Why are sti's better than the equivalant wrx?
14 July 2006, 06:46 PM
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back to the original question 
An import wrx can be had for somewhere near 16k, a uk sti can make you part with somewhere nearer 28k.
it is surely not worth 12k extra, for 12k you could get an engine built and have change for a built gearbox and **** over any sti you care to.
An import wrx can be had for somewhere near 16k, a uk sti can make you part with somewhere nearer 28k.
it is surely not worth 12k extra, for 12k you could get an engine built and have change for a built gearbox and **** over any sti you care to.
14 July 2006, 06:50 PM
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In relation to new age cars...
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
14 July 2006, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
In relation to new age cars...
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
Rob
14 July 2006, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
In relation to new age cars...
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
See CW42, you should just e-mail someone who knows rather than asking on here. Doesn't Pete know?
14 July 2006, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
14 July 2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Just a more rewarding "out of the box" car to own
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Went from a bog standard uk classic to a MY04 JDM STi and loving every minute of it, the cars are chalk and cheese
14 July 2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Just a more rewarding "out of the box" car to own
Tony
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And some classic imprezas might be faster, some newage wrx's might be faster, But the newage STI will turn heads nearly everywhere you go!
For example yesterday I was driving out of a very popular seaside town where property prices are on a par with London, I was driving my 03 STI all gleaming and shining and brubling along nicely through the ppp exhaust following an aston martin db7 And i would honestly say i had more admiring looks to my car than he did.................
If i had have been in a classic or a newage WRX would people have had the same reaction?
14 July 2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by N*UFO
Agree 100%
And some classic imprezas might be faster, some newage wrx's might be faster, But the newage STI will turn heads nearly everywhere you go!
For example yesterday I was driving out of a very popular seaside town where property prices are on a par with London, I was driving my 03 STI all gleaming and shining and brubling along nicely through the ppp exhaust following an aston martin db7 And i would honestly say i had more admiring looks to my car than he did.................
If i had have been in a classic or a newage WRX would people have had the same reaction?
And some classic imprezas might be faster, some newage wrx's might be faster, But the newage STI will turn heads nearly everywhere you go!
For example yesterday I was driving out of a very popular seaside town where property prices are on a par with London, I was driving my 03 STI all gleaming and shining and brubling along nicely through the ppp exhaust following an aston martin db7 And i would honestly say i had more admiring looks to my car than he did.................
If i had have been in a classic or a newage WRX would people have had the same reaction?
Rob
14 July 2006, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy S.
Are you shure about that I was speaking to a designer at AP Racing who was complaining that the new cars had changed to smaller bearings and he was expecting problems with the big brake set ups!!
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14 July 2006, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WR1 Bro
STi adds two inches to your ***** 
WRX only adds one inch to your *****
If you come to my house you will find three STi's and three WRX's.... that gives my ***** an extra 9 inches!!
WRX only adds one inch to your *****
If you come to my house you will find three STi's and three WRX's.... that gives my ***** an extra 9 inches!!
14 July 2006, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobydooooo
tell him to look at the specs on the subaru website then , as all he seems to be doing on here is poo pooing what people are telling him , if he wants specs LOOK IT UP !!
and then finally:
zen performance, I thank you
In relation to new age cars...
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
I wanted to see what peoples perception of the sti is, I think I found my answer, for those in the know, there is a world of difference, for those who have listened to too much pub talk, and not actually read through some of the threads on here, there's not much difference, but it goes better!
Thanks for all your responses guys, so as zen performance put it, there is quite a lot of difference between a wrx and an sti. Glad I bought one now
14 July 2006, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by N*UFO
Agree 100%
And some classic imprezas might be faster, some newage wrx's might be faster, But the newage STI will turn heads nearly everywhere you go!
For example yesterday I was driving out of a very popular seaside town where property prices are on a par with London, I was driving my 03 STI all gleaming and shining and brubling along nicely through the ppp exhaust following an aston martin db7 And i would honestly say i had more admiring looks to my car than he did.................
If i had have been in a classic or a newage WRX would people have had the same reaction?
And some classic imprezas might be faster, some newage wrx's might be faster, But the newage STI will turn heads nearly everywhere you go!
For example yesterday I was driving out of a very popular seaside town where property prices are on a par with London, I was driving my 03 STI all gleaming and shining and brubling along nicely through the ppp exhaust following an aston martin db7 And i would honestly say i had more admiring looks to my car than he did.................
If i had have been in a classic or a newage WRX would people have had the same reaction?
End of the day it comes down to what you want in a car. STI definately has more potential in the modding stakes but ive heard a lot of comments about the suspension being too harsh and gold wheels!! say no more. But maybe thats just jealosy.
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14 July 2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by brum subz
THEY HAVE FORGED PISTONS,TD05 TURBO ETC BELIVE ME IT WILL **** YOU UP
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14 July 2006, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
In relation to new age cars...
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
16 July 2006, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by brum subz
THEY HAVE FORGED PISTONS,TD05 TURBO ETC BELIVE ME IT WILL **** YOU UP
Think your aiming for a target audience mate.
16 July 2006, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
In relation to new age cars...
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
Wider track
Wider wheels
Bigger brakes front and rear
Bigger hubs at rear, bigger again front and rear on 05 onwards
LSD front and rear diffs
DCCD centre diff from 05 onwards
Alloy lower front suspension arms
6 speed gearbox
Larger diameter clutch
Different cams
Stronger conrods (on 2.0 models)
Stronger pistons (on 2.0 models)
Sodium filled exhaust valves
Hollow inlet valves
AVCS Adjustable cams (also on 06 WRX and most newage JDM wrx)
Shimless cam followers (also on WRX in MY06)
Larger turbo
Larger injectors (on 2.0 models)
Larger intercooler
Larger drivershafts
Larger rear diff
Larger (stiffer) anti roll bars
Stiffer engine mounts
Stiffer gearbox mount
Alloy lower rear arms (05 onwards)
Ball jointed front drop links
Ball jointed, straight rear drop links (05 onwards)
More supportives seats
Alcantara trimmed interior
Higher ratio steering rack
Softer tyres (05 onwards)
So not a lot really
