Steve Irwin - Dead
04 September 2006, 09:52 AM
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Tragic, but at least he won't be able to put his kids in danger for a show any more.
If you believe my Australian relatives, his antics over there, especially with his kids, didn't endear him to as many folk as the media would have you believe.
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If you believe my Australian relatives, his antics over there, especially with his kids, didn't endear him to as many folk as the media would have you believe.
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04 September 2006, 09:54 AM
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Real pity, seemed like a good bloke, with a lot of enthusiasm, doing something in life he loved.
We cant say whether he was taunting it or not, so its wrong to assume, accidents happen, and I bet the dangerous scenes were a lot more controlled than we are privvy to seeing.
I know when he filmed snakes in South Africa, the snakes were obtained from a snake park, and were more used to being handled, and being around hmans, than "wild" snakes, I dont think the man was an idiot, he just had huge enthusiasm and passion for what he did, and an ability to portray the dangerous side of the animals he dealt with.
I admire the gy for that alone, and the work he did for wildlife, he lived the sort of life where you actually make a genuine difference, whereas I sit here making money for some fat cat, Id love a job where you make a difference especially for wildlife.
Condolences to his family, they will remember a passionate man who lived life to the full.
We cant say whether he was taunting it or not, so its wrong to assume, accidents happen, and I bet the dangerous scenes were a lot more controlled than we are privvy to seeing.
I know when he filmed snakes in South Africa, the snakes were obtained from a snake park, and were more used to being handled, and being around hmans, than "wild" snakes, I dont think the man was an idiot, he just had huge enthusiasm and passion for what he did, and an ability to portray the dangerous side of the animals he dealt with.
I admire the gy for that alone, and the work he did for wildlife, he lived the sort of life where you actually make a genuine difference, whereas I sit here making money for some fat cat, Id love a job where you make a difference especially for wildlife.
Condolences to his family, they will remember a passionate man who lived life to the full.
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Holy crap; I hoped this was a joke when I saw the thread title. I think Steve always joked that as long as it wasn't a crocodile that got him, he wouldn't mind, as if a croc was responsible, the papers would all say
"well, we told him it was just a matter of time"
Getting killed by a sting ray is just plain bad luck; they're normally very placid and only ever usually use their barbs when trodden on -even then, I can't think of another fatality resulting from a sting; it's very painful by all accounts, but should not be fatal.
Steve did so much to promote conservation and the importance of learning to appreciate and respect creatures that normally just attract fear and aversion. His love and admiration for the animal kingdom was so transparent, and his desire to do his bit to preserve endangered species was as boundless as it was admirable.
Two memories spring readily to mind, the first was Steve's expedition to find the Inland Taipan - the worlds most venomous snake. One bite from this snake contains enough venom to kill 250,000 mice!! During the course of interacting with this snake, Steve explained that it's nickname, the "fierce snake" was rather unfair as it was anything but agressive. He was laying on the floor as the snake was probing a crack in the ground for mice. As the snake emerged, she was about to move on to the next crack when she changed direction and made a beeline for Steve. At this point most people would have got up and run away, as far and fast as possible!! Steve just lay their and let her approach him. She was inches away from his face, a bite there would have been certain death, but the snake just gave a few flicks of its tongue (one of which actually made contact with Steve's face) and moved on. Steve was clearly stoked, and exclaimed, "Blimey, I just got kissed by the most venomous snake in the world- good thing she didn't like the taste!"
Steve will, no doubt, be most fondly remembered for his enthusiasm and efforts to foster some appreciation for dangerous animals, but his great love of wildlife extended to every creature - even the much less spectacular varieties. It's easy to get caught up in the headline grabbing antics with crocs etc, but what we need to remember is the respect and immense compassion for animals that drove this man. Accordingly, my other memory of Steve relates to some footage of him comforting his dog Suie (sp?). Unfortunately, the poor dog was on her way out after a very long and happy life. Steve never left her side for the couple of days is took for her to slip peacefully away, even sleeping on the kitchen floor next to her at night. I think the cameras stayed away from Steve for a bit out of respect immediately after Suie passed away, but there was one shot of a clearly heartbroken Steve saying "A boy doesn't have many best friends in life, and I just lost one of mine". That was the most moving piece of television I've ever seen.
