in the west'
Old 12 June 2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Not because I'm a PC do-gooder (sorry but that's how you come across)
Really! That's a shame. I don't intend to be; just trying to be honest. I'm pro-fox hunting if that helps; I also like meat, have a full de-cat and got p1ssed whilst shouting "En-ger-land" a lot on Saturday.
Old 12 June 2006, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Indeed and I am as angry as hell about the damage such ignorant plackard-waving goat-botherers do to all people of Asian origin . Not because I'm a PC do-gooder (sorry but that's how you come across), but because it actually affects me and my family when I've got nothing to do with any of them!


Yes Suresh we all have crosses to bear. However to brand someone as a PC do-gooder who is going against the grain to champion the cause for law abiding and respectable immigrants of all persuasions, is a little churlish don't you think? For the record the antics of the placard waving buffoons affects me too and like you I haven't got anything to do with them either.

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Old 12 June 2006, 05:40 PM
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Its the usual suspects again, nothing betther to do than post claptrap on here. If you actually took any notice of the majority of muslims you would find out they have as much disgust for the bombers/placard wavers/ etc etc as anybody else, but no that doesn't suit your agenda does it. All I can say is J Taylor is a bigger, better and more intelligent man than many of you will ever be !

Peace
Old 12 June 2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by shustir
Its the usual suspects again, nothing betther to do than post claptrap on here. If you actually took any notice of the majority of muslims you would find out they have as much disgust for the bombers/placard wavers/ etc etc as anybody else, but no that doesn't suit your agenda does it. All I can say is J Taylor is a bigger, better and more intelligent man than many of you will ever be !

Peace
The antics of the suicide bombers and placard wavers is a classic example of people twisting things to suit their own agenda. The irony is committing suicide is against Islam so these people who do it are probably going to hell and not heaven.
Old 13 June 2006, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shustir
Its the usual suspects again, nothing betther to do than post claptrap on here. If you actually took any notice of the majority of muslims you would find out they have as much disgust for the bombers/placard wavers/ etc etc as anybody else, but no that doesn't suit your agenda does it. All I can say is J Taylor is a bigger, better and more intelligent man than many of you will ever be !

Peace
Yes mate - bury your head in the sand.

I'm sure when the BNP come round your house to kick the **** out of you because you're a suicide bomber you'll be able to take solice in the fact you have the moral high ground.

The danger the muslim community faces is that they are increasingly seen as defenders of muslims at all costs - the white bint in this case asking muslims to not suppoort the police is a prime example of this.

If you can't see the danger in this then you are a fool . The radical right wingers in the muslim dominated communities will gain more and more "respect" from the easily lead indigenous population.

How much longer before another Bradford ?
Old 13 June 2006, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The irony is committing suicide is against Islam so these people who do it are probably going to hell and not heaven.
What do you mean "probably" going to hell and not heaven?!! They arent going to either as neither exist - they'll be dead

We are living in the 21st century, not the middle ages. It amazes me that in this day and age people still live by fictional rules from "allah" or whatever. Its no different to believing in the tooth fairy
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Originally Posted by Rabid

We could round up all the muslims and stick them in concentration camps prior to gassing them. While we are at it why not round up Irish catholics, gays, political enemies and people who 'look funny'?





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Nowt wrong with Catholics mate, rest of your post is spot on though
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Originally Posted by Petem95
What do you mean "probably" going to hell and not heaven?!! They arent going to either as neither exist - they'll be dead

We are living in the 21st century, not the middle ages. It amazes me that in this day and age people still live by fictional rules from "allah" or whatever. Its no different to believing in the tooth fairy

What the tooth fairy does not exist! Next you will be saying there is no Santa Claus.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
What the tooth fairy does not exist! Next you will be saying there is no Santa Claus.
Oh Santa Claus is real! Just the tooth fairy thats fictional
Old 13 June 2006, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cookstar
Nowt wrong with Catholics mate, rest of your post is spot on though
Apart from them bombing London many times.
Old 13 June 2006, 10:27 PM
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JTaylor thanks for the kind words and encouragement.

