Where does your job figure in the earnings league?
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Training Consultant ,Director of my own ltd company and IT Technical. no way i earn the figures stated in this. I am comfortable but could alway do with earning a bit more
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Originally Posted by davegtt
But Oldham/Stockport etc is not the most expensive places to live is it?
Im not even on the list. I earn about the national average pay and live in a nice cheap part of the country. All counts for **** as far as Im concerned. On person gets paid x the other doing the same job gets paid y. Only London gets any sort of coverage when it comes to stuff like this, the rest of England is neither here nor there.
Im not even on the list. I earn about the national average pay and live in a nice cheap part of the country. All counts for **** as far as Im concerned. On person gets paid x the other doing the same job gets paid y. Only London gets any sort of coverage when it comes to stuff like this, the rest of England is neither here nor there.
True - when you look at the cost of living, My GF lives in Brighton and it is feckin' horrendus down there.
The saving grace is i live in a nice 3 bed semi - driveway for 4 cars bought in a nice area 8 years ago for 49k
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Originally Posted by RayC
well i'm a design engineer, with a degree, in the Northwest and i'm on £29,400, with overtime it came to £37k last tax year, anyone want to give me a job for £35k+? i've got 5 years as Automotive Engineer for a major manufacturer in Chassis design and testing
my Mrs who also has a degree with 4 years experience in direct marketing is on £18k
i think a pinch of salt with the findings is required
my Mrs who also has a degree with 4 years experience in direct marketing is on £18k
i think a pinch of salt with the findings is required
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I am an Engineer with a degree in Electronics and on my way to becoming chartered - I dont even earn the average UK salary - I thought it was actaully more like £22,000 - Not £28,000. I need to get my finger out and actually get my chartership - I spend too much time doing up houses though.
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lol...why should a flash car be a guide?
I earn well over 6 figs and have done for years (admit i have a large family) yet we have one car, a Ford Galaxy! I could buy a 911 but why if i dont need it?
Its no different to assuming anyone on £28k must live in a box!
I earn well over 6 figs and have done for years (admit i have a large family) yet we have one car, a Ford Galaxy! I could buy a 911 but why if i dont need it?
Its no different to assuming anyone on £28k must live in a box!
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Originally Posted by logiclee
Is that a "title" engineer or are you a qualified chartered engineer?
The term Engineer is now used too easily IMO, you now get people who have done a four week tech course calling themselves electrical engineers.
Chartered Engineer and registration with the institute takes about six years and an engineering degree.
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The term Engineer is now used too easily IMO, you now get people who have done a four week tech course calling themselves electrical engineers.
Chartered Engineer and registration with the institute takes about six years and an engineering degree.
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When I took my first job as a student, I had a training manager who was very keen that I log all my work experience and submit it to the IEE with a view to becoming a CEng. I've now been in the industry 9 years, had several jobs and a dozen interviews, and he's the ONLY person who has shown even the slightest interest in whether or not I'm an IEE member.
Needless to say, I'm not. I have a good degree and excellent experience as a design engineer - and if any prospective employer were really interested in whether I'd been through the IEE's bureaucracy as well, it would set alarm bells ringing.
Maybe it's also relevant to point out that the only CEng I know is a mature gentleman working as an apps engineer - and that the company I was working for who wanted me to become a CEng myself has now been taken over and the site closed down and moved abroad.
There's definitely something not quite right about how they've classified engineers anyway - how come, for example, there's one category 'Engineers (electrical/electronics)' @ £24,890, and another for 'Engineers (electronics)' @ £38,141. Is dealing with the odd electrical machine really that bad for the wallet? Or has one figure been diluted by washing machine repairmen calling themselves engineers?
(Ironically it's just this sort of rant, over and over again about the status of engineers, that I found used to fill the IEE newspaper).
Where was the entry in the survey for 'Technician' anyway? Is it a rude word or something? Nurses get their own category, they don't have to call themselves doctors.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Average earnings across all jobs were £28,210 in 2005, according to the figures from the Office for National Statistics. So where does your job rank?
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How the hell can anyone actually live on the Average Wage??
Pete
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How the hell can anyone actually live on the Average Wage??
Pete
I thought the Average was £38k
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
It really was a tonque in cheek comment I know several millionaires that don't really 'show' their wealth. My original point stands though that Scoobynet seems pretty affluent with many members boasting incomes far in excess of the average.
If you were well heeled and wanted to show it ,you wouldn't buy a Subaru.If you were well heeled and didn't want to show it you wouldn't buy a Subaru.
What are all these wealthy people doing with scoobies?
