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As Shustir says
"What would happen if the dogs got into the garden when the little on was their ! How would they feel about that, "
They probably wouldn't give a toss.
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"What would happen if the dogs got into the garden when the little on was their ! How would they feel about that, "
They probably wouldn't give a toss.
Yve
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Not sure if I'm missing something here ???
Neighbours dogs have eaten their way through the fence.
Neighbours dogs can get into your garden.
Neighbours wont do anything about fixing the fence.
FIX IT YOURSELF !!! - you may not want the expense, but you know the neighbours cant be bothered fixing the fence, so would you rather their dogs come through in a frenzy while your daughter is playing out the back ?
If I was in your position the first thing I'd do is make sure my own garden is completely secure, and their dogs cant get in - a metal fence with metal posts hammered a good way into the ground every few feet will stop them.
While any decent neighbours would realise they should sort out the fence, yours obviously arent decent, so you cant just sit back and hope someone else will sort it out for you - get off your backside and do it yourself.
Neighbours dogs have eaten their way through the fence.
Neighbours dogs can get into your garden.
Neighbours wont do anything about fixing the fence.
FIX IT YOURSELF !!! - you may not want the expense, but you know the neighbours cant be bothered fixing the fence, so would you rather their dogs come through in a frenzy while your daughter is playing out the back ?
If I was in your position the first thing I'd do is make sure my own garden is completely secure, and their dogs cant get in - a metal fence with metal posts hammered a good way into the ground every few feet will stop them.
While any decent neighbours would realise they should sort out the fence, yours obviously arent decent, so you cant just sit back and hope someone else will sort it out for you - get off your backside and do it yourself.
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I had a bit of a do with my neighbours over my dogs, over a fence panel that my dogs had knocked down
My neighbour replaced the fence, as the main reason that particular piece of fence came down, was because they have a tree fixed to it to keep the tree up
They have made it more secure now by putting a beam of wood across between the concrete posts
Squaresy I would do as others have suggested on here, and fix / repair / block access to that part of the garden, **** your neighbours as it sounds like they dont give a toss, and then report them for failing to keep their dogs under control
Steve
My neighbour replaced the fence, as the main reason that particular piece of fence came down, was because they have a tree fixed to it to keep the tree up
They have made it more secure now by putting a beam of wood across between the concrete posts
Squaresy I would do as others have suggested on here, and fix / repair / block access to that part of the garden, **** your neighbours as it sounds like they dont give a toss, and then report them for failing to keep their dogs under control
Steve
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Originally Posted by Apparition
As Shustir says
"What would happen if the dogs got into the garden when the little on was their ! How would they feel about that, "
They probably wouldn't give a toss.
Yve
"What would happen if the dogs got into the garden when the little on was their ! How would they feel about that, "
They probably wouldn't give a toss.
Yve
If they attack your daughter on your land, they'd argue that the dogs were only playing.
And what would the Police do about it?? Probably take there side. Crimanal get treated with more respect that the Victims
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Originally Posted by stilover
I was only joking saying that about getting a Razorback. They are quite scary dogs though. They do look like a Horse, and would have no problem sorting out a Staffy & Rotty. It runs behind my cousins car at over 30mph (on private tracks) and it never looks like it's even trying. They can be VERY unpredictable though. Another dog so much as even growls at him, and he attacks (luckily he is always muzzled) and usually on a lead.
I won't let my staffy anywhere near him.
Although I said he is unpredictable, he is well trained and obeys my cousin rigidly. He is soft around my cousins family. A very good guard dog.I'd hate to be the burglar who breaks into my cousins house. I pity the fool !!!!!
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I would agree with other comments above though. Get the fence sorted out yourself. Saves any harm coming to your daughter and dog
I won't let my staffy anywhere near him.
Although I said he is unpredictable, he is well trained and obeys my cousin rigidly. He is soft around my cousins family. A very good guard dog.I'd hate to be the burglar who breaks into my cousins house. I pity the fool !!!!!
Sara.
I would agree with other comments above though. Get the fence sorted out yourself. Saves any harm coming to your daughter and dog
Presumably, the rug rat isn't a bitch that's in season because if that's the case I can see why the neoghbour's dogs are trying to get in.
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Originally Posted by MikeCardiff
Not sure if I'm missing something here ???
Neighbours dogs have eaten their way through the fence.
Neighbours dogs can get into your garden.
Neighbours wont do anything about fixing the fence.
FIX IT YOURSELF !!! - you may not want the expense, but you know the neighbours cant be bothered fixing the fence, so would you rather their dogs come through in a frenzy while your daughter is playing out the back ?
If I was in your position the first thing I'd do is make sure my own garden is completely secure, and their dogs cant get in - a metal fence with metal posts hammered a good way into the ground every few feet will stop them.
While any decent neighbours would realise they should sort out the fence, yours obviously arent decent, so you cant just sit back and hope someone else will sort it out for you - get off your backside and do it yourself.
Neighbours dogs have eaten their way through the fence.
Neighbours dogs can get into your garden.
Neighbours wont do anything about fixing the fence.
