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Old 29 July 2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
Boro & Villa to go down.
Neither of those to will go down.

Yeah im a Villa fan & were in a mess a tho mo, but as soon as Doug f~#ks off an Martin O'Neil comes in it will be happy days again.

European cup winners 1982...Wheres Chelskis & the Arsenals
Old 30 July 2006, 02:29 PM
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Newcastle are relegation material going on how they played yesterday, not even sweet, sweet booze could absorb the pain
Old 30 July 2006, 04:59 PM
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that bad richie more evidence that we need more strikers! and not center backs
Old 30 July 2006, 06:08 PM
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1) scousers of the red variety
2)chelsea
3)man utd
4)arsenal
5)tottenham

bottom 3
villa
sheff utd
watford
in any order you wish

fa cup
tottenham
champions league
chelsea

all dependant on any more signings of course.

promoted

leeds
birmingham
sunderland
Old 30 July 2006, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutz

Yeah im a Villa fan & were in a mess a tho mo, but as soon as Doug f~#ks off an Martin O'Neil comes in it will be happy days again.

European cup winners 1982...Wheres Chelskis & the Arsenals
he better hurry up then or the transfer window will be shut, it'll be too late for o'neill to do anything and you'll be shagged before the window opens again.

it looks like he's gonna do the off at last, hopefully your new man will spend a lot of cash. you need in excess of 20 mil (4 or 5 good players)
Old 30 July 2006, 07:48 PM
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1. Chelsea (90 pts) - just too much talent bought I'm afraid. They have a second team of internationals happy to sit back and take the money.

2. Arsenal (85 pts) - will be a lot better than last year, maturing side, best player in the world has stayed.

3. Liverpool (84 pts) - strong again, just not good enough to win it

4. Man Utd (75 pts) - I see them off the pace this year. The slow decline over the past 3 years continues. Losing RVN without replacing is a major setback.

Again, no change in the top 4 choice, just the order.

Champs League - Bayern Munich
FA Cup - top 4 team
Mickey Mouse cup - who cares..
Old 30 July 2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Maul
Man Utd (75 pts) - The slow decline over the past 3 years continues.
I think you may be getting Man Utd confused with Arsenal:

2003-4 1st 90 pts 3rd 75 pts
2004-5 2nd 83 pts 3rd 77 pts
2005-6 4th 67 pts 2nd 83 pts

One of these teams is in a slow decline. The other is Man Utd.
Old 30 July 2006, 10:39 PM
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2003-4 1st 90 pts 3rd 75 pts
2004-5 2nd 83 pts 3rd 77 pts
2005-6 4th 67 pts 2nd 83 pts
A 1st, 2nd and a 4th in the last 3 Seasons, beats two 3rds and a 2nd...
Old 30 July 2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by richiewong
Newcastle are relegation material going on how they played yesterday, not even sweet, sweet booze could absorb the pain
Were we that bad? I was (would love to say getting wasted) watching the test cricket for the first time ever. No clue what was going on but a geordie did good.
Old 31 July 2006, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by skoda_kid
1) Chelsea - Can't see them not winning, especially with Ballack and Shev
2) Arsenal - Really think they will prove to be the biggest threat to Chelsea
3) Liverpool - Always seem to be near the top, despite being far from the most exciting team to watch. Good signing in Bellamy, plenty of goals in him.
4) Man Utd - Still linked with some quality players, finished strongly last season, all depends on how they start the season, but 2nd or 3rd could be on the cards.

British Team for CL

FA Cup too early to call, always throws up some surprises.

Just my 2p's worth.....



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I like your style of thinking! 'mon the hoops
Old 31 July 2006, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Castrol
A 1st, 2nd and a 4th in the last 3 Seasons, beats two 3rds and a 2nd...
The results may have been better, but that's not the point.
Man Utd's results have slowly improved over the last 3 seasons, while Arsenal's have steadily got worse.
Old 31 July 2006, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dharbige
The results may have been better, but that's not the point.
Man Utd's results have slowly improved over the last 3 seasons, while Arsenal's have steadily got worse.
You'd better be replacing Ruud.

