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Old 08 June 2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chiark
Folks, could I please point you at the FAQ and moderation guidelines?
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/faq.php?f...n#faq_swearing

Keep it civil, please, including the asterisks etc?
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Old 08 June 2006, 04:23 PM
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I accept the posts saying I should drive round every corner expecting something waiting. I feel its also important to mention that the cars to my left were not slowing down or queing they were travelling below the national speed limit as they had just joined the road and would be turning off soon. If I see other cars slowing down or driving with caution for any reason then i always follow suit with the reason that there must be something ahead. In this case none of the cars slowed down or showed any reaction to the cones, in my opinion it was because none of them saw the cones either til they got round the corner. I was doing round 65-70 and there was 4 cars to my left, 2 behind, 1 along side and one immediately in front(in left lane). There was no vehicle visible ahead, not because visibilty is poor but because there was no car on the road as there must have been a large gap in traffic. I thinks its important to mention that this is a dual carriageway and visibilty round the corner above the barriers was fine, but the cones are much shorter than the barrier and as said not reflective. I have been driving down that road for years and have never seen any padestrains, kids playing on bikes etc.

But will go around with more caution in future. I accept that it may be partly my fault but that doesn't excuse the poor coning and lack of signage. If what he did was more than adequate then why do proper police even bother doing things more thoroughly and why does the highways agency warn of raodworks on motorways etc, surely they could save themselves a fortune and just place cones and nothing else.

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Old 08 June 2006, 04:55 PM
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To late defending yourself now, Your a maniac on the road, a danger to us all. Stop driving now before you kill yourself or others.

Oh yes, and next time, it might just be a child playing in the middle of the road.



SLOW DOWN YOU MANIAC !!

Old 08 June 2006, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugatti
I accept the posts saying I should drive round every corner expecting something waiting. I feel its also important to mention that the cars to my left were not slowing down or queing they were travelling below the national speed limit as they had just joined the road and would be turning off soon. If I see other cars slowing down or driving with caution for any reason then i always follow suit with the reason that there must be something ahead. In this case none of the cars slowed down or showed any reaction to the cones, in my opinion it was because none of them saw the cones either til they got round the corner. I was doing round 65-70 and there was 4 cars to my left, 2 behind, 1 along side and one immediately in front(in left lane). There was no vehicle visible ahead, not because visibilty is poor but because there was no car on the road as there must have been a large gap in traffic. I thinks its important to mention that this is a dual carriageway and visibilty round the corner above the barriers was fine, but the cones are much shorter than the barrier and as said not reflective. I have been driving down that road for years and have never seen any padestrains, kids playing on bikes etc.

But will go around with more caution in future. I accept that it may be partly my fault but that doesn't excuse the poor coning and lack of signage. If what he did was more than adequate then why do proper police even bother doing things more thoroughly and why does the highways agency warn of raodworks on motorways etc, surely they could save themselves a fortune and just place cones and nothing else.

Naz.
The main thing is the damage was light and no one was hurt, which is always a big
Old 08 June 2006, 05:46 PM
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well shouldnt matter how fast he was going if there wasn't a warning stating an obstruction or lane blocked then it isnt right.

mybe he was going to fast but who here hasn't? maybe most of us wouldn't of posted about it
Old 08 June 2006, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_wrx
well shouldnt matter how fast he was going if there wasn't a warning stating an obstruction or lane blocked then it isnt right.

mybe he was going to fast but who here hasn't? maybe most of us wouldn't of posted about it
You wouldn't let it lie
Old 08 June 2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
To late defending yourself now, Your a maniac on the road, a danger to us all. Stop driving now before you kill yourself or others.

Oh yes, and next time, it might just be a child playing in the middle of the road.



SLOW DOWN YOU MANIAC !!

