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Old 02 August 2006, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoppy
Superbly put Jacko. We need to wake up.

Richard.
yes richard u would say that wont u, coz your a zionist **** stirrer, let the goyim slaughter each other and no one will notice how u and your zionists plot the takeover of the world and sit back and watch and enjoy the show and coffee


mel gibson said jews r behind all the wars in the world, now it makes sense, no offence to the decent people just the zionists

i kinda agree on what he said
Old 02 August 2006, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
lol i luv ***** like u i luv saying the bitter rage in your hearts and the **** spewing out , doesnt matter what u think of me dude, do i give a **** of what u think

and this is my country u get the **** out and suck on blairs ding dong if u wish, he has betrayed my country , u got a cheek, u mongrel do u even know who your ancestors r , u saying this aint my country is not gonna stop me being scottish, doesnt matter what u say u mongrel, im a patriot scots muslim and proud of it and nothing is ever gonna change that u aberdeen filthy son of a dole scrounging blair sucking doggy lover


your a **** and i shall not entertain u but rather see your rage and enjoy it

and also DEATH TO THE ISRAELI **** SCUM
Calm it down mate, or you'll have the plod round at the rate you're going.

You gotta be careful what you say, even if you think the above, saying it can land you in prison where you'll be no good to your family.
Old 02 August 2006, 01:13 PM
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by the way u cant get a decent discussion here ,too many trolls

i will wait till the cool people come on and hello brendan and adam , bravo where have u all gone and leslie


cheers
Old 02 August 2006, 01:14 PM
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Going well isn't it, everybody?


I'm actually glad we've awakened the monster. THIS is why there will never be true and lasting peace in the Middle East. Nobody else needs to say anything. Very, very sad.
Old 02 August 2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
Calm it down mate, or you'll have the plod round at the rate you're going.

You gotta be careful what you say, even if you think the above, saying it can land you in prison where you'll be no good to your family.

true mate its sad aint it, get put in jail for telling the truth lol

they arrested a poor old jewish man in the labour conferance u remember, who did so much for this country and his crime woz criticising blair last yr and he got done for the terror bill

i will see u in gitmo my friend

and iwan hows u bros, mate i got a goshawk , he is moulting at the moment

will post u some pics , he is beautiful , i named him mujahid lol
Old 02 August 2006, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Going well isn't it, everybody?


I'm actually glad we've awoken the monster. THIS is why there will never be true and lasting peace in the Middle East. Nobody else needs to say anything. Very, very sad.
sure is just what u wanted troll boy u show yourself as a **** stirrer and troll

this woz your plan

but wont entertain u anymore but u can still suck my monster if u wish
Old 02 August 2006, 01:17 PM
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No moses, YOU are the one spouting anti-Jewish terrorist crap, nobody is forcing you to. You just can't help yourself, you hate them that much.

QED
Old 02 August 2006, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by doug2507
Rage? well how about you join the army mate, go over to one of the middle east countries to sort it out and stand by and watch as your's mate are shot in the head or blown up so badly that they cant even be identified by their dental records. Not because we're the enemy, but because we 're trying to get some sort of stability in the average joe bloggs life and get rid of the extremeists who are causing all the noise.. Cool innit? NOT!

Freedom of speach is fine mate untill its stuck in your face. I wouldnt call broadcasting to the muslim community telling them to take up arms against the west fair 'freedom of speach'.
dont u get white supremiscts and jews saying kill the goyim and darkies and jews , hitler rules etc in the uk

dont u call them traitors for loving hitler the same guy who the brits went to war with and dont u call those brits who luv hitler traitors, the number 1 british enemy at the time

no one has the right to go to someone elses country for oil and lies and invade and slaughter them

no brit supported that just the minority, thats who u belong to

and doug i will teach u some freedom of speech, trust me for the sake of some people here, i wont, your *** will burn and u shall get shell shocked , your brain is narrower than your **** dude

and hail scotland and **** doug

im aff , wont entertain u anymore or trolls

but i will wait till others come on and ignore u all

i luv this, the monster has been released and telboy likes it up his **** and other 2 holes
Old 02 August 2006, 01:20 PM
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Glad things are going well with the goshawk mate.

