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Old 06 August 2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrakes
Spoke to my local shell station, and they had no Idea what I was talking about, in other words shell have not at this time made any statement ref the new improved optimax, also if you take a look on there web site, nothing..

John
would you like to speak to the garage in question m8 i have there number!
Old 06 August 2006, 09:35 PM
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My local fill up also couldn't/didn't know what I was on about when I asked this question BUT there is no doubt that the fuel "seems" to be better, I don't have the STi back yet BUT the black car is revelling in "something" despite the hot temps, performance is "awesome" comparitively. Huge difference.

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Old 06 August 2006, 10:06 PM
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I went earlier and fillled up at the station in question then asked and they said it is 102 ron optimax compared to the old tankers
Old 07 August 2006, 01:27 PM
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The reason I guess some Shell petrol stns "do not know" about the new fuel is most likely that Shell will want to properly manage & coordinate the "launch" of the product, once all the logistics, supply & advertising are in place. I doubt they will want to "dribble" information out to the general public before all is ready.

I guess also, what with increased competition with BP Ultimate & Tesco 99, that Shell utilise their existing V Power, European, product to better effect in the UK....

Old 07 August 2006, 03:16 PM
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v interested to know if this is true
Old 07 August 2006, 03:19 PM
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This may be why my knocklink has failed to show even a flicker for a few weeks.....
Old 07 August 2006, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gaz c
shell garage at watnall kimberley m8.

i would advise giving them a call before you go to make sure they have some.

if you want there number i will pm it to you.
Oh no! and oh yes! all at the same time! LOL
Yes to fuel, but does that mean i have to allow another 10 mins for "questions" from our top till person at that garage?
Hahaha.
Hmm, but it may be worth the grilling i get to buy the fuel!
Old 07 August 2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MaDaSS
Oh no! and oh yes! all at the same time! LOL
Yes to fuel, but does that mean i have to allow another 10 mins for "questions" from our top till person at that garage?
Hahaha.
Hmm, but it may be worth the grilling i get to buy the fuel!
lol hes like that with every one then. i call him billy. (billy no mates) lol.
Old 07 August 2006, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
My local fill up also couldn't/didn't know what I was on about when I asked this question BUT there is no doubt that the fuel "seems" to be better,
I have to agree, either all the cars I've mapped in the past few weeks have been particularly 'good-uns' or the fuel has improved, I suspect the latter.

Andy
Old 08 August 2006, 12:14 AM
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Think i'm going to ask at my shell gagage tomorrow! My UK Turbo seems to have far more torque these last few days (before I even saw this thread).
Just had an oil change today (mobil 1 15w50) and she pulls like a good'en!
Old 08 August 2006, 11:03 AM
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I have to agree too, in the last week or so mine has seemed better all round,
I only ever fill up with Optimax. In the last week even without driving like a pansy I have got just over 200 miles to 3/4 tank.
Need to fill up tonight so will quizz the guy in the garage too
Old 08 August 2006, 12:10 PM
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Just filled up at my local shell garage and asked the guy there about new
optimax and he told me i just filled up with it.
seems their trying to keep it hush, hush till september when the advertising starts.i asked if it was 102ron and he said no but its more than 98
He could'nt give me an exact ron rating.
Old 08 August 2006, 12:25 PM
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My local garage (Grantham, Lincs) said their Optimax pumps are now filled with the new stuff 100-102 RON and still at 101.9 litre .

Wolfie.
Old 08 August 2006, 06:56 PM
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Filled up with Optimax for the first time in a while having used Tesco 99RON.

Did a cross-country run early this morning with very little if any traffic.

Car was as sweet as a nut and very quick. Really torquey and sweet when revved. It is definately different that is for sure (and the brakes even worked )

Rannoch
Old 08 August 2006, 07:13 PM
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I have to agree, either all the cars I've mapped in the past few weeks have been particularly 'good-uns' or the fuel has improved, I suspect the latter.
Andy, is this a roundabout way of saying you think my car is crap
Old 08 August 2006, 07:15 PM
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Now i have to go waste all my fuel so i can meet my 'mate' at Watnall then so i can fill up with the better stuff! LOL.
I shall have my earplugs at the ready
PS 'waste' means to aimlessly thrash around country lanes whilst grinning from ear to ear and slamming my insides around whilst braking!!
Old 08 August 2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MaDaSS
Now i have to go waste all my fuel so i can meet my 'mate' at Watnall then so i can fill up with the better stuff! LOL.
I shall have my earplugs at the ready
PS 'waste' means to aimlessly thrash around country lanes whilst grinning from ear to ear and slamming my insides around whilst braking!!


so i might see you around moorgreen then.

