Annoyed by Top Gear..!
07 July 2006, 12:40 PM
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surely each to there own
i bought an STi because it has a big spoiler and gold wheels but in black not blue
i can see the point about a spec D but id go for the STi everytime
its not that comfortable as an everyday car but thats the sacrifice of buying something moves and handles well enough
... me thinks times change and the road testers get to test so much so often the goal posts move for them all the time
i bought an STi because it has a big spoiler and gold wheels but in black not blue
i can see the point about a spec D but id go for the STi everytime
its not that comfortable as an everyday car but thats the sacrifice of buying something moves and handles well enough
... me thinks times change and the road testers get to test so much so often the goal posts move for them all the time
07 July 2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
RExactly what hothatches are supposed to keep up with me?
Its been nice talking!
Its been nice talking!
LCR?
ITR?
CTR when rolling?
07 July 2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
RExactly what hothatches are supposed to keep up with me?
Its been nice talking!
Its been nice talking!
LCR?
ITR?
CTR when rolling?
07 July 2006, 09:34 PM
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I'd say Spec D is poorly packaged and worst of all, so pricey.
A pre reg (essentially new) 05 WRX with PPP at £18k-£19k makes it look uncompetitive, plus buy discreet colour and ideally wagon and you have the Qcar thing, with real pace e.g. 4.8 seconds to 60.
I like Top Gear but they rubbish both my cars ( scoob and 350z) but I'm more than happy with the choices I've made.
I can't do wings and gold wheels at 36 but keep it discreet and I'd take a scooby any day over a hot hatch.
At the traffic lights a ppp'd wrx scoob, correctly launched, should deal with hot hatches.
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A pre reg (essentially new) 05 WRX with PPP at £18k-£19k makes it look uncompetitive, plus buy discreet colour and ideally wagon and you have the Qcar thing, with real pace e.g. 4.8 seconds to 60.
I like Top Gear but they rubbish both my cars ( scoob and 350z) but I'm more than happy with the choices I've made.
I can't do wings and gold wheels at 36 but keep it discreet and I'd take a scooby any day over a hot hatch.
At the traffic lights a ppp'd wrx scoob, correctly launched, should deal with hot hatches.
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07 July 2006, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wilb
Really agree with that. That episode REALLY put me off VBH!
The only reason to watch 5th is Plato, I rate him. I can't stand Tiff though.
Top Gear's still the best one to watch but I think JC's got a bit full of himself recently, it seems to be his show now rather than a group thing. I like all the presenters on Top Gear though.
The only reason to watch 5th is Plato, I rate him. I can't stand Tiff though.
Top Gear's still the best one to watch but I think JC's got a bit full of himself recently, it seems to be his show now rather than a group thing. I like all the presenters on Top Gear though.
He is a very arrogant man, but he's entertaining and makes me laff.
07 July 2006, 11:09 PM
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there's a distinct sense of embarrassment that comes with edging into the rush-hour gridlock
08 July 2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EdwardH
I like Top Gear but they rubbish both my cars ( scoob and 350z) but I'm more than happy with the choices I've made.
08 July 2006, 04:31 PM
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Sorry but bug eyes are ugly, thats probably why they don't have the selling power classics had. The bug eye wrx's look like big cars on skinny tyres, very off putting when looking at them from behind. I love classic's but i seriously can't ever see me owning or wanting to own a bug-eye, if i ever had that sort of cash i'd look at something prettier as well as quick.
08 July 2006, 07:06 PM
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I think the scoob is getting into to be a really niche car.. its not a Mondeo or Vectra or Passatt comfort wise, but its faster\better handling than all of them.. yet not quite on the Skyline\911\Evo\Elise level..its no fashionable poser car like the Boxster\350z... and hot hatches really are hot in the latest generation (ST,RS,MPS,GTi,R32).
Scoobs kind of a 'hot saloon', like the ITR.. bit of an outsider
Next generation of hot hatches? 4WD sub 6second to 60mph MINI SCOOBIES!
Scoobs kind of a 'hot saloon', like the ITR.. bit of an outsider
Next generation of hot hatches? 4WD sub 6second to 60mph MINI SCOOBIES!