There are things I believe in but wouldn't say in writing or in public, because various laws say I can't. But it doesn't stop me thinking or believing them.

I'm neither Jew or Muslim, I can see the valid arguments of both sides and I can also see the bull$hit spouted by both sides. As always it's the innocent folks who get caught up in the middle of it all.
Old 02 August 2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
No moses, YOU are the one spouting anti-Jewish terrorist crap, nobody is forcing you to. You just can't help yourself, you hate them that much.

QED

lol u leach
Old 02 August 2006, 01:21 PM
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Sad terrorist ****
Old 02 August 2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
I haven't agreed with much of what Hoppy has said in this thread but I do believe what he says that most of both populations are sick of fighting and just want peace
Brendan, agreed.

I stumbled across some figures a few days ago, but cannot find the damn link now. But basically it was a poll taken in both Lebanon and Israel shortly after the Lebanese elections in Feb 06, when Hamas swept to power. I can't remember the exact numbers, but was struct by the common view of both populations. Approx 75% of both sides wanted negotiated peace.

But if you google the subject now, the reverse is true. Figures vary, but generally 80-90% on both sides are in favour of continued military force from Israel and Hezbollah. Not surprising, but surely proof that whatever the outcome of the current conflict, it only hardens resolve on both sides

Richard.
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Originally Posted by Iwan
Glad things are going well with the goshawk mate.

There are things I believe in but wouldn't say in writing or in public, because various laws say I can't. But it doesn't stop me thinking or believing them.

I'm neither Jew or Muslim, I can see the valid arguments of both sides and I can also see the bull$hit spouted by both sides. As always it's the innocent folks who get caught up in the middle of it all.

sure is my friend but what i said is the truth and not terror

if they arrest me for that, let them

peace to u bud
Old 02 August 2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Sad terrorist ****

sad c;unt u r and i shall terrorise your arsehole with my luv monster


man this is sad, im going down to your sewer level lol u poofter


im aff
Old 02 August 2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
No moses, YOU are the one spouting anti-Jewish terrorist crap, nobody is forcing you to. You just can't help yourself, you hate them that much.

QED

Well to be fair Telboy it's not strictly anti Jewish but anti oppressionist. He said he has many Jewish friends. Let's keep things factual.


QED
Old 02 August 2006, 01:27 PM
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That doesn't make it QED, RA, but ok, point taken. But be clear, no Muslim has a proper Jewish friend. You know in your heart what i mean.
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
That doesn't make it QED, RA, but ok, point taken. But be clear, no Muslim has a proper Jewish friend. You know in your heart what i mean.

and no telboy has a true friend, he is his own best friend and his inflatable gay texan cowboys

he is a virgin, touched for the very first time , he is like a viriiigin touched by the rubber gayman

lol this is oh so much fun its so nice to be back haha


but i aint back for long, i cant be bothered of going to the levels of ****s tel and doug and a few others

so i will keep in visiting sometimes

and if tel knew his history, jews r alive coz of the muslims otherwise u would have to pay 50 quid a ticket to see them in the musuems

check your history dude, but i forgot your brain is smaller than your ****, i doubt your mind will digest the info
Old 02 August 2006, 02:07 PM
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Just shut the **** up, moses. If you think i'm actually reading what you're desperately trying to fashion into insults, you're very wrong. You'll still wake up the would-be terrorist tomorrow though.
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[quote=moses]sad c;unt u r and i shall terrorise your arsehole with my luv monster


Is that not against your religion?
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[quote=moses]sure is my friend but what i said is the truth and not terror

previous thread:

DEATH TO THE ISRAELI **** SCUM

hmmm...
Old 02 August 2006, 02:18 PM
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moses is back lol

Always useful to have first hand evidence of how the mind of the average Islamist in the street works.
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Originally Posted by moses
its so nice to be back haha
but i aint back for long
Thank ****
Old 02 August 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
T But be clear, no Muslim has a proper Jewish friend. You know in your heart what i mean.
What a load of complete rubbish Telboy. How on earth do you justify that statement.
Old 02 August 2006, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
What a load of complete rubbish Telboy. How on earth do you justify that statement.
Easily, every Muslims primary obligation is to his Muslim brothers and sisters.
Old 02 August 2006, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
What a load of complete rubbish Telboy. How on earth do you justify that statement.