So few people in life retain the wonder and appreciation for the world that many of us had, but have since lost, as children. Steve was one of them. Furthermore, there are few people who can convey their passions in life with such infectious enthusiasm and generate such interest in things that the general public may have otherwise been completely ignorant about.
At least he died doing what he loved; I'm sure he wouldn't have had it any other way. It's horrible for Terri and the kids, not to mention all his friends at the zoo. Steve leaves behind more than a few memories, though. He leaves behind a legacy that people believe in passionately and will continue on his behalf.
I'll miss you Steve- the world is richer for having had you, and poorer for having lost you.
Rest in peace.
Paul
"well, we told him it was just a matter of time"
Getting killed by a sting ray is just plain bad luck; they're normally very placid and only ever usually use their barbs when trodden on -even then, I can't think of another fatality resulting from a sting; it's very painful by all accounts, but should not be fatal.
Steve did so much to promote conservation and the importance of learning to appreciate and respect creatures that normally just attract fear and aversion. His love and admiration for the animal kingdom was so transparent, and his desire to do his bit to preserve endangered species was as boundless as it was admirable.
Two memories spring readily to mind, the first was Steve's expedition to find the Inland Taipan - the worlds most venomous snake. One bite from this snake contains enough venom to kill 250,000 mice!! During the course of interacting with this snake, Steve explained that it's nickname, the "fierce snake" was rather unfair as it was anything but agressive. He was laying on the floor as the snake was probing a crack in the ground for mice. As the snake emerged, she was about to move on to the next crack when she changed direction and made a beeline for Steve. At this point most people would have got up and run away, as far and fast as possible!! Steve just lay their and let her approach him. She was inches away from his face, a bite there would have been certain death, but the snake just gave a few flicks of its tongue (one of which actually made contact with Steve's face) and moved on. Steve was clearly stoked, and exclaimed, "Blimey, I just got kissed by the most venomous snake in the world- good thing she didn't like the taste!"
Steve will, no doubt, be most fondly remembered for his enthusiasm and efforts to foster some appreciation for dangerous animals, but his great love of wildlife extended to every creature - even the much less spectacular varieties. It's easy to get caught up in the headline grabbing antics with crocs etc, but what we need to remember is the respect and immense compassion for animals that drove this man. Accordingly, my other memory of Steve relates to some footage of him comforting his dog Suie (sp?). Unfortunately, the poor dog was on her way out after a very long and happy life. Steve never left her side for the couple of days is took for her to slip peacefully away, even sleeping on the kitchen floor next to her at night. I think the cameras stayed away from Steve for a bit out of respect immediately after Suie passed away, but there was one shot of a clearly heartbroken Steve saying "A boy doesn't have many best friends in life, and I just lost one of mine". That was the most moving piece of television I've ever seen.
So few people in life retain the wonder and appreciation for the world that many of us had, but have since lost, as children. Steve was one of them. Furthermore, there are few people who can convey their passions in life with such infectious enthusiasm and generate such interest in things that the general public may have otherwise been completely ignorant about.
At least he died doing what he loved; I'm sure he wouldn't have had it any other way. It's horrible for Terri and the kids, not to mention all his friends at the zoo. Steve leaves behind more than a few memories, though. He leaves behind a legacy that people believe in passionately and will continue on his behalf.
I'll miss you Steve- the world is richer for having had you, and poorer for having lost you.
Rest in peace.
Paul
04 September 2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Holy crap; I hoped this was a joke when I saw the thread title. I think Steve always joked that as long as it wasn't a crocodile that got him, he wouldn't mind, as if a croc was responsible, the papers would all say
"well, we told him it was just a matter of time"
Getting killed by a sting ray is just plain bad luck; they're normally very placid and only ever usually use their barbs when trodden on -even then, I can't think of another fatality resulting from a sting; it's very painful by all accounts, but should not be fatal.