08 July 2006, 07:45 PM
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So everyones slagging off TopGear now because they dont really rate that Impreza?!! Have people seen the 5th Gear review? (on their site) Thats more damming - describing it as a "thug mobile" or something along those lines. TopGear dont go that far, just that its embarrassing to be seen in, which many people would agree with.
Lets face it, the Impreza has had its day - but is still a great car if you want cheap performance, and dont care about image (or care about image, but are a chav)
09 July 2006, 04:53 PM
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third Scooby for me 46 now and loving the in yer face 06 STi with its bumpy ride bib spoiler,wr blue, gold wheels, unforgiving gear change..etc..Top Gear its just a glorified comedy show for the masses not for the serious car driver.
09 July 2006, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
So everyones slagging off TopGear now because they dont really rate that Impreza?!! Have people seen the 5th Gear review? (on their site) Thats more damming - describing it as a "thug mobile" or something along those lines. TopGear dont go that far, just that its embarrassing to be seen in, which many people would agree with.
Lets face it, the Impreza has had its day - but is still a great car if you want cheap performance, and dont care about image (or care about image, but are a chav)
09 July 2006, 10:37 PM
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I think these journo have finally smelt the coffee.
The impreza was overrated in its time, especially during the lull of cheap performance cars. They raved and ranted at how good it was and seemed to ignore every flaw the car has (and there are plenty).
Now there are alternatives, the Impreza's flaws, crude dynamics and ever tarnishing image show it up for what it is; A hum drum uninspiring jap box with a turbo strapped on and a tacky bodykit.
One drive in the Impreza GL (not available in the UK anymore ) even makes a Vauxhall Cavelier seem like a better driver's car
The Spec-D is a poor effort of trying to recreate the marque's original appeal 12 years ago, but it still sticks out like a sore thumb purely due to what it is - the common knowledge of who Subaru are (which 12 years ago was mostly unknown) and not to forget, its mish-mash looks.
The impreza was overrated in its time, especially during the lull of cheap performance cars. They raved and ranted at how good it was and seemed to ignore every flaw the car has (and there are plenty).
Now there are alternatives, the Impreza's flaws, crude dynamics and ever tarnishing image show it up for what it is; A hum drum uninspiring jap box with a turbo strapped on and a tacky bodykit.
One drive in the Impreza GL (not available in the UK anymore ) even makes a Vauxhall Cavelier seem like a better driver's car
The Spec-D is a poor effort of trying to recreate the marque's original appeal 12 years ago, but it still sticks out like a sore thumb purely due to what it is - the common knowledge of who Subaru are (which 12 years ago was mostly unknown) and not to forget, its mish-mash looks.
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10 July 2006, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
Right . . .So here's the million dollar question for Althong . . .Exactly what hothatches are supposed to keep up with me?
. .Please elaborate, because I have not really seen one yet . .
And its really funny how with my underpowered 265 break, I still manage to dust off most of the opposition, and what's even more frightening is that 9 out of ten times people see the Scoob and simply move out of the way . . .
Its been nice talking!
. .Please elaborate, because I have not really seen one yet . . And its really funny how with my underpowered 265 break, I still manage to dust off most of the opposition, and what's even more frightening is that 9 out of ten times people see the Scoob and simply move out of the way . . .
Its been nice talking!
I'm talking about standard like for like!!
11 July 2006, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
I never regarded Top Gear as the authority in motoring . . .Just think . .The target audience is a bunch of sad coffin dodgers (like Clarkson). .
. .Ever since my teens, I have noticed a propensity with Top Gear . .Anything, according to them, that is not made in Germany, and is under 40 thousdand ponds, is bound to be crap!
. . .That's why I stopped reading it!
. . .Its just not very productive!
"It still rides so hard that the danger of biting your tongue off is only countered by the greater likelihood of swallowing it, and every time you select another gear, the powertrain still hooks up aggressively enough slip a couple of discs." . . .
