Originally Posted by StickyMicky

if they do not like it, why do they bother?


i dont like sprouts, but i dont setup camp on a sprout farm and start killing the farmers.

i stay away from the sprouts

sprouts are the REAL problem

Originally Posted by Diablo

But what if you are a pea on that sprout farm, and the farmers then send off their troops to the pea farm and start killing all the peas?

Can't believe we're going here

Originally Posted by Diablo

But what if you are a pea on that sprout farm, and the farmers then send off their troops to the pea farm and start killing all the peas?

Can't believe we're going here

Originally Posted by dharbige

Is this theoretical "british born muslim" joing the "official" armed force of those countries, fighting in uniform in a declared war according to the rules of the Geneva Convention? Or have they just picked up an AK-47 and gone around shooting "enemy" soldiers?
If the former, fair enough. I don't think he should be treated like a terrorist.
If the latter, he IS a terrorist.


Fighting for the IDF, in uniform, is not a terrorist activity. The killing of innocent lebanese and palestinians is deplorable, regretable but not an "atrocity". Non-combatants always suffer in war zones.


If they stand for the total eradication of another people, then I don't see that this justifies their actions.

Personally, I think Israel has seriously over-reacted in the current crisis. However, there was certainly SOMETHING to react to and they are by no means totally to blame for the current situation. Neither are they totally innocent.

It seems to me that there are too many followers of the Muslim faith who support (or at least do not criticise) the actions of other so-called Muslims, just because they call themselves Muslims. To me, there is nothing "Muslim" about blowing up an airplane, shooting poeple with AK-47s, or lobbing rockets into populated areas. These people are terrorists, nothing more, and they don't deserve anybody's support.

Originally Posted by KiwiGTI

But the allied forces aren't going off and killing Muslims offensively, or with evil motives (notwithstanding the ulterior motives of the government)

The US/UK forces generally don't kill out of hatred. In fact if they weren't there the Muslims do a pretty good job killing each other.

Originally Posted by KiwiGTI

Pretty low whoever did that, there's arguing and being troll but that's just being a wnaker.

Originally Posted by Diablo

Christ, are you all still at it?

ANYONE who knows Glasgow will know that a Muslim who's mates are both catholic and protestant is about as far rom being either racist or a bigot as you could hope to get.

There is a lot of unhealthy fear and loathing on this thread, and its not coming from the Muslim.

In trying to discredit moses as being some sort of radical terrorrist, all you are doing is giving evidence as to why certain sections of the muslim community hate the ideology of the west so much. Of course, you'll never see that because you are so wrapped up in your own blinkered worlds.

Perhaps if you would think before posting, you would realise that its not moses who is acting the tit here.

No ******* wonder we now have muslim terrorrists active in the UK. And no ******* wonder they base themselves in England.

Apparently 75 % of "spectator" readers polled (presumably, again, English, felt that the UK's foreign policy was not tough enough, and that we were at war with the terrorists.

Clearly 75% are a representative cross section of just how dumb people are in general.

You can't go pissing on someone elses parade and not expect backlash. Whether its right or wrong to go pissing in the first palce is irrelevant as to whether the backlash will occur.

The sooner people start to wake up to that the better.

D

(White, Scottish, hetrosexual, Christian (Protestant) and proud of all of that who thought he was "intollerant" until reading some of the ****e spouted on here)

Originally Posted by moses

thanks diablo, i woz so hurt with my daughters picture used like that and reading your post has made me feel better, God bless u bros, we need more people like yourself in the world, i appreciate it bud

i feel so fecking hurt, i can take anything thrown at me, not my lil baby , she is my heart, if i find out who it woz, i wish i can get his address and i swear i will teach him a lesson like no other


thanks alot mate, i owe u one

Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt

I'm all for that as well............. I think you're both a couple of *****, but that photoshop was OTT, and whoever did create & post it should be very ashamed by it.......

Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt

I'm all for that as well............. I think you're both a couple of *****, but that photoshop was OTT, and whoever did create & post it should be very ashamed by it.......

Originally Posted by _RIP_

With that comment you'd be as well wearing a sign saying, 'yes I did it' or 'yes I agree with it'. Just ashamed?

Originally Posted by sociopath

Personally I think it's funny as ****. Just wish I'd thought of it first!

Originally Posted by sociopath

Personally I think it's funny as ****. Just wish I'd thought of it first!

Originally Posted by dsmith

But moses thinks suicide bombers are the defenders of his religion and in the frontline against the evil zionists. He asks god to bless them regularly. Why would he be upset if his daughter became one ?!

Or are sucide bombers OK - so long as its somewhere else ?

Originally Posted by KiwiGTI

But the allied forces aren't going off and killing Muslims offensively, or with evil motives (notwithstanding the ulterior motives of the government)

The US/UK forces generally don't kill out of hatred. In fact if they weren't there the Muslims do a pretty good job killing each other.

Originally Posted by sociopath

Personally I think it's funny as ****. Just wish I'd thought of it first!

Originally Posted by Lucifer

Be careful, your name will be on Diablo's list

Originally Posted by Scooby.Newbie

I never read that at all, I read that he still did not agree with what they stand for but was humble enough to put his differences aside to agree that some tactics are a little too low on a public forum where peoples feelings are real about what they hold dear, but thats just my interpretation.

Originally Posted by unclebuck

Some say.....


His poos are white ...and that when you meet him, he will sniff your genitals.


All we know is..... he's called....




The Dogman.

Originally Posted by _RIP_

and pause

No, the word ashamed, look, no really look.

Originally Posted by moses

plz no trolling, this is a question to the sensible people plz


the question is


lads, if a british born muslim see's injustice, but goes to a different country, lets say palestine or afghanistan or chechnya and fights against destruction, if he is caught, they will call him a terrorist and lock him up


but if a british born jew, whos parents and grandparents were jewish too and have nothing to do with israel only that its a jewish state so they can go their for hols, if he can join the idf an israeli army not british and commit atrocities and kill innocent lebanese or palestinians

how come thats allowed and he aint even an israel but a brit, born here

i dont understand that, why the double standards, also we have ex army fighters the british army ones who go to the african states and get paid to be mercenaries and kill people, innocent or bad

they r allowed and only difference is, they do it for money and the muslim youth see atrocities happening against the muslims and r doing it for justice and dont get paid for it, rather do it for what they stand for

plz explain, why the double standards

cheers