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Old 28 June 2006, 09:59 AM
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Show your brother that your not a softarse and blow the car up!

That will show him you aint messing about and you want your doe!!!

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Old 28 June 2006, 10:49 AM
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Earth calling Mamoon ???
Old 28 June 2006, 11:48 AM
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Joke that Dave
Old 28 June 2006, 12:13 PM
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I think you are going to either have to kidnap the motor or forget about it, the fact that he knows your having your own problems yet rather than help chose to buy a pointless frivolous item suggests that he is very self centered, thats the kind of thing you buy when you have no other calls on your money and to be honest, even then its debateable.

I am so lucky with my lot, never have had anything like this and I am fairly certain I never will.
Old 28 June 2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I think you are going to either have to kidnap the motor or forget about it, the fact that he knows your having your own problems yet rather than help chose to buy a pointless frivolous item suggests that he is very self centered, thats the kind of thing you buy when you have no other calls on your money and to be honest, even then its debateable.

I am so lucky with my lot, never have had anything like this and I am fairly certain I never will.
This thread..

You say that you are £5,000 in debt, but is that what you loaned your brother or is that including interest, something else you're bought or paid out for since?

It seem's that you're parents aren't setting a good example for your brother in dismissing that fact that he STILL owes you the money.

I suggest that you all sit down in a room and discuss how this situation is to be sorted.........
Old 28 June 2006, 12:29 PM
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£5000 is what i loaned to him,interest free cash loan,in dec 04,he had promised to pay all by dec 05.We have all sat down and discussed it numerous times, but for the past year he keeps saying 'yeah yeah' and not giving me a proper answer-i've told my parents to kick him out of the house for what he has done but they couldn't give to55,especially my mum who can't understand why i'm in a mood these days!
Old 28 June 2006, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by middxsti
£5000 is what i loaned to him,interest free cash loan,in dec 04,he had promised to pay all by dec 05.We have all sat down and discussed it numerous times, but for the past year he keeps saying 'yeah yeah' and not giving me a proper answer-i've told my parents to kick him out of the house for what he has done but they couldn't give to55,especially my mum who can't understand why i'm in a mood these days!
You have told them the amount he owes you right?

This is almost unbelievable, you need to sort this out, take his car, break his arm, bitch slap him until he crys - whatever takes your fancy.

Oh, can you lend me some money please?
Old 28 June 2006, 05:58 PM
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Another vote for the log book, as any other ransoming of the car will be classed as theft. YOu'll be in trouble.

Log book is the way forward

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Old 28 June 2006, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
You have told them the amount he owes you right?

This is almost unbelievable, you need to sort this out, take his car, break his arm, bitch slap him until he crys - whatever takes your fancy.

Oh, can you lend me some money please?
gets my vote
Old 28 June 2006, 07:35 PM
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Whatever happened to blood being thicker than water? It seems the money you have loaned is the least of your worries, given the behaviour of your sibling and parents. It often takes such an event for the true nature of people to be revealed. The fact that you are still owed this money shows how little respect and esteem you are accorded in your house. Pack your bags move out and get on with the rest of your life.
Old 28 June 2006, 07:46 PM
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you know what einstein,that's exactly what i was thinking this morning-moving out.It's heartbreaking when you realise your close family,are 2 faced morons.
Old 28 June 2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by middxsti
you know what einstein,that's exactly what i was thinking this morning-moving out.It's heartbreaking when you realise your close family,are 2 faced morons.
Yes I know it's a bitter pill to swallow but at least you know where you stand. It is very hard to accept an injustice of this magnitude and I am not talking just about the money, but you are a better man if you rise above it. In time they will realise it's their loss.


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Old 28 June 2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Whatever happened to blood being thicker than water? It seems the money you have loaned is the least of your worries, given the behaviour of your sibling and parents. It often takes such an event for the true nature of people to be revealed. The fact that you are still owed this money shows how little respect and esteem you are accorded in your house. Pack your bags move out and get on with the rest of your life.
^^^ What he says, with the addition of a right good kicking for your brother before you go. It's no more than he deserves.
Old 28 June 2006, 08:17 PM
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Take the car and put in storage (lok n store etc) he will pay you the money, you will be amazed at how quick he will find the money when he realises your serious.
Old 28 June 2006, 08:46 PM
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I can feel a murder coming on...just not sure who is going to kill who !
Old 29 June 2006, 09:09 AM
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Post his mobile number up on here - that's a good start!

