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Old 22 July 2006, 10:01 AM
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Anyone got any thoughts/advice on an old VTEC with low miles?

I'm going ot look at the white one today, they've given it a full inspection, but my worry is lots of small trips with cold engine = lots of ware. Salesman (not suprisingly) says, Honda's are bullet proof.
Old 22 July 2006, 08:46 PM
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he bought it
Old 22 July 2006, 09:36 PM
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I had a Civic 1.8vti as a company car for 3 years and 120,000miles. I absolutely thrashed it within an inch of it's life every single day and it never went wrong - not even a bulb blew.

Initially they seem like an average annoying understeery FWD car - but push them hard and there's a reasonable chassis there.

A good choice for a 'different' car
Old 22 July 2006, 11:55 PM
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I must admit that the handling of my 1.8VTi-S for a fwd car was amazing. Always made sure it had Bridgestone Potenza tyres on it which helped. Had it on a few track days at Donington and with a good run out of coppice got it up to 130mph on the back straight before the chicane on to the start finish straight. Once on a real hot lap on the way in to mcleans corner had a classic scoob pull over and wave me past. After that session the brakes were smoking and had small stones sticking to the tyes they were that hot.
So really, these cars do handle well but also are very predictable at the limit.
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Originally Posted by Edcase
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Horrah!

It's very rapid, and given a few people a shock in second and third gear, it's doing over 100 in third by the time you change gear at the end of the vtec. FUN! Tyres are all knackered, so it's not handling that well at the moment. Working out the best tyre choice, then we're in business.

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Old 23 July 2006, 09:41 PM
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Seems like the Potenzas are a good choice.
Old 23 July 2006, 10:02 PM
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Old 23 July 2006, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz1121
I must admit that the handling of my 1.8VTi-S for a fwd car was amazing. Always made sure it had Bridgestone Potenza tyres on it which helped. Had it on a few track days at Donington and with a good run out of coppice got it up to 130mph on the back straight before the chicane on to the start finish straight. Once on a real hot lap on the way in to mcleans corner had a classic scoob pull over and wave me past. After that session the brakes were smoking and had small stones sticking to the tyes they were that hot.
So really, these cars do handle well but also are very predictable at the limit.
this must have been a well modified civic to hit 130mph at donington cause my zs has about an extra 45 bhp ,weighs substantially less ,handles better etc and i can only just hit 120 mph and i can drive a bit too,to get another 10 mph in the same length straight i reckon i would need another 50 bhp
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I used the re010's and were one of the best tyres for that car I found from experience.
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Originally Posted by mg driver
this must have been a well modified civic to hit 130mph at donington cause my zs has about an extra 45 bhp ,weighs substantially less ,handles better etc and i can only just hit 120 mph and i can drive a bit too,to get another 10 mph in the same length straight i reckon i would need another 50 bhp
The only mods it had were eibach springs and K&N cone filter. I was very committed through coppice corner and was braking for the chicane just before where the GP loop goes off on the left. My speed maybe was just under 130mph but for sure was between 125-130mph.
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Originally Posted by Daz1121
I used the re010's and were one of the best tyres for that car I found from experience.
Aye, a few people have said RE0720 as well.
Old 24 July 2006, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Daz1121
The only mods it had were eibach springs and K&N cone filter. I was very committed through coppice corner and was braking for the chicane just before where the GP loop goes off on the left. My speed maybe was just under 130mph but for sure was between 125-130mph.
not a chance buddy sorry ,i used to race karts and so i know about comitment and ive driven donington a few times too ,very quickly, your car wasnt capable of that speed no matter how comitted you were,your speedo may have said that but you werent doing it,you may just have scraped 110 mph.
not that it matters ,no offence intended.
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Originally Posted by mg driver
not a chance buddy sorry ,i used to race karts and so i know about comitment and ive driven donington a few times too ,very quickly, your car wasnt capable of that speed no matter how comitted you were,your speedo may have said that but you werent doing it,you may just have scraped 110 mph.
not that it matters ,no offence intended.
Can you not hi-jack my thread

RE: Tyres, somenoe has offered me a pair of 15" JDM ITR White alloys with a set of nearly new Goodyear Eagle F1, which are apparently pretty good ont he EB6, it's going to cost me well over £200 for a set of Bridgestone re010 or RE0720, so I am quite tempted to do that for now.

I wasn't going to modify it, but now I'm starting to wanna lower it, change the zorst and get a remap to lower the vtec.. LOL

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Old 24 July 2006, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mg driver
not a chance buddy sorry ,i used to race karts and so i know about comitment and ive driven donington a few times too ,very quickly, your car wasnt capable of that speed no matter how comitted you were,your speedo may have said that but you werent doing it,you may just have scraped 110 mph.
not that it matters ,no offence intended.
The speedo was showing 125mph but as you said, will never know the true speed and the top speed of the car is 137mph, so indicated speed of 125mph on a circuit is attainable I'd say.
I was going to put a sports exhaust on but could find a stockist. As for the tyre, give the Eagles a go and if you don't like them you can always change them when needed. Just a word of warning, you won't get much more than 10K miles out of a set of front tyres if your lucky. The VTi Civics eat front tyres and also get the tracking checked regularly.
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Loved my old K reg 1.6 3Dr VTi. (158bhp)

Vtec is a bit marmite - and I loved it.

The engine note as it hit the vtec never ever failed to raise a smile. I think over time the Vtec has been made less obvious...which is a shame IMHO.
Old 31 July 2006, 06:28 PM
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To bring this thread to a conclusion.

Many thanks to all who gave feedback, I've had my lil car for a week now, and since fitted some lightweight JDM ITR wheels (in white naturally), with Mitchy Eagle F1's, and I must say it's a new car. F1's are very grippy, but also allow the car to drift a little on lift off. It's defo got too much susp travel, and it's quite 'floaty', that said, it hangs on tight and nicely adjustable, but probably not as focused as other marques of the same time period in terms of handling. Not had a good chance to hair through some bent and twisty much, but what I have seen so far is impressive, and it's certinly no slow-coach, I've kept up with some quick cars on the M25 and M4 over the past week. I read regularly that lowering it even with just lowering sprints by 35mm odd with standard shocks improves handling alot.

I got this one for £3.5k with a years warranty, list price of £5.5k. One old foggy previous owner, who had it serviced by franchised dealer every year, and only covered 20k miles since new (1998). Car was spotless, been serviced regularly but no cam-belt changed, I negotiated with the dealer to change the cambelt for me for free, and give it a service. Service manager there said he highly doubts i'll have any problems with it for at least the next 70k miles, provided it gets regular servicing / oil changes.

If anyone is looking for a cheap alternative to a scoob with seats for four and a boot, defo consider one of these. I'm off for a blat in the sun, see ya!









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Old 02 August 2006, 10:33 AM
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De-tango!
Old 02 August 2006, 10:25 PM
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Good choice of alloys and tyres, I think the itr alloys are pretty light. I have 'em too:

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