HURRAH zarqawi is dead
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Originally Posted by jonc
I'm just in awe of the American military machine, the famous cross hair camera shot of the target detailing the accuracy and precision of the weapons used…..as it destroyed several blocks of the neighbourhood.....
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
I see Blair wasted no time in turning up to take the credit.
Sad really.
Sad really.
Something he, I suspect, would never condone in the UK.
Harold Shipman, Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, Fred and Rose West, Ian Huntley, the list goes on.
If I, in this country, beheaded a number of people I would not receive a death sentence. I would have numerous lawyers and professionals attempting to explain my actions.
Is Blair therefore a hypocrite?
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Originally Posted by Vegescoob
Is Blair therefore a hypocrite?
Good point BTW Prepare for the first UK muslim beheadings where those responsible are freed from prison on 'human rights' grounds.
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Originally Posted by MJW
Well no I don't think it is really - I can understand why some Muslims are anti-West, what with the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq for flimsy reasons.
I just wish that rather than the Iraq debacle, we had maintained a proper military presence in Afghanistan and sorted out its problems once and for all. It would have done the US/UK a lot of good in the eyes of other moderate muslim countries I think, instead of the harm Iraq has done.
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I think the fact that any thread that mentions muslims ends up with this discussion, shows the level of hatred for them. It may not be PC to say so, but these idiots are ******* up the world for the rest of us. Unfortunately innocent muslims get tarred with the same brush, but that's not my fault, I'm suspicious of any muslim I see, maybe that's wrong but if you go about blowing up trains and flying planes into skyscrapers, you're gonna give your religion a bit of a reputation.
It might help if this 99.9999% of good muslims condemned this behaviour, but alot of them don't.
It might help if this 99.9999% of good muslims condemned this behaviour, but alot of them don't.
Mr Bin Lid was "created" (paid for, funded, whatever you want to call it) by the US and its allies during the cold war back in the 70's to p*ss off the Russians in, wait for it, Afghanistan *gasp*. Mr Lid set up the mujahadeen back then as a resistance group to do the dirty work for the US in return for $$$. Iraq p*ssed off the world by invading Kuwait back in 1990 which really was a silly thing to do but the US/Allies probably worked that one out in their favour as an excuse to use up all its aging stockpiles of bombs & DU rounds (depleted uranium) that were close to their kill/use by date.
Sooooo, US/Allies stick their flag up in Kuwait, and p*ss Bin Lid off. Bin Lid claims its to do with the US/Allies camping out in the mother land but I think he's just lost the plot. He's lost all his assets in Saudi ($250m+), been stripped of his titles (problems with saudi monarchy) and is probably thinking, screw this, Im going to bite the hand that fed me as I've nothing else to lose. So he decides to cause problems in Afganistan where if you remember the US/Allies paid for him to camp out. Ohh the irony, now the US/Allies have to sort out another fine mess, the old war machine rolls out and everyone is happy (read as, war = win for economy).
I could go on and on about this and bring it right up to date adding in Al-Queers, but honestly I cant be arsed. I hope you've got the point here, the current situation with Bin Lid, Al-Queers and the rest of them has allllllll been caused by the US/Allies, and now its coming back to haunt them. Needless to say, religion doesnt cause war any more, money/oil/power does.
Jules
PS. I'm not anti-american, anti-uk, anti-war, anti-xyz race, I just hate politicians & corrupt government and I pray to whatever God you choose that they'd just sort it the f*ck out.
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Sad in a way, as deep down he was probably a real nice bloke. He may have suffered as a child or been molested in some way.
Had he turned up here he could have had asylum.
Had he turned up here he could have had asylum.
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Originally Posted by lordretsudo
Surprised no-one else has picked up on this typically inane comment. Iraq maybe, but Afghanistan?! So you wouldn't consider the 9/11 attacks, not to mention various other al-qaeda attacks around the world, fair grounds for invading Afghanistan and removing the Taliban? You are presumably aware that the Taliban were shielding/sponsoring Bin Laden and al-Qaeda at the time of these attacks? Never mind that fact that they were completely nuts, wanted to take the world back to the stone age and were generally completely deserving of what happened to them.
I just wish that rather than the Iraq debacle, we had maintained a proper military presence in Afghanistan and sorted out its problems once and for all. It would have done the US/UK a lot of good in the eyes of other moderate muslim countries I think, instead of the harm Iraq has done.
