pslewis

Point I'm trying to make is that SUBARU recommend a certain oil (which can be bought for £14:99 or less).

Spending £30+ is simply buying something that makes the owner feel better - it does NOWT extra for the engine that has its Oil changed every 6 months!!

Now, for the sensitive and/or uneducated, spending extra for a warm feeling is perfectly OK - just don't try and justify it Technically because it doesn't stack up!

Pete

RapidSeven

Thats complete and utter rubbish Pete.

st3v3

It DOES do something for the engine,though,when the engine is pushed and the needle on the rev counter is up around the 6000rpm mark (or just below)for example on track, the engine makes more heat,the Fully Synthetic oil disipates the heat and the oil it's self dosn't lose it's properties.

What is there more to say about the pro's of Fully Synthetic oil,Pete are you that blind,that you can't see this?

pslewis

Who the foook takes their engine to 6000RPM????

Hopefully, no-one on here would be so chavvie

Horrendous treatment of a vehicle!!

Pete

GC8

Arent you buying top quality PAO/ester synthetic oil now Pete? At that price youd be soft not to.

Simon

st3v3

Actually thats why they put a REDLINE on the rev counter so,yes you can rev it to that if you wish,albeit the power falls away slightly before then.

So are you going to answer the question then Pete or just sit there and insult people because they dont think the same as you ?

Tidgy

come on pete ,you know you change your oil every 3k miles, you have admited it in posts before

jd5217

scoobfan

FFS Pete, you don't get it.

Motor companies don't want your cars to last for ever, they want you to
buy new models.

They rely on ***** like you using ****e oil.

Rob

lunar tick

iTrader: (2)

Someone whose peak power comes in at 6000rpm or higher - as is the case with my Andy F remapped STI

AC-scoobie

pslewis

So, clever clogs, how long does Subaru put on an engine which is run on their recommended '****e oil'??

Please send a message to Subaru and tell them that they recommend ****e oil and back it up with hard evidence ............ post their reply here along with the writ won't you??

My superior intelligence scares me sometimes!! You poor, poor, village idiots

Pete

RapidSeven

Pete, with all due respect, this thread is now becoming boring with your null replies.

I couldn't give a toss what Subaru say about oil, I listen to actual owners and experts who have experience on what the best stuff is to use, hence the original question on why this thread started.

The fact of the matter is, I now believe that your a cheap skate who wont buy the best oil ( which is the most expensive ) and you think your clever about it, just because your car runs alright with cheap 14.99 oil in doesn't automatically make everyone else's car be and run the same as yours.

You also seem to think that you have some divining right to tell everyone else that uses the best expensive oil that were stupid for doing so.

You just stick to your 14.99 stuff Pete, and stop telling us were all wrong, because know one is taking on board what you are writing, no matter what the context. All your doing is getting people's backs up.

Pete my friend this maybe harsh, buts its true - The FACT is, we know that were right, and that you think your right, but infact this may come as a suprise to you, but your so so wrong.

I think the only way this entire thread would get through to you is if ScoobyNet did a poll for all members to vote, then you'd actually see the true light of the matter.

If your going to come back at me with anything none constructive, in all due respect Pete, don't bother.

R7

st3v3

Nicely said R7

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Yes but Pete KNOWS he's right!

pslewis

Now, isn't that a funny thing??

I know I am correct too!!! Now, me being a fully qualified Engineer who studied thermofluids as well as many other Engineering areas can state quite rightly that I DO know more than you when it comes to this subject.

By all means - post your qualifications and experience and current position within a Technological area and I will consider your opinion in the same light as mine

And I will NOT believe you if you post that you are a Chartered Chemical Engineer currently working at the cutting edge of Oil Refinery Technology .... why will I not believe you? Well you and I would have agreed a lot earlier than this point in the thread!

So, my friend, with all humbleness and due respect, carry on getting stitched-up ........ if you are that scared of using Oil Subaru recommend!!

Pete

scoobfan

You ask em, your the tw*t that uses it, not me.

I use quality stuff.

Rob

RapidSeven

Pete, to be honest that reply was kinda what I was expecting to come from you, a " im better than you " reply.

I'll be honest with you Pete, I was a Mechanic for a dealers for a number of years, I worked on Renaults. I started as a school boy on work experience, then worked on a Saturday mornings and the service manager gave me a job when I was 16. I eventually progressed and suceeded in gaining my qualifications, and passed various Renault UK course's, got my testing cert and eventually gained the RTE post. ( Renault Technical Expert ) Unfortunately Pete, a couple of years ago I had to finish work with a mental illness at 27 years old. Due to condition im unable to concentrate for long periods and I forget things which took me years to learn, amongst other matters. Which im not ashamed to admit. Unfortunate for me, but can happen to anyone in all walks of life, but im on the mend and nearly there to be honest, but thats no concearn of yours or anyone else's if im being honest.