FIX IT YOURSELF !!! - you may not want the expense, but you know the neighbours cant be bothered fixing the fence, so would you rather their dogs come through in a frenzy while your daughter is playing out the back ?
If I was in your position the first thing I'd do is make sure my own garden is completely secure, and their dogs cant get in - a metal fence with metal posts hammered a good way into the ground every few feet will stop them.
While any decent neighbours would realise they should sort out the fence, yours obviously arent decent, so you cant just sit back and hope someone else will sort it out for you - get off your backside and do it yourself.
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There must be some way of securing the garden though ? Even though its not fair you have to do it, the neighbours obviously dont want to take responsibility themselves, so I cant really see any other option.
Getting the dog wardens etc... involved is going to cause a lot of bad feelings with the neighbours, and could lead to loads more trouble.
I think with dodgy neighbours avoidance is usually best, make it so what they are doing cant effect you, then you can just ignore them.
Getting the dog wardens etc... involved is going to cause a lot of bad feelings with the neighbours, and could lead to loads more trouble.
I think with dodgy neighbours avoidance is usually best, make it so what they are doing cant effect you, then you can just ignore them.
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Must be quite worrying.
As said before its a case of you looking after your own so put a metal link or wire fence up then you know your daughter and dog are secure.
As for the neighbours you can hire out the Big Red here for a small fee![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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The small fee might be your chihuaha(sp) though![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
As said before its a case of you looking after your own so put a metal link or wire fence up then you know your daughter and dog are secure.
As for the neighbours you can hire out the Big Red here for a small fee
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The small fee might be your chihuaha(sp) though
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i am going to stick to my original idea of calling the dog warden and handing the dogs to them. not sure what they charge to return a dog but its not cheap![Thumb](images/smilies/thumb.gif)
in the meantime i will only let my lot in the garden when i am there. my dog cant get into theirs as the rest of the fence is secure. i have put some old wood and stuff where they come through but i have a feeling it wont be enough.
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in the meantime i will only let my lot in the garden when i am there. my dog cant get into theirs as the rest of the fence is secure. i have put some old wood and stuff where they come through but i have a feeling it wont be enough.
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Originally Posted by wrxtankie
Rhodesian Ridge back??
I'm sure he said Australian though.................. I might be wrong on that too !
Googled it, and your right ...... Rhodesian Ridge Back
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i am going to stick to my original idea of calling the dog warden and handing the dogs to them. not sure what they charge to return a dog but its not cheap![Thumb](images/smilies/thumb.gif)
in the meantime i will only let my lot in the garden when i am there. my dog cant get into theirs as the rest of the fence is secure. i have put some old wood and stuff where they come through but i have a feeling it wont be enough.
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in the meantime i will only let my lot in the garden when i am there. my dog cant get into theirs as the rest of the fence is secure. i have put some old wood and stuff where they come through but i have a feeling it wont be enough.
If you give an inch some peole take a mile, your neighbours are probably no exception. They do not understand reasonable behaviour which is sad and selfish. The one's to suffer are your pet dog and daughter and their dogs. I think reporting them is the best option.
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Sarah,
a) Whats a "Rocky" (other than a deranged Robin or a chocolate biscuit) ?
b) This whole "English boundary issue" crap never ceases to amaze me.
If it is "their" fence, what is stopping you sticking up a fence of your own just on your side of the boundary between the properties?
A wire mesh fence will be easily put up, unable to be eaten by the dogs, relatively innexpensive and quite unobtrusive. As for the problem between the conservatories, if its innaccessable, just block it off between your side and your conservatory.
by the way, has this only happened recently? And are their dogs male?
If so, its probably your dog's impending season thats making them behave this way.
a) Whats a "Rocky" (other than a deranged Robin or a chocolate biscuit) ?
b) This whole "English boundary issue" crap never ceases to amaze me.
If it is "their" fence, what is stopping you sticking up a fence of your own just on your side of the boundary between the properties?
A wire mesh fence will be easily put up, unable to be eaten by the dogs, relatively innexpensive and quite unobtrusive. As for the problem between the conservatories, if its innaccessable, just block it off between your side and your conservatory.
by the way, has this only happened recently? And are their dogs male?
If so, its probably your dog's impending season thats making them behave this way.
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Originally Posted by stilover
Ridge Back, that's it, D'oh.
I'm sure he said Australian though.................. I might be wrong on that too !
Googled it, and your right ...... Rhodesian Ridge Back
I'm sure he said Australian though.................. I might be wrong on that too !
Googled it, and your right ...... Rhodesian Ridge Back
I've only had one that could be remotely bolshy and that was if another dog attacked him first, in which case he'd dispense a quick lesson in manners which other dogs usually understood. They are powerful dogs, so if your brother's is aggressive then he needs to sort it out pronto.
