Sbradley

No. I specifically said I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end...

Sadly Whitehall decided our C130s didn't need armoured fuel cells or the fire supression systems fitted as standard to civilian aircraft. So a AAA hit in the wing tank (which is what the report suggests happened) will basically guarantee a fire and resultant critical failure sooner or later.

Yes they did, but a Stinger won't stop a 747 or an Airbus, as I said in the earlier post. Launcheers supplied then will probably also have flat batteries (not as easy to deal with as you may think) and had an even smaller warhead than the current version.

Plus Stinger is notoriously ineffective in the forward arc of the target, despite the PR to the contrary, so you need to tailchase which means the target is already airborne and outside the critical phase. Once you've got some height you can trade for energy then you can get away with a hell of a lot...

Not dismissing the thread completely, but it needs to be taken in perspective...

SB

Apparition

Does no one feel the slightest bit grateful that these ..........I won't call them people.....were aprehended before they were able to carry out their atrocities?
I can't help but envisage the resulting carnage ,if they hadn't been stopped.
I for one feel immensly grateful to our police etc for a job well done.
Yve

Sbradley

Yve, I think (hope) that goes without saying.

But well said anyway

SB

sti-04!!

I am flying to Malaga tomorrow, i was meant to fly from Glasgow to Heathrow & then onto Malaga. I managed to change my plans to fly from Prestwick to Dublin then from Dublin to Malaga, its going to add a few hours onto my journey but i feel safer for doing it.
I just cant believe that these people exist, dirty terrorist scum

OllyK

Providing they come up with more evidence than they did with the Notting Hill group - sure.

brihoppy

got to give you some credit for your reply there sb...whered you get that kind of gen...?!

i know sams are over rated, especially after the last gulf war...we could hear the patriots launching at the scuds coming into kuwait and we felt pretty good about it until we found out how many had actually missed...?!

speedking

So to restate the question.

We should have known about this type of risk previously. We had no countermeasures in place. Now that some potential perpetrators have been apprehended (reducing the risk) we have implemented a great deal of additional security. Why?

brihoppy

rearrange these words to make a popular phrase...

horse, after, the, door, bolted, stable, lock, the, has...

Sbradley

Brihoppy, I'm an ex pilot and still do consultancy work in that area... I guess I do have a certain degree of inside info.

Won't stop SN experts from knowing more, of course

SB

mart360

so what about the stuff you buy airside? or is that now taboo! in which case theres going to be an awfull lot of redundant people very soon..

prehaps we ought to have muslim only flights. that way should they decide to grab the 40 tarts (modern woman see ) no one else is affected.

or better still, let them fly, serve them liquid explosives from the drinks trolley, and let them get on with it, give them marks for artistic merit, the most bits off in one pop etc. prehaps the hostess (who would be one of the 24) could give tips on what cocktails to mix, then they could turn it into a race. first one down wins? just think with the two pilots hell bent on going in, the explosives amatuers in the back, and the sas around the airport with sam missiles it would be bloody good viewing.. Sky could have the rights, and a video game in time for christmas


Mart

brihoppy

ex military or civil out of interest...?

Sbradley

Military. Helicopters (Sea King, Lynx and Wessex) in the Royal marines then consulting on all sorts of interesting stuff afterwards....

SB

brihoppy