I'm on nightshift next week
Old 29 June 2006, 09:18 AM
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Straight to small claims court I'm afraid...... no messing..... then once you have the judgement against him.. go home.. sit down.. and smirk at the little **** at every opportunity you get.........

And tell them you got the idea from talking to mum & dad.. one bonfire pissed on..
Old 29 June 2006, 09:41 AM
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All you need is proof that the debt exists - a document or reliable witnesses.
That may be a stumbling block to the Small Claims Court idea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/law/smallclaimscourt.shtml
Old 29 June 2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by douglasb
That may be a stumbling block to the Small Claims Court idea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/law/smallclaimscourt.shtml
Not at all...

You can demonstrate that you had 5K (bank statement), that you withdrew 5K (again bank statement) and that your scumbag brother bought a car with.. hey guess what.. 5K...

Let him show the court where his 5K came from....?

Plus good old mom & dad will confirm he borrowed the 5K....

Case closed.........

Old 29 June 2006, 09:56 AM
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I mentioned the small claims court idea to my parents lastnight,and my mum gave me a look,which said something like 'don't even go there',so it looks like i'm battling with my parents as well,to get their support.
Old 29 June 2006, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by middxsti
I mentioned the small claims court idea to my parents lastnight,and my mum gave me a look,which said something like 'don't even go there',so it looks like i'm battling with my parents as well,to get their support.
Get your mum to one side and tell her that you will give your brother 1 month to start making payments or it's small claims court.. end of..

Now I suggest you get on with the task at hand and stop all this "my mum gave me a funny look.." nonsense.... and remember you're are an adult... so start acting like one
Old 29 June 2006, 10:11 AM
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middxsti, it seems to me that you need to learn how to be more assertive when dealing with your brother and parents. Decide on a course of action and stick with it - if your mother can 'give you a look' and it's enough to deter you, then you hardly deserve to get your money back (sorry if that sounds harsh).

Sit down with your mother and make it clear to her that you won't give up until your brother fulfils his obligation to repay the loan. Tell her what a poor example she is setting to your brother and, unless she is willing to repay the loan herself, she has no right to comment.

Then go and speak to your brother and give him a choice - either repay the loan within an agreed time frame, or accept the consequences (which will be whatever you have decided on). Personally, I would threaten a good beating, but you have several other (possibly more sensible) options open to you.

Now stop moaning on here and go and do something about it
Old 29 June 2006, 10:45 AM
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*RESULT*My parents have just phoned me and said to me they will give me the £5k,as long as i don't go to the small claims court-a cheque will be waiting for me this evening .I strongly believe this is as much my parents fault for not telling my brother off,in the first place,so i think i definetly will take the cheque off my dad tonight.I still have this feeling though,to teach my brother a lesson,if the oppurtunity arises i will give him a little taster.
Old 29 June 2006, 12:20 PM
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Not really fair on your parents though, although I realise they don't want the shame of it all coming out in court.

I would definitely try to get the logbook and the car and see how it goes from there.

Les
Old 29 June 2006, 12:25 PM
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Good news Middxsti

I was in a similar position with one of my bros a few years back. It wasn't quite as bad as 5k but I can sympathise with what you're going / been through.

I never got the money back off him but suffice to say it came back on him

Oh and to some of the people who have said earlier on in the thread..... sometimes giving the person a good beating isn't a viable option - unless of course your willing to use a very large piece of wood

Andy

EDITED TO ADD: Les, just seen your post and would agree with your "not fair on the parents" but as the OP mentioned earlier they were just telling him to "forget about it" - if my parents had said that to me then I'd have told them to give me the money and then THEY can forget about it

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Old 29 June 2006, 12:56 PM
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Looks like he got away with it then !

Just have to rely on the random nature of Karma to exact its revenge !
Old 29 June 2006, 01:06 PM
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Middsxti.
Got the money cleared in your account?
Wait a month and trash his car in some way to teach the spoilt little **** a lesson.
Hit his wallet hard.
Deny all knowledge in that "i did it, and don't mess me about anymore" way.
Old 29 June 2006, 01:17 PM
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He has a smug look on his face today,knowing he has got away with it.He is working on his car at the weekend to change a starter motor,the bonnet will be open,i wonder what i could do?
Old 29 June 2006, 01:18 PM
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Cash the cheque from your parents and wait a month or so then when he's a sleep or pi55ed borrow his keys and then drive past a couple of speed cameras.

Nice 3 points to bruv.
Old 29 June 2006, 01:30 PM
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Whatever you do, don't get revenge this weekend, wait a while, let everything be forgotten. Then exact revenge - ideally when you know he's pissed one of his mates off

And move out ASAP
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