Does crime pay?
14 September 2006, 09:47 PM
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Another case in point, burglar gets off with a community order:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/5346850.stm
But to be fair the woman who hit him over the head with a pan repeatedly wasn't banged up either, infact the judge said:
Which seems fair enough
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/5346850.stm
But to be fair the woman who hit him over the head with a pan repeatedly wasn't banged up either, infact the judge said:
Judge Tabor told El-Hamady during his last hearing that many people would have approved of her no-nonsense approach to him.
"I suspect many right-thinking members of the public regret she didn't hit you harder."
"I suspect many right-thinking members of the public regret she didn't hit you harder."
Which seems fair enough
14 September 2006, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LongTimeLurker
It would be funny if it wasn't true and to be perfectly honest fully expected either. It's a warped world m8, what if anything came of it, did he get anything or did you?
Despite an extensive search (all of about 5 mins) they gave up and could not find him, they said it was late and had tea and biscuits to get back to at the station
14 September 2006, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Did you read today about the women who swore at some kids who'd been giving her abuse for years, 13 year old shopped her & now she has a fine to pay! Well played Mr Policeman.
Also heard that in Dubai or similar if you get sent to prison & have no money/family you basically starve to death as they don't feed you for free ... sounds OK to me, life is far too easy for the crims who seem to see Prison as a piece of p1ss.
TX.
Also heard that in Dubai or similar if you get sent to prison & have no money/family you basically starve to death as they don't feed you for free ... sounds OK to me, life is far too easy for the crims who seem to see Prison as a piece of p1ss.
TX.
Yes it does pay. A friend of mine is in the police. A recent case was an alarm went off at a business premises one night. He was single crewed but nearby when he was notified. He went to the premises to find a door kicked in and noises coming from inside. He was told backup was on the way, so went in and was confronted by 2 burglars. He confronted one who then tried to assault him, and in the ensuing scuffle, my mate received some bruising and a cut lip but arrested the guy. It went to court and the criminal received £50 for resisting arrest and a community order for the burglary(I think concurrent with another one). Needless to say he had previous.
My mate pointed out that you get more for littering these days, so yes, crime does pay
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14 September 2006, 10:40 PM
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think the police realy need to look at there policies and pick up the law book again and stop harasing people drivin to do things because the police have done bugger all, perhaps if they stopped the problem in the first place then the situation would never happen, they keep saying prevention is better than punishment, so GOD DAMN PROOVE IT AND PRATICE WHAT YOU PREACH!!!!!
breath in,,,,, breath out,,,,,, pmsl
breath in,,,,, breath out,,,,,, pmsl
15 September 2006, 06:56 AM
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Each police force now have budgets and us fully legal drivers are a nice steady source of income for them. If 100 % of speed related revenue was pumped into public transport rather than to the force the police would soon back off.
15 September 2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Doo
Each police force now have budgets and us fully legal drivers are a nice steady source of income for them. If 100 % of speed related revenue was pumped into public transport rather than to the force the police would soon back off.
15 September 2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Or you could just obey the laws of the road
15 September 2006, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Some on entered my house about twelve months ago - thing is i was asleep on the sofa at the time, (been on the pop at weekend) anyway he woke me and i had to shall we say eject him from my premises. i rung teh police and they turned up (give them their due) within 5 minutes. i admitted he might be injured as he tripped over my doorstep and onto my driveway.
to my disbelief i was told if he was hurt and wanted to make an official complaint for assault they coudl come back and arrest me - i was dumbstruck.
so i said fine bring him back and let me do a proper job on him! then nick me
I was feckin' blazin!
to my disbelief i was told if he was hurt and wanted to make an official complaint for assault they coudl come back and arrest me - i was dumbstruck.
so i said fine bring him back and let me do a proper job on him! then nick me
I was feckin' blazin!
I don't know what i would do in that situation, as i would fk them up big time. I know the adrenalin etc kicks in and it wouldn't be pretty.
15 September 2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
There is not a person and i mean not a person on here who has not strayed over the speed limit
But I accept the fact that if I do speed, then I take a chance. We have all passed the driving test and more-or-less agreed to stick to the laws of the road.