Steve did so much to promote conservation and the importance of learning to appreciate and respect creatures that normally just attract fear and aversion. His love and admiration for the animal kingdom was so transparent, and his desire to do his bit to preserve endangered species was as boundless as it was admirable.
Two memories spring readily to mind, the first was Steve's expedition to find the Inland Taipan - the worlds most venomous snake. One bite from this snake contains enough venom to kill 250,000 mice!! During the course of interacting with this snake, Steve explained that it's nickname, the "fierce snake" was rather unfair as it was anything but agressive. He was laying on the floor as the snake was probing a crack in the ground for mice. As the snake emerged, she was about to move on to the next crack when she changed direction and made a beeline for Steve. At this point most people would have got up and run away, as far and fast as possible!! Steve just lay their and let her approach him. She was inches away from his face, a bite there would have been certain death, but the snake just gave a few flicks of its tongue (one of which actually made contact with Steve's face) and moved on. Steve was clearly stoked, and exclaimed, "Blimey, I just got kissed by the most venomous snake in the world- good thing she didn't like the taste!"
Steve will, no doubt, be most fondly remembered for his enthusiasm and efforts to foster some appreciation for dangerous animals, but his great love of wildlife extended to every creature - even the much less spectacular varieties. It's easy to get caught up in the headline grabbing antics with crocs etc, but what we need to remember is the respect and immense compassion for animals that drove this man. Accordingly, my other memory of Steve relates to some footage of him comforting his dog Suie (sp?). Unfortunately, the poor dog was on her way out after a very long and happy life. Steve never left her side for the couple of days is took for her to slip peacefully away, even sleeping on the kitchen floor next to her at night. I think the cameras stayed away from Steve for a bit out of respect immediately after Suie passed away, but there was one shot of a clearly heartbroken Steve saying "A boy doesn't have many best friends in life, and I just lost one of mine". That was the most moving piece of television I've ever seen.
So few people in life retain the wonder and appreciation for the world that many of us had, but have since lost, as children. Steve was one of them. Furthermore, there are few people who can convey their passions in life with such infectious enthusiasm and generate such interest in things that the general public may have otherwise been completely ignorant about.
At least he died doing what he loved; I'm sure he wouldn't have had it any other way. It's horrible for Terri and the kids, not to mention all his friends at the zoo. Steve leaves behind more than a few memories, though. He leaves behind a legacy that people believe in passionately and will continue on his behalf.
I'll miss you Steve- the world is richer for having had you, and poorer for having lost you.
Rest in peace.
Paul
"well, we told him it was just a matter of time"
Getting killed by a sting ray is just plain bad luck; they're normally very placid and only ever usually use their barbs when trodden on -even then, I can't think of another fatality resulting from a sting; it's very painful by all accounts, but should not be fatal.
Steve did so much to promote conservation and the importance of learning to appreciate and respect creatures that normally just attract fear and aversion. His love and admiration for the animal kingdom was so transparent, and his desire to do his bit to preserve endangered species was as boundless as it was admirable.
Two memories spring readily to mind, the first was Steve's expedition to find the Inland Taipan - the worlds most venomous snake. One bite from this snake contains enough venom to kill 250,000 mice!! During the course of interacting with this snake, Steve explained that it's nickname, the "fierce snake" was rather unfair as it was anything but agressive. He was laying on the floor as the snake was probing a crack in the ground for mice. As the snake emerged, she was about to move on to the next crack when she changed direction and made a beeline for Steve. At this point most people would have got up and run away, as far and fast as possible!! Steve just lay their and let her approach him. She was inches away from his face, a bite there would have been certain death, but the snake just gave a few flicks of its tongue (one of which actually made contact with Steve's face) and moved on. Steve was clearly stoked, and exclaimed, "Blimey, I just got kissed by the most venomous snake in the world- good thing she didn't like the taste!"
