C'mon England !
09 June 2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
Well,
the world cup starts today and so far there isn't a thread backing our boys on this forum. Stop talking about your cars for a bit and let's hear what you have to say....
Why is Walcott on his way to Germany and Defoe on his way home ?
Will Gerrards back hold up ?
Will Rooney play any part in Englands campaign ?
who do you think will win the World Cup ?
the world cup starts today and so far there isn't a thread backing our boys on this forum. Stop talking about your cars for a bit and let's hear what you have to say....
Why is Walcott on his way to Germany and Defoe on his way home ?
Will Gerrards back hold up ?
Will Rooney play any part in Englands campaign ?
who do you think will win the World Cup ?
Just watched Germany and Ecuador defeat their oponnents, only because it was on in the pub.
09 June 2006, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
Well,
the world cup starts today and so far there isn't a thread backing our boys on this forum. Stop talking about your cars for a bit and let's hear what you have to say....
the world cup starts today and so far there isn't a thread backing our boys on this forum. Stop talking about your cars for a bit and let's hear what you have to say....
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09 June 2006, 11:28 PM
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COME ON PARAGUAY but no doubt if england lose they will smash the place up like they always do. The problem is england think there team is great when really it is ****e. Then when they lose they come up with hundreds of excuses i wonder how long it will tAke before they blame rooney being injured
09 June 2006, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 95blackWRX
COME ON PARAGUAY but no doubt if england lose they will smash the place up like they always do. The problem is england think there team is great when really it is ****e. Then when they lose they come up with hundreds of excuses i wonder how long it will tAke before they blame rooney being injured
10 June 2006, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
lmao, nice to hear from someone has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Si.
£25 @ 20/1 for an ENGERLAND tournament win.
10 June 2006, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 95blackWRX
COME ON PARAGUAY but no doubt if england lose they will smash the place up like they always do. The problem is england think there team is great when really it is ****e. Then when they lose they come up with hundreds of excuses i wonder how long it will tAke before they blame rooney being injured
Here we have a tw@t, who patently know nothing about football, giving us the benefit of his "experience".
10 June 2006, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 95blackWRX
COME ON PARAGUAY but no doubt if england lose they will smash the place up like they always do. The problem is england think there team is great when really it is ****e. Then when they lose they come up with hundreds of excuses i wonder how long it will tAke before they blame rooney being injured
lol, tit.
thats why england are second favourites behind brazil, coz they are ****e
FFS
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10 June 2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
This is a perfect example of the internet posting moron.
Here we have a tw@t, who patently know nothing about football, giving us the benefit of his "experience".
Here we have a tw@t, who patently know nothing about football, giving us the benefit of his "experience".
As for being 2nd favourites, I honestly don't know why the bookies think that. There isn't really anything special about the team. Overpaid primadonnas who can't deliver the goods for their national team.
11 June 2006, 09:19 AM
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Lets not turn this into an England \/ Scotland thread, we're talking about the World cup so there's no point even mentioning the scots.
I think we need to play a damn site better, we only won through an own goal but we will have to do very badly against T&T and Sweden not to qualify for the later stages now.
I think we need to play a damn site better, we only won through an own goal but we will have to do very badly against T&T and Sweden not to qualify for the later stages now.
11 June 2006, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
Lets not turn this into an England \/ Scotland thread, we're talking about the World cup so there's no point even mentioning the scots.
I think we need to play a damn site better, we only won through an own goal but we will have to do very badly against T&T and Sweden not to qualify for the later stages now.
I think we need to play a damn site better, we only won through an own goal but we will have to do very badly against T&T and Sweden not to qualify for the later stages now.
Have to say after watching the performances of Argentina/Ivory Coast and even Sweden/T&T, the English and Paraguayans looked very amateurish.
11 June 2006, 11:09 AM
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Q. What do you call a Scotsman in the 2nd round of the World Cup?
A. Ref!
Don't worry about England, it was 30 degrees there yesterday, we don't have any more games in the early afternoon, so we'll be fine. Rooney looks ready to come back, we only need to beat T&T to qualify, and I think they had a one off game against Sweden, once they let in one goal I think they'll crumble.
A. Ref!
Don't worry about England, it was 30 degrees there yesterday, we don't have any more games in the early afternoon, so we'll be fine. Rooney looks ready to come back, we only need to beat T&T to qualify, and I think they had a one off game against Sweden, once they let in one goal I think they'll crumble.
11 June 2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
But sadly he is 100% right.
As for being 2nd favourites, I honestly don't know why the bookies think that. There isn't really anything special about the team. Overpaid primadonnas who can't deliver the goods for their national team.
As for being 2nd favourites, I honestly don't know why the bookies think that. There isn't really anything special about the team. Overpaid primadonnas who can't deliver the goods for their national team.
do you follow football?
if so (which i doubt) are you telling everybody on here that you would have no England player in your club team?
if so my old bean,you are a tool of the highest order
and as for being 2nd favourites, you have no idea about bookmaking.
bookies have to offset there possible losses by offering short odds on the most backed teams/horses /whatever, and longer odds on the least backed teams/horses/whatever. hence England 6-1 mexico 33-1. in reallity there is no way the 2 teams are that far apart. this reflects the general betting publics opinions, which are backed up by hard cash.
edited to say: CMON ENGLAND!!!!!!!!
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11 June 2006, 12:56 PM
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Well I hope they play a lot better in the other matches. We played pretty badly, with a few exceptions. Paraguay played dirty though and the ref was a waste of space.
Flame me all you want, we need to play better than this.
Flame me all you want, we need to play better than this.
