Maz

iTrader: (34)

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So what you're saying Pete is most all singing all dancing products are just marketing hyperbole! Surely the general public isn't so stupid!

corradoboy

st3v3

No but the likes of Pete are.

If he was a true Engineer,he would understand that you are paying for the technology that goes in to the refining of the oil and the additives that help disipate the heat build up that can/might cause a premature ending to your engine,not for some raw ****e that flow's from his mouth...i mean from the ground.

Pete you need to get out more and i'm thinking or renaming the "**** link" to the Petelink.

What do you reckon ?

Maz

iTrader: (34)

I see the irony was lost on you

pslewis

I reckon that you haven't got an original thought in your body, thats what I'm thinking!

Pete

pslewis

So, basically, what the morons here are saying is that Subaru don't know their Oil from their Elbow-Grease??

YEAH, RIGHT!!

Like I said - I will be lubricating my engine with what SUBARU recommend

Pete

st3v3

So your not a true engineer then and you dont recognise the effort and technology that goes in to oil nowadays..i thourght so.

Back under your bridge Troll and stay there.

andythejock01wrx

I think petie might be having his evening nap right now.

st3v3

He needs it.

Some of the facts are, if you put your car on the track,you will more than likely see that a semi-synthetic oil will start to lose out at about 105'c(take Magnatec for example)
If you take a Fully sythetic oil,an ester based one and they will be happy running at 125-130degc all day long, without shearing and dropping out of grade (Motul or one of the Silkolene Pros)

So there are good reasons to buy a Fully synthetic oil if you rag your car on track,or if you wish, you can stick the cheap **** in and dont rev you car past 3000rpm ever, like pslewis.

you get what you pay for simple.

pslewis

If you drive like a **** then you need ***** Oil ........................

If you drive like I do, superbly and within the cars parameters, then you don't need to waste money on **** Oil!!

Pete

Maz

iTrader: (34)

I prefer Ky Jelly meself Pete!

st3v3

which is what pslewis uses to get his own head from up his own ****

So Subaru are ***** for putting their cars in to the Rally's?
afterall this is what subaru decided their cars were good for and have proven so...your thinking is floored Pete... as normal.

RapidSeven

In my honest opinion, all it boils down to is COST. Like I said before, if we were all millionaires we'd be putting the best oil possible in our cars, and thats usually the most expensive, hence Millers/Silkolene etc. Even if were not millionaires, some of us who havent a massive budget on everything still use the best quality stuff we can, even if it dents our pocket.

Even if you pay a maximum of 50 pounds for 5 litres every 6 to 12k, its hardly breaking the bank now is it ?

Not for me anyway, it'll take me 12 months to drive 6k.

Suppose you can look at it this way, 50 quid a year in oil changes, thats 4.16 per month or 1.04 a week, including oil filter and sump plug washer.

Even if you do 2 changes a year, its still only pennies in perspective for giving your car the BEST possible oil on the market.

It makes sense Pete don't it ? ( not having a go at your good self Pete )

R7

pslewis

Yeah, like I have a fully specced Rally Car ............ you friggin' Moron!!

You really think you have the same car as Subaru rally, don't you??

You sad loser!! Ah, bless ...........

Pete

st3v3

You need to be carefull there m8,your sums are a little out..

£50 per year or £4.16 a month or .96pence a week

Ill pull you on it cos i know Pete will,because when he finds himself in a corner he highlights thing like spelling and maths as a way out of the said corner.

st3v3

Read again,did i say i have a car like the rally team,No,i said subaru have put THEIR cars in to the rally.
The fact is Pete you are a cheap skate and always have to be correct,when you clearly arn't.you are the Moron ,as you put it for not ever taking the blinkers off.

st3v3

come on pete you can do better than this,down to name calling again,lol

RapidSeven

Orr come on mate, I agree with what you say about the oil, but Pete is entilted to his opinion as is me, you and everyone else.

Surely you cant kick him in the back for it, I dont in particular agree with Pete's opinion on the oil, but Pete has his own opinion and thinks its viable, and I aint a problem with that what so ever.