Steve will, no doubt, be most fondly remembered for his enthusiasm and efforts to foster some appreciation for dangerous animals, but his great love of wildlife extended to every creature - even the much less spectacular varieties. It's easy to get caught up in the headline grabbing antics with crocs etc, but what we need to remember is the respect and immense compassion for animals that drove this man. Accordingly, my other memory of Steve relates to some footage of him comforting his dog Suie (sp?). Unfortunately, the poor dog was on her way out after a very long and happy life. Steve never left her side for the couple of days is took for her to slip peacefully away, even sleeping on the kitchen floor next to her at night. I think the cameras stayed away from Steve for a bit out of respect immediately after Suie passed away, but there was one shot of a clearly heartbroken Steve saying "A boy doesn't have many best friends in life, and I just lost one of mine". That was the most moving piece of television I've ever seen.
So few people in life retain the wonder and appreciation for the world that many of us had, but have since lost, as children. Steve was one of them. Furthermore, there are few people who can convey their passions in life with such infectious enthusiasm and generate such interest in things that the general public may have otherwise been completely ignorant about.
At least he died doing what he loved; I'm sure he wouldn't have had it any other way. It's horrible for Terri and the kids, not to mention all his friends at the zoo. Steve leaves behind more than a few memories, though. He leaves behind a legacy that people believe in passionately and will continue on his behalf.
I'll miss you Steve- the world is richer for having had you, and poorer for having lost you.
Rest in peace.
Paul
04 September 2006, 11:17 AM
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A Real freak accident, he was only the 3rd person in Oz to die from a Stingray according to the news, another commented he was stabbed through the heart, resulting in the sting being Fatal.
Will be missed, looked through the Discovery channels and he's on Animal planet at 4pm
Will be missed, looked through the Discovery channels and he's on Animal planet at 4pm
04 September 2006, 11:23 AM
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I remember he was also doing a feeding at the Zoo a few years back, he made the comment that when ever he dies and his death is announced he said he was sure that they'd be people saying "I knew that Croc would get him"
It was one of the first things that popped in to my head.
It was one of the first things that popped in to my head.
04 September 2006, 11:31 AM
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my brother just phoned me earlier and told me. i felt so gutted and felt like crying
guy woz brilliant and the best of entertainment
may he rest in peace and will be sadly missed
guy woz brilliant and the best of entertainment
may he rest in peace and will be sadly missed
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For clarity......
The stingray has a stinging spine, not unlike a knife, which can reach anywhere up to 38cm in length.
When harassed, they swing or arch their tail in the direction of the intruder as a defensive maneuver to protect themselves, this drives their spine into the unwanted intruder.
They also release potent toxins from the spine sheath.
So it's not unlike getting stabbed in the chest by a kitchen knife wielding maniac.........
The stingray has a stinging spine, not unlike a knife, which can reach anywhere up to 38cm in length.
When harassed, they swing or arch their tail in the direction of the intruder as a defensive maneuver to protect themselves, this drives their spine into the unwanted intruder.
They also release potent toxins from the spine sheath.
So it's not unlike getting stabbed in the chest by a kitchen knife wielding maniac.........
04 September 2006, 11:48 AM
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...and they sit there motionless if you just watch them; even from 2 feet away.
But if you prod them to get a reaction, then it's "not unlike getting stabbed in the chest by a kitchen knife wielding maniac".
chuh!
From: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...6-1702,00.html
"Victoria Brims, a marine life expert from Oceanworld in Sydney, said the stingray that killed Irwin was most likely provoked.
I am aware he was filming a documentary and his documentaries are usually very hands on. I can only assume that he had some kind of hands on or close contact with the animal who like us when we get afraid defended itself," Ms Brims said."
But if you prod them to get a reaction, then it's "not unlike getting stabbed in the chest by a kitchen knife wielding maniac".
chuh!
From: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...6-1702,00.html
"Victoria Brims, a marine life expert from Oceanworld in Sydney, said the stingray that killed Irwin was most likely provoked.