I just wish that rather than the Iraq debacle, we had maintained a proper military presence in Afghanistan and sorted out its problems once and for all. It would have done the US/UK a lot of good in the eyes of other moderate muslim countries I think, instead of the harm Iraq has done.
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The Americans have a habit of creating monsters that haunt the world.
After Mussolini had effectively got rid of the Mafia during the 20s & 30s, they were re-instated by the US after Italy's liberation to help keep law and order.
They have continually backed Israel no matter what they do, alienating much of the middle east in the process.
As previously stated, Bin Liner was shored up by the US in the 80s.
Hussein was their love child when he was fighting Iran in the 80s.
The US is to blame for alot of the troubles in the world, and people wonder why terrorist fly planes in to them and cut off their citizens heads??!?!?!?
I don't condone the actions of Al Qaeda, but it's easy to see why we are in this state. It's simply a war between various factions and the US, just not a traditional war where battles between large armies are fought. The 'innocents' are fair game, don't forget the allied carpet bombing of Germany in 1945. They were already defeated, but we killed the population in their thousands to teach them that they would pay a terrible price if they ever did it again. This is not conjecture either, this has been admitted in records released about war policy and diaries of Bomber Harris.
Al Qaeda is simply doing the same thing, it's telling us to force our leaders to stop, or we pay a price. Unpleasant, but there it is.
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After Mussolini had effectively got rid of the Mafia during the 20s & 30s, they were re-instated by the US after Italy's liberation to help keep law and order.
They have continually backed Israel no matter what they do, alienating much of the middle east in the process.
As previously stated, Bin Liner was shored up by the US in the 80s.
Hussein was their love child when he was fighting Iran in the 80s.
The US is to blame for alot of the troubles in the world, and people wonder why terrorist fly planes in to them and cut off their citizens heads??!?!?!?
I don't condone the actions of Al Qaeda, but it's easy to see why we are in this state. It's simply a war between various factions and the US, just not a traditional war where battles between large armies are fought. The 'innocents' are fair game, don't forget the allied carpet bombing of Germany in 1945. They were already defeated, but we killed the population in their thousands to teach them that they would pay a terrible price if they ever did it again. This is not conjecture either, this has been admitted in records released about war policy and diaries of Bomber Harris.
Al Qaeda is simply doing the same thing, it's telling us to force our leaders to stop, or we pay a price. Unpleasant, but there it is.
Geezer
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Typical of western media and government propaganda, an Islamic fundamentalist blows up a building, all of Islam gets tarred as terrorists. A Christian blows up a building and that terrorists belongs to a "cult", either that or religion is not even mentioned, eg Waco, Oklahoma bombing.
Is the world a safer and more stable place since the war? IMO a big NO. Bush and Blair were hoping to go in, remove Sadam, secure the oil pipeline and then move out (very generalistic I know), but things have spiralled out of control. What they didn't expect is the current situation the countries are now in and finding it increasingly difficult to pull their forces out. The installation of a new government has not as "smoothly" as in Afganistan. Its been over 3 years since bush declared "mission accomplished!" and officially ended "major military operation" in Iraq.
Is the world a safer and more stable place since the war? IMO a big NO. Bush and Blair were hoping to go in, remove Sadam, secure the oil pipeline and then move out (very generalistic I know), but things have spiralled out of control. What they didn't expect is the current situation the countries are now in and finding it increasingly difficult to pull their forces out. The installation of a new government has not as "smoothly" as in Afganistan. Its been over 3 years since bush declared "mission accomplished!" and officially ended "major military operation" in Iraq.
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Originally Posted by shustir
They are condemened by the vast majority of muslims, media just doesn't seem to report that bit very well.
What non-Muslims find hard to understand is why Muslims will protest in their thousands because of something like a cartoon but not when thousands of innocent people are murdered in the name of Islam....??
seem to have their priorities all back to front
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They've all been going on about it at work today and were all and then at the second bomb.
for two 500lb bombs he cleaned up rather well by all accounts :
Looked like he'd been in a fight
Nothing on google video
Andy
for two 500lb bombs he cleaned up rather well by all accounts :
Looked like he'd been in a fight
Nothing on google video
Andy
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I congratulate both Einstein and judgejules for their posts which are what I reckon to be an accurate description of the facts.
Of course Billy will take the credit, he is hanging on by his fingertips anyway!
Les
Of course Billy will take the credit, he is hanging on by his fingertips anyway!
Les
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Who cares about all th Islam chit chat...
Where's the dam video.
Andy
Where's the dam video.
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