And while we're at it, lets all sell the scoobs that we love to drive, because as soon as anything happens, it must be the scoob drivers fault. I say b****x! You have never seen the guy drive, have probably never driven the road in question, and are totally talking out of your ****. Why do we own scoobs? The cheap insurance? The fuel bill? or the fun? Even slowing to 50 on a dual carriageway fastlane could cause problems for people behind.
And
Why would a child be playing in the fast lane of a dual carriageway on a blind bend in the dark? And surely, the parents would need the verbal kicking, not the driver who failed to expect it. And just a quick note... Your grammar is ****e too!
Old 08 June 2006, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweepickit
And while we're at it, lets all sell the scoobs that we love to drive, because as soon as anything happens, it must be the scoob drivers fault. I say b****x! You have never seen the guy drive, have probably never driven the road in question, and are totally talking out of your ****. Why do we own scoobs? The cheap insurance? The fuel bill? or the fun? Even slowing to 50 on a dual carriageway fastlane could cause problems for people behind.
And
Why would a child be playing in the fast lane of a dual carriageway on a blind bend in the dark? And surely, the parents would need the verbal kicking, not the driver who failed to expect it. And just a quick note... Your grammar is ****e too!
You've made my eyes go funny.
Old 08 June 2006, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LiamWR1(2)
You wouldn't let it lie
haha indeed lesson learned........ always read all the posts before replying
Old 08 June 2006, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
If we all took each corner as fast as we could possibly see, or assumed a Horse, cones, Elephant etc, etc was going to be in the middle of the road, then there would be far more accidents than ever, as people would slam on the brakes to take every corner at 20mph JUST IN CASE !!!!!!! So the next car that goes around the corner slams into the car doing 20mph, as that driver should have done 20mph JUST IN CASE another car was doing the same.
You should always expect the unexpected. At least that's what a traffic officer told me they were taught.
You/noone needs to slam the brakes on, just approach the bend at a sensible speed in the first place.
There's a big difference in how fast you know you can drive round a bend and how fast you can stop if you suddenly find the road blocked.
Old 09 June 2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
You've made my eyes go funny.


you need these!!
Old 09 June 2006, 04:06 PM
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Just to clarify, PCSO's earn nearly as much as police officers however their training is at times woefully inadequate.

Special constables work for free and alongside regular officers and generally know their stuff as well as them.

And I don't think you've got much chance of them paying for the damage either!

Simon

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Old 09 June 2006, 09:34 PM
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This might help you
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521621
Old 09 June 2006, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by STi_Si
Just to clarify, PCSO's earn nearly as much as police officers however their training is at times woefully inadequate.

Special constables work for free and alongside regular officers and generally know their stuff as well as them.

And I don't think you've got much chance of them paying for the damage either!

Simon
Exactly...I find it worrying that so many people think PCSO's work for free...Blunketts bobbies basically provide "High Visibility Reassurance" at huge cost and with few powers or training compared to Police officers

For some really odd reason it is supposed to save money.

Imagine taking your car in for a service and being told. "No mate the mechanics are busy.The receptionist is paid nearly as much as the mechanic so he/she will do it for you instead, they haven't got a clue what they're supposed to do so it won't take long"
Old 09 June 2006, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CLSII
Exactly...I find it worrying that so many people think PCSO's work for free...Blunketts bobbies basically provide "High Visibility Reassurance" at huge cost and with few powers or training compared to Police officers

For some really odd reason it is supposed to save money.

Imagine taking your car in for a service and being told. "No mate the mechanics are busy.The receptionist is paid nearly as much as the mechanic so he/she will do it for you instead, they haven't got a clue what they're supposed to do so it won't take long"
That is what really wound me up the other night, the fact that CSO's are being used as substitute for police officers without the appropriate training and obviously inadequate equipment. I think it will take for a major incident to take place before this matter will come into major public discussion and something is done about it.
Old 10 June 2006, 12:47 AM
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Why loose off brakes and re-apply? ABS not working?
Old 10 June 2006, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BedHog
Why loose off brakes and re-apply? ABS not working?
Next time you're on an empty motorway or dual carriageway try braking hard on a bend from 70mph, even technology like ABS can't alter the physics in this world.
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