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Originally Posted by Reality
Sorry mate - but when I see for myself thousands of muslim brothers dressed up as terrorists and demanding the lives of cartoonists I'm gonna form my own opinion on who they would rather support - The British public or their Muslim brother terrorist scum.

I aint saying all Muslims are the same - but there certainly seems to be a significant minority that have had enough of the British involvement with the slaughter of their muslim brothers abroad.
I see what you're saying but I have to ask again about perception. Not wishing to sound pedantic but there were not thousands of people in the protest you mention.

What do you think the required percentage is, of people acting in the same way, to be able to tarr a whole group of people with the same brush? Is it 1%, 5%, or 50%.

Please answer that. I have previously put this question to the right wing lunatics on here, but they are incapable of answering a sensible question, of any type.

People waving placards like that are no better than the likes of the NF and are, in my opinion, the same size of insignificant minority as that group, with the same type of extreme views.

No one in their right mind would ever have associated the NF or such with ordinary, British people.

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I feel sorry for the majority of peaceful Muslims in this country,but can the Muslim people here give an accurate view of the level of extremism in the community?people only have the biased views of the media to go on.
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Its just exactly what you expect from them really. Just imagine if a load of white people went and demonstrated with placards saying stuff like "kill all muslims" and cartoons of mohammed The police would come down on them like a tonne of bricks - they'd probably all get prison sentances, and there'd probably be a frenzy of suicide bombings across the UK as members of the "religion of peace" let their feeling be known.

Immigrants simply must adopt British values if they want to live here. We hav been too tolerant, and allowed intolerant cultures to flushish here.
Peter,

You know the answer to that - how many times do you keep asking it??

I have posted before, specifically to you, about why I think immigration is the way it is in this country and why it has come to this, but you seemed to have missed that post?

Long and the short is that the fault is all your own.

1) Legislation has forced immigrants to stay here, instead of leaving to go 'home'.

2) Not enough white babies being born, famillies reducing in size.

3) Too many aspirations for the fewer white babies that are being born.

4) Too many white people on fake disability benefit.

Resolve these issues and you will have no problem, or you wouldn't have had a problem!

Now stop being a cheeky tw@t and instead of complaining about immigrants like me who are paying your grannys pension, deal with the real issues.

Grow up!

Asif
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
I feel sorry for the majority of peaceful Muslims in this country,but can the Muslim people here give an accurate view of the level of extremism in the community?people only have the biased views of the media to go on.
KOT,

Please see some of my other posts if you want. I have described having met and dealt with Muslims who have spouted extreme views and what I see as my responsibility in these sorts of matters.

Asif
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Stop trying to over intellectualise everything. Say what you want but John Irving does not represent anyone except himself - certainly not any kind of islamic community. While we're at it, pull your head out of your PC butt and realise one thing. I don't hate muslims I simply recognise the reality that they hate *us* and are clearly willing to do everything they can to destroy our way of life, whilst at the same time acting as parasites on our fast dwindling good will – there's your 'dichotomy'. Unfortunately they will never 'be gone' as you put it. Far from it, thanks to our weak minded government and lack of any form of immigration controls and disasterous foreign policies the radicals are on the rise in the UK and feeling confident as slogans on the posters explain.
Stop posting sh!te!
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Nice try, but poor response. I understand you reject the premise that any muslim could ever be considered as anything less than perfect, but surely tarnishing anyone who disagrees with that assumption as
the right wing lunatics on here, but they are incapable of answering a sensible question, of any type.
is in itself disingenuous?


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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Stop posting sh!te!
Point made...

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Unfortunately you can only go back to the last 100 posts.Remember with the right propaganda people will believe anything (the crusades).but how often do you get to hear an opinion from a moderate Asian as I assume you are, sorry if that sounds condescending.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck



Nice try, but poor response. I understand you reject the premise that any muslim could ever be considered as anything less than perfect, but surely tarnishing anyone who disagrees with that assumption as is in itself disingenuous?

Stop talking sh!te!

Why not answer a simple question put to you in a reasonable manner!!??

I never said I or anyone else I know was perfect, did I?

You are the most disingenuous person on here, but usually using one of your other usernames.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Point made...

I dont pretend to be what I am not UB, you should try it.
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Look I found UncleBucks sons website. Father like son eh?

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