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Old 10 August 2006, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
We all agree the extremists who throw insults at us should be at very least deported, nobody is denying that... But the point a few of us are trying to make is that not every Muslim in the country is an extremist....
True, but you must see why people are so annoyed with those extremists living in this country. Just look at Captain Hook (can't remember his real name) he closed off the streets (With Police protection) and ranted on about how the West should be burned etc, etc, while all the time living in a 5 Bedroomed house in London, given too him free of charge by the British Government ???? Yes, he's in jail now, but how long did it take him to get there. While he was in jail he got a prison guard sacked, because he placed his prayer mat right in front of the cell door, and when a prison guard walked in to give him food, he stood on Hooks prayer mat. What happened? he got the prison guard sacked for a breach of his human right, and he'd never been soo insulted by having his prayer Matt stood on.

Plus, he has his own private nurse, to wipe his fat @rse, at a cost of £20k a year.

No other country would allow that to happen. Go to Irag or similar and try that, and they'll just shoot you. They know they can get away with it here. That's what's so ******* annoying.
Old 10 August 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
No other country would allow that to happen. Go to Irag or similar and try that, and they'll just shoot you. They know they can get away with it here. That's what's so ******* annoying.
Well if they can get away with it you cant blame them sometimes, maybe you need to look at why theyre allowed to get away with it. i.e. the pillocks in charge.
Old 10 August 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I dont need to tell you, for a start Im not part of the government intelligence. But its clear to say that the governments intelligence is good enough to weed out the 21 arrested today simply because they didnt get to blow any bl00dy planes up....

Is it just me whos not getting this
So that's ok is it? The fact that 25% or thereabouts of British Muslims sympathise with the terrorist activities, we can all sleep easy and put total trust in the security forces to stop them before they do anything again can we? If that's good enough for you, i'm happy for you. Personally, i want my country back.
Old 10 August 2006, 02:58 PM
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Random point to do with attitudes of Muslims in this country and Pakistan,

The cricket against Pakistan the last few days, Saj Mamhood, 2nd generation british of pakistani decent and cousin ofbritish boxer Amir Khan was booed and jeered off the field by the pakistani crowd who considered him to be a traitor as he was playing for the 'enemy'

Now that attitude reflects badly on the pakistani/muslim population, when we as a country hold these 2 young lads up as sporting heros of Britain. I think that our british attitude as a whole is very liberal and open minded to do that in the current climate, when men of their generation are plotting to bomb us, yet we as a nation do not retaliate against all young muslims. Thats the way it should be, it sets us apart from the radicals and the extremists that we see on the news all the time.

For sure something should be done about the extremeists and the supporters of the extreme muslims and terrorists, but not at the expense of the everage brit losing our tolerance and good nature that i feel sets us apart from other nations

just my ( kinda unrelated ) 2pence worth
Old 10 August 2006, 03:14 PM
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Imagine the uproar if a white man was to blow up a Mosk somewhere in Britain ????
Old 10 August 2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Imagine the uproar if a white man was to blow up a Mosk somewhere in Britain ????
Nope, Im struggling to imagine it. Why dont you volunteer to be the first and then we can see what uproar would happen....

Personally I see street riots again. None of this pansying about we see from our government....
Old 10 August 2006, 03:21 PM
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Hold on, hold on. "Pansying about"? So you DO want something more than just relying on our security forces weeding out terrorist suspects? I'm confused now.
Old 10 August 2006, 03:33 PM
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NO. You misinterpret what Im saying... I agree with part of what you have to say, Ive made it pretty clear I dont disagree with some of your views.... When I say pansying about, Im talking about with how the radicals are treated once we know who they are etc... Like Stilover has said about Abu Hamza al-Masri, People like this should serve their time and then be deported straight away... I would go as far to say people like that want to be put down aswell.... Im not saying, like you, Kick anyone whos not British out of Britain etc...
Old 10 August 2006, 03:38 PM
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But they ARE British
Old 10 August 2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
But they ARE British
Is that your get out quote when you have no reasoned debate to come back with?
Old 10 August 2006, 03:42 PM
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No Dave, don't make cheap shots. I'm just bored discussing it with you now. No offence.
Old 10 August 2006, 03:44 PM
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Ok then sorry, lets turn it around, you and a few others are the ones who want something doing about ALL muslims in this country because they cant integrate, whether theyre British or not.... Am I right up to now? So what do you propose we do? (apart from saying dont let them fly....?) Forgetting todays activities, yesterdays discussion about What Muslims Want. How do we sort the situation out then?
Old 10 August 2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Well if they can get away with it you cant blame them sometimes, maybe you need to look at why theyre allowed to get away with it. i.e. the pillocks in charge.
Every time the Government has tried to bring in new legislation to clamp down on terrorist/immigrants/Asylum seekers etc, the PC brigade get on their high horses spouting "Human rights".