Basically - I've said this before so I will say it again . .Anyone complaining about the Subaru's ride is IMHO unsure of their sexuality . . . . . . Gold wheels + blue paint rule!
Nice taliking!
. .Ever since my teens, I have noticed a propensity with Top Gear . .Anything, according to them, that is not made in Germany, and is under 40 thousdand ponds, is bound to be crap! . . .That's why I stopped reading it! . . .Its just not very productive!"It still rides so hard that the danger of biting your tongue off is only countered by the greater likelihood of swallowing it, and every time you select another gear, the powertrain still hooks up aggressively enough slip a couple of discs." . . .
Basically - I've said this before so I will say it again . .Anyone complaining about the Subaru's ride is IMHO unsure of their sexuality . . . .
. . Gold wheels + blue paint rule!Nice taliking!
11 July 2006, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by alwong
Is your car standard? If so i'm assuming you have a STI ver 8?? I'm pretty sure the Ford Focus ST, VXR (in midrange), Cupra R would give you a run for your money. If it isn't standard then whay are you on about??
I'm talking about standard like for like!!
I'm talking about standard like for like!!
. .Standard or not . . Pushes 265 in totall . . .But even in standard form, Most of the opposition - even if quicker in the straight, will soon discover the joys of understeering . .
11 July 2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
Matie . .AS the handle goes - Its a standard WRX300 . . .To the laymen is a Standard WRX + PPP . .Standard or not . . Pushes 265 in totall . . .But even in standard form, Most of the opposition - even if quicker in the straight, will soon discover the joys of understeering . .
. .Standard or not . . Pushes 265 in totall . . .But even in standard form, Most of the opposition - even if quicker in the straight, will soon discover the joys of understeering . .I had a WRX PPP and struggled (In gear) against the BMW 535D.
11 July 2006, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alwong
Im sure you'll do well against most new hot hatches but you won't beat any comprehensively. Traffic light grand prix, maybe BUT in gear acceleration, you'll find it hard going.
I had a WRX PPP and struggled (In gear) against the BMW 535D.
I had a WRX PPP and struggled (In gear) against the BMW 535D.
11 July 2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
So why not shift down and dust the f*ckers off . .
11 July 2006, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
So why not shift down and dust the f*ckers off . .
Your 265bhp is not the be all and end all you know.
Your 4wd is a bonus off the line but in every other aspect of on road driving it is a hinderence.
All of the cars I mention would quite happily **** over you on a track or a reasonable section of hger majesty's finest tarmac.
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11 July 2006, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
So why not shift down and dust the f*ckers off . .
A 535d is faster in gear than a WRX. Do not confuse this with a 530d.
A 535d is probably quicker, in gear than an STi.
Just because a car isn't loud, has vents scoops and sounds like a hoover being churned around a cement mixer doesn't mean that it is fast by default.
11 July 2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by alwong
Is your car standard? If so i'm assuming you have a STI ver 8?? I'm pretty sure the Ford Focus ST, VXR (in midrange), Cupra R would give you a run for your money. If it isn't standard then whay are you on about??
I'm talking about standard like for like!!
I'm talking about standard like for like!!
11 July 2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Dont want the thread to deteriorate into one of these wrx / sti are **** threads again but the above statement is utterly rubbish. My previously standard WRX has stayed with a VXR up to higher speeds which to be honest i was surprised at but now its modded i feel it wouldnt struggle to beat them. Dont confuse me with some chav boy racer but the current hot hatches may well have certainly moved the game on and Top gear may well slag imprezas off but they are still relatively cheap performance cars that are easily and cheaply modded and i love mine and would never take any of the current hot hatches over it any day of the week. Any car can be modded to similar performance levels to an STI including the hot hatches but that doesnt make the subaru a crap car now does it.
'My previously standard WRX has stayed with a VXR up to higher speeds '
11 July 2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alwong
What are you on about? I said you'd struggle to beat a hot hatch such as the VXR in a WRX standard form and yet you say this statemet is utter rubbish then say the same thing i'm saying??
'My previously standard WRX has stayed with a VXR up to higher speeds '
'My previously standard WRX has stayed with a VXR up to higher speeds '