This is just one of those agree to disagree subjects I think

Chill guys

R7

pslewis

So, let me get this ABSOLUTELY straight ....... do you think that YOUR Impreza is a real, special, Rally Car????

As your argument for using expensive Oil is because maybe Subaru do in their Rally cars .............. but then SUBARU recommend a cheaper Oil for the cars they sell ......

You DO think your car is a Rally car, don't you???????

Pete

st3v3

What it is Rapidseven,is that Pete is very blinkered, he believes that oil should be only of what Subaru recomemnd,any better then you are wasting your money.
Knock links are a waste of time even if they are going to save your engine.
There will always be the "**** oil change" and any one who spends £1800 to get their engine rebuilt ,when he can do it for about £400 is a nutter,when he has been proven wrong on nearly all or these subjects befor,(no i wont give you evedence pete use the search button)

st3v3

read the posts above pete,you do need to change your glasses dont you.

More on fully sythetic oil for those who want to learn more.
Synthetic motor oil costs quite a bit more than conventional oil or conventional/synthetic blends. This is because synthetic oil costs more to make. It is developed from chemical compounds called polyalphaolefins, abbreviated PAO. Its entire structure is different, making synthetic motor oil far cleaner and more stable than conventional motor oil. It is able to maintain proper viscosity, or flow, in most temperatures and under most demands.
Synthetic blends combine some of the properties of both of the other types of motor oil. Manufacturers are able to offer some of the benefits of synthetic oil while keeping the cost closer to the price range of conventional oil. Synthetic blends are not derived from the same substances as full synthetics. A synthetic blend is essentially a conventional motor oil with high performance elements added to help it burn cleaner and withstand greater temperatures.

pslewis

I would never ask for EVEDENCE ....... I may, however, ask for EVIDENCE

Pete

st3v3

Well spotted,your in the corner then Pete...now fight a bit more and you could even get out of it.

pslewis

Cut'n'Paste ................. Cut'n'Paste ................. Cut'n'Paste ................. Cut'n'Paste ................. Cut'n'Paste ................. Cut'n'Paste .................

It's not clever, it's not smart .....

Pete

RapidSeven

lol at you guys

R7

st3v3

Nor are you pete,but you think you are.

I never said anywhere that i didn't cut and paste,im just supplying info for the people who want to learn more,as i said.

Oh and by the way its "Cut and Paste" not Cut'n'Paste.

st3v3

Aw Pete, i expected a quicker reply than this,i'm off to bed, i have better things to do than listern to you yap on about "the usual ****e"

nite all.

pslewis

From The CASTROL Website ................

"Do I have to use the most expensive brand of oil?

Certainly not.

The important thing is to use the right oil for your car.

There are many specifications and standards that define oil quality and each of these was defined to meet a special requirement.

It is important to use the grade and specification of oil recommended by the manufacturer of your car.

Consult your owner's handbook for details.

Conventional motor oil will give you excellent protection.

Synthetic oil offers the ultimate in engine protection.

If you are seeking added protection for your engine, you might want to request an upgrade to synthetic motor oil when you have your oil changed, but you will pay a premium.

A semi-synthetic product will offer added protection but at a lower cost than a full-synthetic oil change.

Once you know your options, you will be better able to decide what is best for your car"

ie. DO WHAT SUBARU SAYS!! .... or waste your money!!

Pete

RapidSeven

Pete, dont mean to open a can of worms, but Magnatec I found was ****e.

Over priced waste of money, my old saph ran better on Joe's auto's recycled crap than magnatec.

I thought the oil temp and pressure gauge's were faulty when I put the magnatec in, honestly it was utter rubbish.

Unfortunately I cannot agree with what Castrol say, maybe it just wasnt good in the saph and a one off. But ive never bought it again.

R7

andythejock01wrx

Huh ?

"synthetic oil offers the ultimate in engine protection".

Isn't it worth spending another £20 every 6 months if this is the case ?

Doesn't seem much of a waste of money.