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Old 29 July 2006, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
If there is no red light camera I move for emergency vehicles, however if as happened to me last year a police car comes up behind, sirens wailing and there is a camera I just sit there until the lights change. The pigs in the car were jumping up and down in their seats and screaming at me to move, as if I'm going to take 3 points for their 'emergency' .
Surely in this case the right thing to do would indeed be to have gone through the red light, because you're being signalled to do so by a police officer, and motorists are obliged to follow instructions given to them by the police.

Ambulance drivers and firefighters don't have the same power, of course.
Old 29 July 2006, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
Surely in this case the right thing to do would indeed be to have gone through the red light, because you're being signalled to do so by a police officer, and motorists are obliged to follow instructions given to them by the police.

Ambulance drivers and firefighters don't have the same power, of course.
Nope! The blue lights merely show you of their presence. It gives them no right to force you through a red light. Going through the red light is a decision you have to make based on what is going off around you. After all you could get T-boned going through, do you think then the Police would take responsiblility for the accident and say "we made him go thourgh" ???
No, i thought not.

This is from Tuts Bird's earlier post:-
A Met Police website (http://www.met.police.uk/mpds/courses.htm) states:

Although police and other emergency vehicles have legal exemptions from certain traffic regulations, the use of warning equipment does NOT give an Emergency vehicle the right of way but merely alerts members of the public to its presence and that it is responding to an urgent matter.
Old 30 July 2006, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
The pigs in the car were jumping up and down in their seats and screaming at me to move
That's the signal - not the blue lights. Why should it be any different to a police officer opening his window and waving you to pull over?
Old 30 July 2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
That's the signal - not the blue lights. Why should it be any different to a police officer opening his window and waving you to pull over?
.......because if I was being asked to pull over they wouldn't be telling me to risk my driving licence and points by driving through a red light.

No amount of waving, lights, sirens or screaming will get me to move through a red light which has a camera because I will then be prosecuted for doing so.

Therefore the murder, heart attack or fire victim will just have to wait due to the intransigent nature of the law in England.
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