Personal experience, the best justification of all. Superficially yeah, it can work, often in situations where it has to work. Strip it down though, and it's a different story, exactly as Kiwi has said. They bloody hate each other mate, don't be under any illusion.
Old 02 August 2006, 03:12 PM
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A bit off-topic, but relevant I think…

The fundamental instability of the Arab states and why it is important for The West to have a foothold.

In 1980, Iraq invaded Iran over ancient territorial rights. The war rumbled on for eight years, and resulted in an estimated 1m casualties, at a cost of $1.19 trillion. The west just stood by, apart from the US which gave some assistance to Iraq over fears that the newly radical Iran might get the upper hand. It seems that The West was quite happy for Arabs to kill Arabs, so long as the status quo was maintained, and oil supplies unaffected.

During the war, Iraq used chemical and biological weapons against Iran, and also most infamously against it’s own people, the Kurds.

Iraq then turned on Kuwait in 1990-91, a state carved out of Iraq by the British post the First WW. Again territorial rights were cited, but also the accusation that Kuwait was ‘slant drilling’ and stealing oil from Iraqi fields. There is a lot of oil in Kuwait and global supplies were under immediate threat, so…

There was immediate uproar from the UN, who dispatched a force from 30 member states (mostly US forces) and repulsed the Iraqis. They set fire to oil fields as they retreated, which burned for weeks. They also found time to launch scud missiles into Israel and only the strongest pressure from the US prevented Israel from entering the fray, which could have lit a fuse across all Arab nations. It is clear that the words ‘Israel/Jew’ are about the only thing that unites the Arab states with a common response (and it’s never a pleasant one). The word ‘America’ is also unpopular, and ‘Britain’ isn’t far behind.

Fears about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq began to form. Parts were found from an alleged Iraqi Super Gun, capable of reaching Israel. After 9/11, we know how this ended up, and now the US (and British) ‘liberators’ in Iraq are in a horrific mess trying to establish law and order amongst warring religious groups that all want a (different) say in things, all stirred up by insurgents with links to Al Qaeda.

The Arab League represents over 20 Arab states, and about a dozen different religions. This organisation does not appear to exert any significant influence, and cannot agree within itself. Libya has resigned and rejoined several times.

Not a rosy outlook, is it?

Richard.
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And how relevant will the arab states be after fossil fuels are no longer acceptable?

The future looks even worse when you consider they have squandered most of their wealth and that the golden age of these fuels is already over.

In 20 years time they will be no more than another 'Africa' with no skills, assets or anything of value.

Edit: And the majority of it will be their own fault. US/Britain have catalysed situations but they still have themselves and their corrupt regimes to blame.
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Ah- so THAT'S why they're trying to get nuclear power. An innocent, forward-thinking reason after all!
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
In 20 years time they will be no more than another 'Africa' with no skills, assets or anything of value.
From a western perspective and judged by western values. I'm sure it could be argued that the western values of materialism and greed are of no moral value.

Bottom line - we can't judge different cultures with our own values and the mess that is Iraq is showing the very high cost in blood for trying to impose those values.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
And how relevant will the arab states be after fossil fuels are no longer acceptable?

The future looks even worse when you consider they have squandered most of their wealth and that the golden age of these fuels is already over.

In 20 years time they will be no more than another 'Africa' with no skills, assets or anything of value.

Edit: And the majority of it will be their own fault. US/Britain have catalysed situations but they still have themselves and their corrupt regimes to blame.
From what i can gather they are trying there hand at the property market. Dubai as you probably know is booming at the moment, but i personally feel that supply is way outstripping demand.


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