I am aware he was filming a documentary and his documentaries are usually very hands on. I can only assume that he had some kind of hands on or close contact with the animal who like us when we get afraid defended itself," Ms Brims said."
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From Steve's website:
At 11am today, the 4th September 2006, Steve Irwin was fatally wounded by a stingray barb to his heart whilst filming a sequence on Batt Reef off Port Douglas for his daughter’s new TV series.
Emergency services were called from Cairns Rescue Base and met Croc One, Steve’s rescue vessel at Low Isle on the Great Barrier Reef.
The Croc One crew performed constant CPR during the thirty minute dash to Low Isle, but the medical staff pronounced Steve dead at approx. 12 noon.
His producer and closest friend, John Stainton said on Croc One today,
“The world has lost a great wildlife icon, a passionate conservationist and one of the proudest Dads on the planet. He died doing what he loves best and left this world in a happy and peaceful state of mind. Crocs Rule!”
At 11am today, the 4th September 2006, Steve Irwin was fatally wounded by a stingray barb to his heart whilst filming a sequence on Batt Reef off Port Douglas for his daughter’s new TV series.
Emergency services were called from Cairns Rescue Base and met Croc One, Steve’s rescue vessel at Low Isle on the Great Barrier Reef.
The Croc One crew performed constant CPR during the thirty minute dash to Low Isle, but the medical staff pronounced Steve dead at approx. 12 noon.
His producer and closest friend, John Stainton said on Croc One today,
“The world has lost a great wildlife icon, a passionate conservationist and one of the proudest Dads on the planet. He died doing what he loves best and left this world in a happy and peaceful state of mind. Crocs Rule!”
04 September 2006, 12:20 PM
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A freak accident. Very sad indeed.
Taking time off from the main project, Mr Irwin was swimming in shallow water, snorkelling as his cameraman filmed large bull rays.
"He came over the top of a stingray and the stingray's barb went up and went into his chest and put a hole into his heart," said Mr Irwin's friend and manager John Stainton.
"It's likely that he possibly died instantly when the barb hit him, and I don't think that he ... felt any pain.
Marine documentary maker Ben Cropp, who spoke to one of Mr Irwin's crew, said: "Steve got probably maybe a bit too close to the ray, and with the cameraman in front, the ray must have felt sort of cornered.
"It went into a defensive mode, stopped, turned around and lashed out with its tail, which has a considerable spike on it.
"Unfortunately Steve was directly in its path and he took a fatal wound."
Taking time off from the main project, Mr Irwin was swimming in shallow water, snorkelling as his cameraman filmed large bull rays.
"He came over the top of a stingray and the stingray's barb went up and went into his chest and put a hole into his heart," said Mr Irwin's friend and manager John Stainton.
"It's likely that he possibly died instantly when the barb hit him, and I don't think that he ... felt any pain.
Marine documentary maker Ben Cropp, who spoke to one of Mr Irwin's crew, said: "Steve got probably maybe a bit too close to the ray, and with the cameraman in front, the ray must have felt sort of cornered.
"It went into a defensive mode, stopped, turned around and lashed out with its tail, which has a considerable spike on it.
"Unfortunately Steve was directly in its path and he took a fatal wound."
04 September 2006, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
...and they sit there motionless if you just watch them; even from 2 feet away.
But if you prod them to get a reaction, then it's "not unlike getting stabbed in the chest by a kitchen knife wielding maniac".
chuh!
From: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...6-1702,00.html
"Victoria Brims, a marine life expert from Oceanworld in Sydney, said the stingray that killed Irwin was most likely provoked.
I am aware he was filming a documentary and his documentaries are usually very hands on. I can only assume that he had some kind of hands on or close contact with the animal who like us when we get afraid defended itself," Ms Brims said."
But if you prod them to get a reaction, then it's "not unlike getting stabbed in the chest by a kitchen knife wielding maniac".
chuh!