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i did wonder if my dog coming into season was one of the reasons but the staffy is female![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
a rocky is a rotweiler(sp), but i meant a rotty ![Stick Out Tongue](images/smilies/tongue.gif)
i cant put a fence up on my side as i have 4ft wide conifer trees and if i was able to put up a wire fence it wouldnt be any match for two dogs. it would have to be about 5-6 ft and that would mean cementing posts into my garden. there are a couple of places where they have got in, but they favour the concealed hole near the conservatory. if that was repaired they would just attack the fence further up.
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Sarah,
a) Whats a "Rocky" (other than a deranged Robin or a chocolate biscuit) ?
b) This whole "English boundary issue" crap never ceases to amaze me.
If it is "their" fence, what is stopping you sticking up a fence of your own just on your side of the boundary between the properties?
A wire mesh fence will be easily put up, unable to be eaten by the dogs, relatively innexpensive and quite unobtrusive. As for the problem between the conservatories, if its innaccessable, just block it off between your side and your conservatory.
a) Whats a "Rocky" (other than a deranged Robin or a chocolate biscuit) ?
b) This whole "English boundary issue" crap never ceases to amaze me.
If it is "their" fence, what is stopping you sticking up a fence of your own just on your side of the boundary between the properties?
A wire mesh fence will be easily put up, unable to be eaten by the dogs, relatively innexpensive and quite unobtrusive. As for the problem between the conservatories, if its innaccessable, just block it off between your side and your conservatory.
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i cant put a fence up on my side as i have 4ft wide conifer trees and if i was able to put up a wire fence it wouldnt be any match for two dogs. it would have to be about 5-6 ft and that would mean cementing posts into my garden. there are a couple of places where they have got in, but they favour the concealed hole near the conservatory. if that was repaired they would just attack the fence further up.
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Comes back to the same old question. Why do morons think it's big to own dangerous dogs that threaten the lives of others?
These Ego Cripples need psychological help in my opinion.
If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Comes back to the same old question. Why do morons think it's big to own dangerous dogs that threaten the lives of others?
These Ego Cripples need psychological help in my opinion.
If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Comes back to the same old question. Why do morons think it's big to own dangerous dogs that threaten the lives of others?
These Ego Cripples need psychological help in my opinion.
If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
what worries me is that those sort of dogs have the 'pack' instinct. if they are frustrated and locked in a hot garden all day.....................![Frown](images/smilies/frown.gif)
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They are simply not safe full stop. Why, when there is already so much danger from other sources our society should people such as you have to tolerate this kind of completely unnecessary intimidation from dumb animals? (Dogs not owners)
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Comes back to the same old question. Why do morons think it's big to own dangerous dogs that threaten the lives of others?
These Ego Cripples need psychological help in my opinion.
If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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If it were up to me I would have all these dangerous breeds of hound outlawed and put down. Problem solved for good.
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I know its difficult for you, but please try....
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
what worries me is that those sort of dogs have the 'pack' instinct. if they are frustrated and locked in a hot garden all day.....................![Frown](images/smilies/frown.gif)
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But getting back on track,
Sarah, can you not put up a wire mesh fence between the boundary and your conservatory edge? Or just over the damaged bit?
Ultimately, yes, you will need to do something about the neighbours wholly innapropriate attitude to dog ownership, butthat may take some time to sort out.
Oh, and all dogs have a pack instinct, not just "that sort". When your Chihuaha grows up, she may well be more likely to bite someone than either the Staffy or the Rottweiler.
Have you introduced your dog to the dogs next door? There's more chance if they are socialised that they will all get on than there is she'll be attacked. In fact, there's every chance if they get to meet that she will assume the dominant role.
I know this may seem hard to understand, and you would have to introduce them carefully, but just because she's the smallest doesn't mean she wouldn't be boss.
Sarah, can you not put up a wire mesh fence between the boundary and your conservatory edge? Or just over the damaged bit?
Ultimately, yes, you will need to do something about the neighbours wholly innapropriate attitude to dog ownership, butthat may take some time to sort out.
Oh, and all dogs have a pack instinct, not just "that sort". When your Chihuaha grows up, she may well be more likely to bite someone than either the Staffy or the Rottweiler.
Have you introduced your dog to the dogs next door? There's more chance if they are socialised that they will all get on than there is she'll be attacked. In fact, there's every chance if they get to meet that she will assume the dominant role.
I know this may seem hard to understand, and you would have to introduce them carefully, but just because she's the smallest doesn't mean she wouldn't be boss.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
They are simply not safe full stop. Why, when there is already so much danger from other sources our society should people such as you have to tolerate this kind of completely unnecessary intimidation from dumb animals? (Dogs not owners)
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Originally Posted by Apparition
Sara, To put a slightly different complexion on things. What would happen if either your daughter or your dog decided to squirm through that gap into next door's garden ? And with resulting consequences........
Were it my problem, I'd be swallowing my pride and putting my own defences up between the two properties to ensure the safety of my beloved. Sod the neighbours and their stubborness. They are obviously not worth a second thought. Your daughter and dog are, however.
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Were it my problem, I'd be swallowing my pride and putting my own defences up between the two properties to ensure the safety of my beloved. Sod the neighbours and their stubborness. They are obviously not worth a second thought. Your daughter and dog are, however.
Yve