GO AND FILL HER UP WITH SOME GOOD STUFF.

you might be lucky it could be his day off. but then again i think he lives there. lol
Old 08 August 2006, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rossyboy
Andy, is this a roundabout way of saying you think my car is crap
lol, not at all mate They have all gone like 'good uns' or 'very good uns'
Usually there is the odd one thats reluctant to make good power.......but not recently

Andy
Old 08 August 2006, 09:52 PM
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So is there still no 'official' word yet?
Old 09 August 2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chelspeed
ukjesters you've put two and two together and made five. Shell's premier fuel in Germany has been called V-power for a couple of years now, it's 100 octane if I recall correctly. Makes sense for them to have a europe wide name so when (if) they uprate optimax in the UK I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes known as V-power or similar.
They call it the same in Ireland too.
Old 09 August 2006, 12:29 PM
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Another point, is that I dont feel comfortable with remapping MY car for the new Optimax until I know specifically what the octane level is and even then I may thing twice.

If it is a clear 2 ron (or more) higher than normal Optimax, what happens when you can't get hold of Optimax (which can be hard when travelling). You either have to use Octane Boosters, or you have to put in normal SUL, which may be a fair bit lower ron rating and cause you issues with pulling the ECU right back and even then may still cause the onset of DET. Not specifically knowing how much the ECU can compensate I am not entirely sure.... but if you are running fairly high boost and mapped to that on a specific fuel grade, going back 2ron is a fair amount (I already pick up more noise, switching between zero noise with the old optimax compared to BP SUL).

Just a thought........ any tuner care to comment on their thoughts about this?

Regards,
Shaun.
Old 09 August 2006, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by webmaster
Another point, is that I dont feel comfortable with remapping MY car for the new Optimax until I know specifically what the octane level is and even then I may thing twice.

If it is a clear 2 ron (or more) higher than normal Optimax, what happens when you can't get hold of Optimax (which can be hard when travelling). You either have to use Octane Boosters, or you have to put in normal SUL, which may be a fair bit lower ron rating and cause you issues with pulling the ECU right back and even then may still cause the onset of DET. Not specifically knowing how much the ECU can compensate I am not entirely sure.... but if you are running fairly high boost and mapped to that on a specific fuel grade, going back 2ron is a fair amount (I already pick up more noise, switching between zero noise with the old optimax compared to BP SUL).

Just a thought........ any tuner care to comment on their thoughts about this?

Regards,
Shaun.
Agreed.

When mine is re-mapped i want it done for 98 ron, so that if i can only get 97 it won't be too bad, but if i do put 100-102 in then i might get a tiny bit extra
Old 09 August 2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
I have to agree, either all the cars I've mapped in the past few weeks have been particularly 'good-uns' or the fuel has improved, I suspect the latter.

Andy
Andy,

is it true that the new Optimax has been modelled on the Scottimax you have been using over recent years

Rannoch
Old 09 August 2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by webmaster
Another point, is that I dont feel comfortable with remapping MY car for the new Optimax until I know specifically what the octane level is and even then I may thing twice.

If it is a clear 2 ron (or more) higher than normal Optimax, what happens when you can't get hold of Optimax (which can be hard when travelling). You either have to use Octane Boosters, or you have to put in normal SUL, which may be a fair bit lower ron rating and cause you issues with pulling the ECU right back and even then may still cause the onset of DET. Not specifically knowing how much the ECU can compensate I am not entirely sure.... but if you are running fairly high boost and mapped to that on a specific fuel grade, going back 2ron is a fair amount (I already pick up more noise, switching between zero noise with the old optimax compared to BP SUL).

Just a thought........ any tuner care to comment on their thoughts about this?

Regards,
Shaun.
I don't see what the problem is. Once Shell has confirmed the new RON rating and it goes UK wide (presumably it will), you'll get wherever you go. Why not just carry a couple of bottles of octane booster in the glove box, like me, just for emergencies.

David
Old 09 August 2006, 10:38 PM
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You don't need remaps for new ages do you? I thought ECU quickly self adjusts even if you alternate between 95RON and 102RON. Mine's a fully standard spec. MY01.
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Originally Posted by pmarch bugeye
You don't need remaps for new ages do you? I thought ECU quickly self adjusts even if you alternate between 95RON and 102RON. Mine's a fully standard spec. MY01.
No, what's being discussed here is heavily modified cars. If yours is standard it will be fine on lower grade fuel. Obviously it will run much better on higher octane fuel.
Old 09 August 2006, 10:59 PM
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anybody know if this has been phased in around the north east??

filled mine up today and it felt quite perky, althougb i put it down to being freshly painted and more slippy through the air
Old 09 August 2006, 11:05 PM
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Will have to check the local 2 shell garages.
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Surely there is no way this stuff is going to be 102/3 RON, 100RON maximum I reckon.

It just doesn't make sense, if BP are selling 102RON for £2.30 a litre why would Shell sell the equivialnt for less than half.

It's almost certianly a European consolidatation, ie V Power.

BTW I hope I'm wrong and it is 102RON
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Funny enough, only yesterday I filled up on the M3 on the way back from plymouth, and when I did a full-throttle burst when back on the motorway, I thought the transmission was going to break on kick-down!

I actually commented at the time to the other half that it felt like a good batch of fuel and went on to bore her to tears with calorific value and degradation etc

This is in an RS6 btw.

Lets hope it really is 100+ ron!


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