You are right though, the government are also to blame, for letting the PC brigade win. The other Pillocks in the houses of Parliment block Legislation as well, just to make the current Government look bad, so they can then say "If we were in charge, things would be different" but would they? No, because Labour would then just block all the legistations the Tories tried to bring in.

Only in Britain.

The Government should just clamp down hard, **** the PC Brigade, and get this country back on track.
Old 10 August 2006, 03:47 PM
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one thing muslims have done to this country is split it down the middle as to public opinion

they undermine everything im afraid and create more soft-***** like 2000tLondon

if uk muslims dont speak out or condemn unequivocally anything that is done in the name of islam then what is the majority of the british population led to believe

they use what is going on in the middle east to justify everything and im speaking about moderate uk muslims too

ask them about suicide bombing and they might condemn it BUT they also condemn the innocent muslims being murdered by western 'terrorist' foreign policy

Lord Shrek.....muslim kamikazes are here to stay
Old 10 August 2006, 03:47 PM
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But we voted them in, not just once either.... You have all been saying things need to be clamped down on, but as Ive said in other threads why dont you go and do something about it? We always seem happy to moan but we dont want to take any action ourselves.
Old 10 August 2006, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
But we voted them in, not just once either.... You have all been saying things need to be clamped down on, but as Ive said in other threads why dont you go and do something about it? We always seem happy to moan but we dont want to take any action ourselves.
Probably because, unlike Muslims, we'd be arrested and charged with inciting racial Hatred.
Old 10 August 2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Probably because, unlike Muslims, we'd be arrested and charged with inciting racial Hatred.
Muslims were arrested and charged with inciting racial hatred after the post 7/7 demonstrations.
Old 10 August 2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drunken Bungle *****
Muslims were arrested and charged with inciting racial hatred after the post 7/7 demonstrations.

And were home in time for tea.
Old 10 August 2006, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
And were home in time for tea.
Tea, tiffin and a bacon sandwich..........
Old 10 August 2006, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Statistics show that almost 1 in 4 sympathises with extremists. That puts a large number of muslims in a position where they could easily become 'radicalised'.

You really are full of **** clearly that survey is dubious in the least and was clearly conducted by people with very little knowledge of Islam. For starters the Islamic comunity is divided into a variety of sects some of which do not believe in the hijab or in sharia law in any way. This clearly indicates to me that the survey was massively skewed towards Sunni ghetto communities which do not represent the entirity of the Muslim population of the UK.
Old 10 August 2006, 05:10 PM
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This country is too soft full stop.

Enough is enough. I am no racist but my vote will be going to the BNP, no I dont want the BNP in, however I want the big 3 to take note.

J
Old 10 August 2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
But we voted them in, not just once either....
Speak for yourself.
Old 10 August 2006, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lordlucan
This country is too soft full stop.

Enough is enough. I am no racist but my vote will be going to the BNP, no I dont want the BNP in, however I want the big 3 to take note.

J
The big 3 will all stand there.... take note.... make promises...... then do exactly what they always do....... **** ALL.... My votes going straight to the Monster Raving Looney Party........
Old 10 August 2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lordlucan
This country is too soft full stop.

Enough is enough. I am no racist but my vote will be going to the BNP, no I dont want the BNP in, however I want the big 3 to take note.
Me too.
Old 10 August 2006, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Speak for yourself.
Sorry, I was speaking in a general view of the population. I didnt vote them in, the word we was used meaning the country...
Old 10 August 2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
My votes going straight to the Monster Raving Looney Party........
And there was me thinking you were the leader
Old 10 August 2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
And there was me thinking you were the leader
One day maybe..............
Old 10 August 2006, 05:36 PM
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this should work as it worked to stop the white male going to the world cup

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Originally Posted by unclebuck
In the light of current events (assuming they are in fact 'fact') here's a sensible policy suggestion for the 'government' to consider:



Common sense IMO
Old 10 August 2006, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I dont need to tell you, for a start Im not part of the government intelligence. But its clear to say that the governments intelligence is good enough to weed out the 21 arrested today simply because they didnt get to blow any bl00dy planes up....

Is it just me whos not getting this
You're not alone Dave, but I think anything other than a view from the very far right, or from the back of a cave, won't be tolerated here........
Old 10 August 2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Shrek
one thing muslims have done to this country is split it down the middle as to public opinion

they undermine everything im afraid and create more soft-***** like 2000tLondon



Lord Shrek.....muslim kamikazes are here to stay
Shrek, you tool, I'm not a soft-****, and your continued use of a thumb to keep your post's "light-hearted" are wasted on me. Although I don't have to justify myself, I would consider myself to the right, politically. I will not tolerate the bull**** that we have to endure with the terrorists. However, I refuse to let dim-witted fools like you drag this country into a ****-esque existence!

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