At the end of the day were talking about oil, not the internal combustion engine or explaining how a prodrive rear diff works. With you talking about what your qualified in, and CLEARLY not understanding oil, and saying you do and professing your much better than others makes me believe that you may have an illness also, and thats just coming from simple old me.

So your comment about qualifications, do I and everone else buy it ? maybe im not up there with you on a technical level, you being a top engineer and such, but a difference between me and you Pete is, unlike you, i'll never profess to be better than anyone else, and speak to others like there idiots, and I dont suffer fools gladly.


Time for my medication chaps.

R7

st3v3

You just had to come back to that same old crap,didnt you?

Your just full of **** pslewis as always,post up you qualifications seem as you always use them as "your last line of defense".
Now go back under your bridge and be a good little troll.

pslewis

Sorry to hear that - I would never take the **** out of those affected by Mental Health, if you took my posting the wrong way then I apologise (it's the other idiots I was having a pop at anyway!! )

You may be right, I may be suffering from a mental condition - everyone who knows me believe that to be the case - but, thats what makes me, me

You put the Oil you feel happy with in your car - and I will continue to put what Subaru tell me to put in mine.

I would hint that the combined intelligence of SUBARU and me should be noted

Pete

pslewis

I'm guessing that you even failed your Swimming Certificate then??

Pete

andythejock01wrx

So Pete, if there was no difference in price you'd put Corradoboy's Fuchs Ester based oil in your car rather than Comma oil ?

Tidgy

rafomsl, got your foot out your mouth yet pete????


so anyway, this 3k miles that you recomend for changing you oil pete, so let me get this straight you should change it without fail every 3k???

simpsons !

I heard that you were the village idiots apprentice!

Bil

this oil thread is massive - i threw in good old magnatec into my cossie

Dill_typeR

Quality, enjoyed a good read

I have always used sunflower oil, as its better than chip fat, and low in saturates

Jonty

To be honest Pete, I think there are a number of factors when it comes to motor oil -- all of which we can appreciate when deciding which oil to use.

Fundamentally, oil and filters are cheap -- engine repairs are expensive. The standard oil recommended by most manufacturers is based on the target market and the environment in which it resides. Yes, the standard oil will be okay but it doesn't mean that it's good for everyone or that alternative, more advanced, more expensive versions are less suitable or inferior.

Mineral oil and semi-synthetics can easily be less-expensive based on their origins, i.e. mineral base oils which are extracted from crude oil refining. You know, production costs, blah blah blah. Synthetics are all chemically produced (all man-made so more production costs) but have a more superior performance element because they cope better with heat, oxidation, and viscosity.

Granted, the prices of some fully-synth oils may be hiked up due to advertising and brand (e.g. Mobil 1) but if someone can give at least one reason as to why a specific oil is used then we should simply accept it, even if it is more expensive than the recommended flavour.

Just my opinion.

Jonts.

andythejock01wrx

Pete's getting some shut-eye by the look of it.

corradoboy

As with all things in life there are personal choices based on experience and knowledge. McDonalds is food, and is perfectly capable of sustaining life, for a while and many people eat it regularly regardless of the fact that it's crap. People buy Corsas in their millions, even though they are crap. People spend hundreds on jeans with a certain label stitched on to them in the same factory that Matalan jeans are made. Whatever you give priority to in your life you will justify the expense, and no matter how much you ramble, you will never change peoples minds.

Although I can see where Pete is coming from, on this subject I don't agree with him. There have been legal battles and much debate as to the specification and content of synthetic oils over the years which culminated in a legal victory for the cheaper brands being able to label mineral oil as synthetic just because it has some synthetic additives. The technology to create synths also moves on year by year, and just recently I was made aware that Millers CFS may be lacking behind some other brands, as an good seller that they simply keep making until demand slides.

The oil I now buy in bulk 25 litre containers works out at about £16 per oil change, and I have had verified as a superb quality, fully up to current spec, true synthetic oil. I think even Pete could justify the extra quid

pslewis

You are spot on!!

Someone HAS given one reason to use 10W-40 Semi!!!!!!!

That someone is SUBARU!!

You know?? The team that gave you your IMPREZA, the team that ploughs $Millions into research!!

Now, you can listen to an Oil salesman who has a vested interest in selling the biggest marked-up Oil .............. or, you can listen to those who know, who do and who are right!?

I take my lead from SUBARU ... you waste your money on over-rated tripe if you wish!!

Pete