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i mean alot of JDM models.

Legnum VR4, Type R scoobies, in fact, many JDM models have tinted galss dont they, there are many with them.


And i will say again, were the tints the guy had on the car ilegal??? For something to be ilegal it has to be proven does it not. There is a correct prcceedure that has to be followed, and no matter what way you want to look at it, this copper did not follow it.

Legaly, he does not have the right to impound your car, could he of? yes, very easily, but a couple of calls would have seen your car back on your drive within hours. Then the complaints begin....


Who cares mate if you dont like it, your not the first, you certainly wont be the last, this is not the point in question, so go start anothr thread, fact, give me five mins and i will do it for you and you can shout about it all you like in there.

SteveScooby

iTrader: (2)

I think under new legislation Traffic Police have the power to have vehicles seized now

scoobynutta555

Many models of JDM may well have tinted glass, but are they at the front of the car?

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only when a criminal offence has been aledgedly commited i am lead to believe

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JDM models yes, many US models have tinted glass all round....


your point is?

scoobynutta555

What models have tinted glass at the front of the cars from Japan then?

My point? What about what's your point, we aren't in the US Japan or wherever tints are legal, we're in the UK and dark tiniting is illegal.

There's probably a market for a lot of dangerous items on cars, it isn't an argument for having them on there and legalised.

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Have a read on this link.


http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/police/...raffic/#named2

If the car was being used in a distressing manour or dangerous, or it was on the road without the correct licencing or insurance, the police were given the power to seize these vehicles.

For defects, they have to be issued with a VDRN (vehicle default rectification notice)

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Jesus christ, where did i say they did have tinted fron galss FFS, i said YES, i agree, though my origional post never said they had tinted glass all round, i just wasnt specific on which windows were tinted.


now we are onto DARK tinting, i never said anything about illegal tinting did i. I have stressed all the way through my posting that there is nothing at all wrong with having the legal amount of tint on your windows.

And guess what, i will stand by that still, just because you may not like it, doesnt mean to say we, he or she shouldnt do it. We dont have fasion police.



We could go on all doy about other products mate, but to be quite honest, i have not got the time nor the inclination to argues with you, FFS, you cant even grasp my posts, probably my fault, i need to make them more simple i guess for some of those reading

scoobynutta555

Erm

Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Many models of JDM may well have tinted glass, but are they at the front of the car?

You:
JDM models yes, many US models have tinted glass all round....


Don't make your posts more simple mate, just put them in proper understandable English.

Abdabz

One of the greatest and most true posts of all time on SN

hojkoff

Right ok, I've not really bothered to read all the posts here since my last on but I read this thread this morning and asked a traffic police man about it. Here’s what happened,

And here is the reply I got, judge it for yourself,

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If you asked him do coppers give people a good kicking when in the back of the van i put my next month wages on it he would say the same thing lol



but at least we agree on the VDRN, that is the correct protocol that needs to be stuck to

hojkoff

Mate don't kill the messenger.

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im not bud, i wouldnt do such a thing

sterb5

all of u that r sticking up for the police can u please show me some examples of good use of there authority for proper crimes .my nephew got assaulted last night by 6 lads.he was walkin his girlfriend home.did my brother phone the police so they can do something ,did he f:k,what for. sorry but they are an absolute waste of time.

Harty2000

My Dad is a retired policeman. When he was serving he dealt with a assault where a lad got a beating. " days after it had happened my dad was due to have a weeks holiday but instead he carried on working and succesfully arrested the guilty party and they were later sentenced.
There are many other storys like that but the negative storys of the police will always out weight the good.
Someone could say your wife was pulled over initially for poor driving and not being a subaru driver, just the same as you are saying the police are useless.

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Each to there own i suppose mate.....


but, although its not been asked for, IMO, they are all a waste of time space and money, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.


And people who kno me on here will know exactly what im talking about and that my opinions are warranted. I have, and probably will never deal with them unless i have to. They lie, cheat and they are generally just the biggest collection of arrogant dishonest people that you are ever likely to come across on gods green earth

DCI Gene Hunt

Edited for correctness...........

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billythekid

The law on tints states vehicles registered > April 1985 front windscreen must have at least 75% light transmission, side windows must allow 70%. For vehicles registered < 1985 the figure is 70% all round.

Rear and rear side windows are exempt.

The way you were treated does sound a little odd and the fact no light meter was used is a little worrying however its worth noting that the only time I have seen VOSA instruct people to remove tints is if they are very dark and its night time. Hence it would be silly to let the person drive off with a VDRS into the night as they could have an accident. If its in the day you might get a delayed notice - but this is only for 1 hour in most cases.

I know I would never remove tints from a car, its not my property and I would never dream of doing it - what if the window shattered as I tried to remove them?!

I personally disagree with forcing people to remove the tints at the road side. It should be a VDRS or PG9 and thats it, i.e you drive away to get it sorted at MOT station or the car is taken away.

Thankfully its not a job I have to get involved with as we have VOSA officers who go out with traffic to do this.

monkeyboy840

I think you'll find a 'minority' of bad apples in any job. I know you have reason to dislike the Police Evo because i've read the reasons why. But people dont know what the Police have to deal with day in day out.

The crap that they get called to day in day out etc etc that stops them dealing with 'the real criminals' as people seem to call them.