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Those who consult > #1 on that pissy list
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Scientific researcher and I'm earning significantly less than the stipulated figure, which is -in turn- less than what a train driver earns!!
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I've just started volunteering as a paramedic as I'm in the US on a non-working visa, which actually cost's me money to do.......
A friend of mine brought home over £3m in bonuses last year....... Assume that is a 1?
A friend of mine brought home over £3m in bonuses last year....... Assume that is a 1?
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
Consultancy - If you're not part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
This, and other demoralising quotes, available on www.despair.com
Fantastic website!!
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
What have you found to be the benefit in becoming a CEng? It's certainly not the norm in my area (board level design).
I work on a variety of gear from PLC's and small drive inverters to massive DC drives and high voltage switchgear upto 33kV. Some of our gear is installed in very hazardous environments. I have a team of electricians who work under me and I'm obviously responsible for their H&S as well as budgets etc.
To do my job from a piece of paper point of view I only actually need a time served apprenticeship, BNC in electrical engineering and NEBOSH.
Any other qualifications have been used as a lever for promotion as well as my ability, I've worked for the same company for 21years and my pay somewhat reflects the specif nature of our work and the difficulty of bringing in an outsider.
Or has one figure been diluted by washing machine repairmen calling themselves engineers?
Where was the entry in the survey for 'Technician' anyway? Is it a rude word or something? Nurses get their own category, they don't have to call themselves doctors.
Where was the entry in the survey for 'Technician' anyway? Is it a rude word or something? Nurses get their own category, they don't have to call themselves doctors.
Cheers
Lee
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Originally Posted by logiclee
Yep everyone calls themself an engineer nowdays, a friend of my wife is a cleaning lady for the Dr's surgery and her job title is Domestic Engineer.
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
There really are loads of people on Scoobynet claiming some pretty high incomes. Why aren't you on 911.net or something?! Do you all p*ss it up against a wall. I earn just under the current UK average (according to this thread) and have a mortgage, reasonable car and a reasonable lifestyle. What the hell do you lot do with your cash?
**Admittedly I have no kids**
***that I know about ***
**Admittedly I have no kids**
***that I know about ***
A couple both earning average wage would have more income coming into the family budget.
Fortunately we have a small £40k mortgage and have a diesel car each.
Financial plan is to be debt free including mortgage by 45 (37 now). We get a break away at least once a month and that will increase once the mortgage is paid.
I've already done the big/fast car thing. I enjoy driving and I'm still an enthusiast who loves motorsport, but I'm not wasting any more money on fuel and insurance when modern TDi' are good to drive and just as quick in 99% of on road conditions.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by logiclee
What no one has mentioned is the money that their partner brings in. My wife only brings in about £6k and I earn around £45k.
A couple both earning average wage would have more income coming into the family budget.
Fortunately we have a small £40k mortgage and have a diesel car each.
Financial plan is to be debt free including mortgage by 45 (37 now). We get a break away at least once a month and that will increase once the mortgage is paid.
I've already done the big/fast car thing. I enjoy driving and I'm still an enthusiast who loves motorsport, but I'm not wasting any more money on fuel and insurance when modern TDi' are good to drive and just as quick in 99% of on road conditions.
Cheers
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A couple both earning average wage would have more income coming into the family budget.
Fortunately we have a small £40k mortgage and have a diesel car each.
Financial plan is to be debt free including mortgage by 45 (37 now). We get a break away at least once a month and that will increase once the mortgage is paid.
I've already done the big/fast car thing. I enjoy driving and I'm still an enthusiast who loves motorsport, but I'm not wasting any more money on fuel and insurance when modern TDi' are good to drive and just as quick in 99% of on road conditions.
Cheers
Lee
My wife takes out about 40k per year
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As a political comment:
I feel traditional design/mechanical engineering inc electronics is dwindling in the UK.
I am glad I retire in 6 years time as the profession I have loved for so long, new product design, is doomed at grass roots level. This is a company that designs,makes and markets it's own ideas, the proper way to engineer!
Getting very rare now.
Mind you, a bloody fortune to be made in China!
Good luck to all engineers!
Graham
I feel traditional design/mechanical engineering inc electronics is dwindling in the UK.
I am glad I retire in 6 years time as the profession I have loved for so long, new product design, is doomed at grass roots level. This is a company that designs,makes and markets it's own ideas, the proper way to engineer!
Getting very rare now.
Mind you, a bloody fortune to be made in China!
Good luck to all engineers!
Graham
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Friend of mine is a production engineer for large company, he's currently in china all summer setting up a new factory there where they will eventually move all production to. Think he's staying on there too and living the life of riley.