11 June 2006, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pauly
do you follow football?
if so (which i doubt) are you telling everybody on here that you would have no England player in your club team?
if so my old bean,you are a tool of the highest order
and as for being 2nd favourites, you have no idea about bookmaking.
bookies have to offset there possible losses by offering short odds on the most backed teams/horses /whatever, and longer odds on the least backed teams/horses/whatever. hence England 6-1 mexico 33-1. in reallity there is no way the 2 teams are that far apart. this reflects the general betting publics opinions, which are backed up by hard cash.
edited to say: CMON ENGLAND!!!!!!!!
No, I don't really understand how bookies work, but from your explanation it has become clearer, as England is clearly over-rated by the general public in England.
I would say the current FIFA rankings are more realistic.
1 Brazil
2 Czech Republic
3 The Netherlands
4 Mexico
5 USA
5 Spain
7 Portugal
8 France
9 Argentina
10 England
11 June 2006, 07:16 PM
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GK - Kahn or Dida
DEF - Carlos, Lucio, Cafu, Campbell
MID - Figo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Vieira or Beckham
FOR - Henry, Ibrahimovic
And I say struggling because you could easily replace Beckham or Campbell, but as for the other players I've listed I don't believe there are any English players as good.
DEF - Carlos, Lucio, Cafu, Campbell
MID - Figo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Vieira or Beckham
FOR - Henry, Ibrahimovic
And I say struggling because you could easily replace Beckham or Campbell, but as for the other players I've listed I don't believe there are any English players as good.
11 June 2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
I would say the current FIFA rankings are more realistic.
1 Brazil
2 Czech Republic
3 The Netherlands
4 Mexico
5 USA
5 Spain
7 Portugal
8 France
9 Argentina
10 England
1 Brazil
2 Czech Republic
3 The Netherlands
4 Mexico
5 USA
5 Spain
7 Portugal
8 France
9 Argentina
10 England
The rest are pretty much what I would expect ....
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11 June 2006, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
GK - Kahn or Dida
DEF - Carlos, Lucio, Cafu, Campbell
MID - Figo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Vieira or Beckham
FOR - Henry, Ibrahimovic
And I say struggling because you could easily replace Beckham or Campbell, but as for the other players I've listed I don't believe there are any English players as good.
DEF - Carlos, Lucio, Cafu, Campbell
MID - Figo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Vieira or Beckham
FOR - Henry, Ibrahimovic
And I say struggling because you could easily replace Beckham or Campbell, but as for the other players I've listed I don't believe there are any English players as good.
or an old past it fekker.
you should put your name in the hat for the real madrid job.
mine would be
buffon or casillas
terry, ashley cole, marquez, nesta
gerrard, messi, kaka
rooney or henry, torres, ronaldinho,
11 June 2006, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have just seen Mexico play and they are NOT as good as England .... the USA certainly shouldn't be anywhere near the top 10!!
The rest are pretty much what I would expect ....
Pete
The rest are pretty much what I would expect ....
Pete
someone shoot me please its my time..... i've just agreed with pslewis
11 June 2006, 08:04 PM
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Being a football fan and having watched the game yesterday from a footballing point of view (not an England one! being a Scot
) I thought that Ericsson made some huge mistakes in the substitutions in particular taking Owen off.
England were well ontop in the First-Half but the sub of Owen could have cost them dearly. Although they wasted numerous chances to go further ahead IMHO.
I dont even remember Motson mentioning 1966 FFS
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) I thought that Ericsson made some huge mistakes in the substitutions in particular taking Owen off.England were well ontop in the First-Half but the sub of Owen could have cost them dearly. Although they wasted numerous chances to go further ahead IMHO.
I dont even remember Motson mentioning 1966 FFS
Gus
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11 June 2006, 08:56 PM
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Owen played terrible, i sometimes had to search for him to make sure he was playing. Crouch was offside so may times he may as well have played in goal for Paraguay.
11 June 2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
Owen played terrible, i sometimes had to search for him to make sure he was playing. Crouch was offside so may times he may as well have played in goal for Paraguay.
Gus
11 June 2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pauly
do you follow football?
if so (which i doubt) are you telling everybody on here that you would have no England player in your club team?
if so my old bean,you are a tool of the highest order
and as for being 2nd favourites, you have no idea about bookmaking.
bookies have to offset there possible losses by offering short odds on the most backed teams/horses /whatever, and longer odds on the least backed teams/horses/whatever. hence England 6-1 mexico 33-1. in reallity there is no way the 2 teams are that far apart. this reflects the general betting publics opinions, which are backed up by hard cash.
edited to say: CMON ENGLAND!!!!!!!!
12 June 2006, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Maul
before the start we were 2nd favourite on betfair which is an global internet site with bo bookies behind it.
have you never heard of laying a bet.
bookmakers use betfair loads, especially when they have large liabilities and need to limit possible losses.
one of my mates runs the local bookies and uses it when he thinks he's gonna get a big kicking. i'm not sure of the legallity of it but to suggest bookies don't use it is naive
p.s my spelling is, has always and always will be shocking
12 June 2006, 09:13 PM
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Can we return to the football on this thread please
all this P*sh is getting us nowhere.
Dont lower yourselves to factual and childish inacuracies back to the football
all this P*sh is getting us nowhere.Dont lower yourselves to factual and childish inacuracies
back to the football
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13 June 2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gus the Bus
Yip, Owen wasn't great but what I should have said and meant was not replacing a like with like position. Leaving Crouch up front on his own totally changed play and favoured Paraguay's style of play. I think Crouch needs to learn to sit tighter into an "onside" position or learn to run
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Gus
with the possible exception of Ferdinand
The problem lies with having a tactically inept, & unadventurous manager
Why the **** did he take Walcott if he wasn't going to use him, Saturday would have been an ideal opportunity to give him a run out for 30 minutes, and at least give Crouch someone to knock the ball on too