People tend to target traffic Police due to the fact it is probably the only contact they have had with the Police ever, and getting a ticket or tints ripped off (dont agree with though) is a bad experience. I wouldnt be happy.

But it is unfair to tar everbody with the same brush because most coppers are there to try and help people. The problem at the moment isnt just the Police Forces its the lack of decent laws available to put the criminals away, and when they get to Court they get let back out by the judges, magistrates etc.

Its easy for people to target the 'Police' for everything but there are many other factors and parties in the 'justice system' which at the minute I agree is crap.

Thats my opinion anyways but I put on my flame suit for the return posts.

GC8

Complete and absolute rubbish. And as for this:

Are we ni**ers? Is this Inglewood?

davedipster

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Tinted windows are not included in the MOT test, but the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) have started roadside checks to make sure tinted windows follow the Road Vehicle (Construction & Use) Regulations. These specify the minimum levels of light that must pass through the windscreen and front side windows. VOSA has produced an information leaflet on window tints which answers such questions as:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/ExternalLin...nformation.pdf


What is excessively tinted glass? glass that passes less than 70% on the front side windows either side of the drivers head. Be aware that most cars have a slight tint as std.

Why are tinted windows not included in the MOT test? Because its a roadside test done by VSOA and traffic police. It would not be cost effective for MOT stations to buy this gear, for the small number of muppets who have tinted front windows.

<snip>

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Not from me, your entitled to voice your opinion just as much as the next person mate,


even i can respect that

Paul3446

Quote by Evolution
but, although its not been asked for, IMO, they are all a waste of time space and money, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.
And people who kno me on here will know exactly what im talking about and that my opinions are warranted. I have, and probably will never deal with them unless i have to. They lie, cheat and they are generally just the biggest collection of arrogant dishonest people that you are ever likely to come across on gods green earth


This does rather blow your whole argument out of the water by exposing yourself as someone who has a pathological hatred of the Police!

I'm not a big fan of the Police in general, but if you think that every Policeman is like this, I think you need some kind of therapy.

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it does????


can you elaborate on that first statement please. My hatred of the police as you put it is more than justified. i have had involvenemt with 2 of the northeast forces now and both have been extremely bad dealings for me and other family members.

Just to paint a picture here, i was 21, alwyas held down a GOOD job, well paid and never in bother with the law before in my life, UNTIL..... when this started it was the day i bought my first scoob, got stopped and they didnt like it. that day my car was ripped apart for drugs. Why, cos i was 21 with a relativly new fast car than a youngster apparently should not have had.

Since then, i have collected over 70 HORT1's, i have made 7 apperences in front of a magastrait, and might i add, i still have no endorsements on my licence. Only once have they managed to get a conviction, and due to me being painted in a corner, out with the girlfriend, she was taking me home, she got stopped, PC Mr ***** #1998 recognised me, dragged me out the car, i was rather drunk. Next thing i know, im bleeding quite bad, and im locked up. Charged with assaulting 5 officers out of the TWELVE that were there resisting arrest and drunk and dissorderly, i was at that point pretty fooked with all those proffessional wittnesses.

Anyway, they knew the history, photos of injuries seen all charges dropped for resisting arrest and assualt as my solicitor took the 12 statements apart. all lies and none of them were consisitant thankfully, or i really was up sh*t creek.

so for all my trouble, i have probably spent many hundreds on defence of micky mouse charges.,



Everywhere i go in the north east, i get stopped, no matter how many harrasment claims my solocitor puts in, it doesnt help.


at the last complaint, it was a total of 67 officers i had personal dealings with, (all written and documanted along with collar numbers) which is more than most might i suggest, and every one of them has been and arsehole.

Now, if your a copper, i have no further wish to speak to you, if your not, you sit there and tell me i need therapy, not likely. Its idiots like yourself that need to wake up and realise the world is not as rosey as your mother tells you.

Paul3446

Ooops, touched a nerve there!

It's weird, I've had Imprezas for 7 years and not been stopped once, such is life I guess!

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i think you would be pretty pissed off as well


my dad has owned all kinds of very fast and exspensive cars and hes never had bother, so f*ck, your point is what exactly

Paul3446

Surely if all Police were t*ssers as you claim, your dad would have had exactly the same treatment as you, as would everyone else on here who owns a sportscar. So you are contradicting yourself.

If the Police have treated you as you say they have, they presumably suspect you have done something and are trying to get you on another charge.

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he has not has the amount of producers, but he has had dealing with regards to being assaulted by 2 of them


every copper i have come accross has been a total to$$a, that is a fact, so, given i have not met another in the many i have so far met, i am making an educated guess.

they will all lie and cheat to back up each other in a court, i have written evidence and a video that proves that of 11 officers, quite ammusing really after the event.



I was told that they would have my licence taken from me as i would probably kill someone in my car. the only thing they based that on was the fact that i drove an impreza. not the way it was driven might i add. They tried, many times, and it has escilated from there, its called upping the stakes, which they have done, not me. its only as clearly im not as stupid as that bunch they they have not been able to make a charge stick. its because thay cant all tell the same lies there alleged chrarges fall apart.



so, im not contradicting myself at all. and no, i have not done anything, do you not think in nearly 6 years they would have got me by now. its simply called harrassment, nothin more, nothing less