Carrick will be able to get the ball up to Rooney - but now Ronaldo has shown the rest of the Prem how to get Utd down to 10 mean for most of the match .
Old 31 July 2006, 08:42 AM
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slowly improved
Yes, 3rd, 3rd and 2nd is very slow improvement indeed!
Old 31 July 2006, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dharbige
The results may have been better, but that's not the point.
Man Utd's results have slowly improved over the last 3 seasons, while Arsenal's have steadily got worse.
OK whatever, deluded united fan If you judgement is by the exact number of points you have then you can make an argument that you are steady. but you haven't challenged for the title for a few years, europe has been very poor, you've managed to win the mickey mouse cup in those years. you've lost keane, rvn, beckham etc, you've replaced with oshea, fletcher... to me that is a steady decline.


Anyway, either way, this season is going to be another bore with the same results roughly. I'm interested to see how Watford do, because they do have a class manager.
Old 31 July 2006, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Maul
OK whatever, deluded united fan
I'm not deluded. I never said that Man Utd. had been playing well. I actually think they have been quite poor.
My only point was that looking at the Premiership table (and ONLY the Premiership table), there is more evidence to suggest that Arsenal are in a slow decline than Man Utd.
Old 31 July 2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dharbige
there is more evidence to suggest that Arsenal are in a slow decline than Man Utd.
What evidence? I'd be suprised if United finish above Arsenal this year.
Old 31 July 2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
What evidence?
I refer the honourable gentleman to my post #37 above.
Old 31 July 2006, 02:46 PM
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and I'll refer your good self to post #38. I support neither team but I know which Id be happier supporter off at current time.
Old 31 July 2006, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
and I'll refer your good self to post #38. I support neither team but I know which Id be happier supporter off at current time.
I'll refer youself back, again, to my original post, and to the post I was quoting.
My post was demonstrating that there was more evidence of a "slow decline" in Arsenals last 3 seasons than in Man Utds, which have actually slowly improved. The evidence for this is in the data I posted.

I'm not denying that Man Utds last 3 seasons have been disappointing - they have - but last season's Premiership campaign was definately an improvement over the previous 2. I don't think you'll find many Arsenal fans thinking the same way.
Old 31 July 2006, 03:39 PM
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No but Arsenal was able to counter the 4th position with a Champions League Final.... So your point doesnt really do anything does it?
Old 31 July 2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
No but Arsenal was able to counter the 4th position with a Champions League Final.... So your point doesnt really do anything does it?
So my evidence showing that Man Utd's league position has improved over the last 3 seasons, so they are demonstrably not in a "slow decline", is meaningless because Arsenal reached the CL final? WTF kind of reasoning is that???

I'm posting FACT as opposed to OPPINION. Just because in your opinion you would rather support Arsenal than Man Utd does not mean that the facts are not relevant.
Old 31 July 2006, 04:19 PM
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No, your completely missing the point. Im not saying United are in a slow decline. Im not saying theyre improving. Im disputing Arsenal have declined. My post #46 is in reply to your post #45 saying Arsenal are in a slow decline... In fact they had a poor start to last season and stepped it up half way through (remember how far down the table they was mid season? Yet they finished pretty strongly pipping Tottenham to the CL spot and managing to get to the CL final, so Im
Old 31 July 2006, 04:20 PM
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Glad to see no-one has Pompey as going down ........ Good old Arry.
Old 31 July 2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dharbige
there is more evidence to suggest that Arsenal are in a slow decline than Man Utd.
You're both ****e .......... UP THE CHAMPIONS!!!!
Old 31 July 2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Glad to see no-one has Pompey as going down ........ Good old Arry.
Who????
Old 31 July 2006, 05:01 PM
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Mr Dawson do you not get bored of bullying the rest of us with your 'were the best', 'we are champions', 'i love Lampard' etc etc
Old 31 July 2006, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
Mr Dawson do you not get bored of bullying the rest of us with your 'were the best', 'we are champions', 'i love Lampard' etc etc
Get back to the Division 2 section
Old 31 July 2006, 05:37 PM
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.......oh and by the way, Lampards good 'aint he
Old 31 July 2006, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
No, your (sic) completely missing the point. Im not saying United are in a slow decline. Im not saying theyre improving. Im disputing Arsenal have declined. My post #46 is in reply to your post #45 saying Arsenal are in a slow decline
In that case, I suggest you read the aforemention post #45 again.

Originally Posted by dharbige
looking at the Premiership table (and ONLY the Premiership table), there is more evidence to suggest that Arsenal are in a slow decline than Man Utd
I did not, in fact, say (in that post) that Arsenal were in a slow decline.
Old 31 July 2006, 06:58 PM
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wooo you used the word suggest, that your get out clause is it?


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