From: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...6-1702,00.html
"Victoria Brims, a marine life expert from Oceanworld in Sydney, said the stingray that killed Irwin was most likely provoked.
I am aware he was filming a documentary and his documentaries are usually very hands on. I can only assume that he had some kind of hands on or close contact with the animal who like us when we get afraid defended itself," Ms Brims said."
Yeah o.k. we here you, so he made a tragic mistake(maybe).......
At the end of the day a lot of people liked the guy.
How or why he died is irrelevant.
rest in peace Steve. you will be missed
04 September 2006, 12:35 PM
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WEll what can i say....IM SHOCKED Cricky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve was very entertaing ,and i always enjoyed watching his programmes.
Thoughts go to all his family,friends RIP
He will be very sadly missed
Mick
Cricky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Steve was very entertaing ,and i always enjoyed watching his programmes.
Thoughts go to all his family,friends RIP
He will be very sadly missed
Mick
04 September 2006, 12:36 PM
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I will have to stop doing my impression of him when tackling one of the most aggressive, dangerous and venomous creatures in the British Isles, my missus before her monthy female event when it has to be said, she isnt her most receptive and pleasant, I would rather tangle with one of the armour plated things from alien.
I don a knaki shirt and creep up behind her and grab her ****, **** or anything else that comes to hand and just as she turns round I lean backwards so I am out of range and do my best Steve Irwin/Aussie impression
"Whoa, Look at this little blighter"
"I think she's a bit upset with me"
"Look at those teeth, stewth"
Even she cant help but laugh, well she couldn't the first 5 or 6 times.
RIP Steve.
I will have to stop doing my impression of him when tackling one of the most aggressive, dangerous and venomous creatures in the British Isles, my missus before her monthy female event when it has to be said, she isnt her most receptive and pleasant, I would rather tangle with one of the armour plated things from alien.
I don a knaki shirt and creep up behind her and grab her ****, **** or anything else that comes to hand and just as she turns round I lean backwards so I am out of range and do my best Steve Irwin/Aussie impression
"Whoa, Look at this little blighter"
"I think she's a bit upset with me"
"Look at those teeth, stewth"
Even she cant help but laugh, well she couldn't the first 5 or 6 times.
RIP Steve.
04 September 2006, 12:40 PM
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I think Steve would be mortified if people were to get the wrong idea of Stingrays because of this tragic accident. This really is a bit of a freak occurrance- deaths involving stingrays are ulta rare; you're much more likely to be killed by a dog!
It's worth baring in mind that there are many places where you can (and are encouraged) to swim with Stingrays. For example, in Discovery cove (Seaworld, Florida) There is a stingray pool where you can snorkle with them. You can feed them too. They're very gentle, placid and curious creatures- it was an honour for me to spend time with them in their environment.
Ultimately, when you interact with any animal that has the capacity to hurt you, there are risks. The risks of getting hurt by a ray are very remote. Regrettably Steve just got very unlucky.
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It's worth baring in mind that there are many places where you can (and are encouraged) to swim with Stingrays. For example, in Discovery cove (Seaworld, Florida) There is a stingray pool where you can snorkle with them. You can feed them too. They're very gentle, placid and curious creatures- it was an honour for me to spend time with them in their environment.
Ultimately, when you interact with any animal that has the capacity to hurt you, there are risks. The risks of getting hurt by a ray are very remote. Regrettably Steve just got very unlucky.
Ns04
04 September 2006, 01:12 PM
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A sad loss - he was a top bloke
Apparently only one other person is known to have been killed by a stingray barb in Australia and it was in 1945 - so he was very unlucky it seems
Apparently only one other person is known to have been killed by a stingray barb in Australia and it was in 1945 - so he was very unlucky it seems
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Shame, he was one funny guy.........
I wonder if Terry Nutkins will make a comeback?
I wonder if Terry Nutkins will make a comeback?
Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
This really is a bit of a freak occurrance- deaths involving stingrays are ulta rare; you're much more likely to be killed by a dog!
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