I think some people are in too much of a hurry on roads and often leave to little time for journeys. If they know there is a stretch of road that is down to 30mph then add a little more time to your journey. Or travel that little bit faster, get there sooner, but accept the fact that you might get caught speeding.
15 September 2006, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
I agree - me included on a regular basis.
But I accept the fact that if I do speed, then I take a chance. We have all passed the driving test and more-or-less agreed to stick to the laws of the road.
I think some people are in too much of a hurry on roads and often leave to little time for journeys. If they know there is a stretch of road that is down to 30mph then add a little more time to your journey. Or travel that little bit faster, get there sooner, but accept the fact that you might get caught speeding.
But I accept the fact that if I do speed, then I take a chance. We have all passed the driving test and more-or-less agreed to stick to the laws of the road.
I think some people are in too much of a hurry on roads and often leave to little time for journeys. If they know there is a stretch of road that is down to 30mph then add a little more time to your journey. Or travel that little bit faster, get there sooner, but accept the fact that you might get caught speeding.
15 September 2006, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
fair comment, but the whole pointis that there so obssessed with stopping people doing it, which 99% causes no problems, that they have forgotten what true crimes are, such as car theft, burglury etc etc
The only ones that can pull you for speeding are the traffic cars, which make up only a small proportion of the police. Crimes are dealt with by emergency response teams, CID and local beats.
Stopping cars will always be part of the job as the majority of criminals use cars for their criminal purposes
15 September 2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
The majority is done now by static cameras
The only ones that can pull you for speeding are the traffic cars, which make up only a small proportion of the police. Crimes are dealt with by emergency response teams, CID and local beats.
Stopping cars will always be part of the job as the majority of criminals use cars for their criminal purposes
The only ones that can pull you for speeding are the traffic cars, which make up only a small proportion of the police. Crimes are dealt with by emergency response teams, CID and local beats.
Stopping cars will always be part of the job as the majority of criminals use cars for their criminal purposes
15 September 2006, 12:08 PM
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does crime pay? I watched Fun with Dick and Jane last night, worth watching if you want to know if it pays or not.
End of the day it depends on the sort of person you are, could you live with yourself knowing youve stolen some kids christmas presents on christmas eve etc?
End of the day it depends on the sort of person you are, could you live with yourself knowing youve stolen some kids christmas presents on christmas eve etc?
15 September 2006, 12:10 PM
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thing is even if you get caught you never have to pay the lot back, eg that cop who got doen for mobile phone fraud, he g0t £30million but had to pay £12million back, so what about the other 18mill?
15 September 2006, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yeah maybe, but how can you justify the expence? the camera's cost around £20,000 each at least, two camera's equals one cops salary, there always moaning about they don't have enough funding yet they spend millions on a petty crime such as speeding
15 September 2006, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
So do we just leave the roads to themselves....
although tbh i think doing this is a watse of time as well untill sentancng is sorted out, a slap on the wrist to a multiple offender does nothing
15 September 2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
So do we just leave the roads to themselves....
No i'd scrap scameras unless opposite schools or genuine black spots - normally they are sited to gain the most revenue - even my traffic cop buddy agrees to that. i would then get the traffic police to forget about pulling people for straying over the limit and concentrate on the uninsured/nicked/un-taxed - k**b heads who drive like tw*ts in a built up areas.
15 September 2006, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
thing is even if you get caught you never have to pay the lot back, eg that cop who got doen for mobile phone fraud, he g0t £30million but had to pay £12million back, so what about the other 18mill?
15 September 2006, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Or you could just obey the laws of the road
40mph on a good dual carriage way is just plain unrealistic, especially when they had to include a suicide jumper from a bridge on to the road in to the KSI stats to do it
15 September 2006, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
The trouble is where speed cameras have been introduced and people are slowing down, they are seeing a drop in revenue and so are decreasing the speed limits to the point where people are prepared to exceed them again.
40mph on a good dual carriage way is just plain unrealistic, especially when they had to include a suicide jumper from a bridge on to the road in to the KSI stats to do it
40mph on a good dual carriage way is just plain unrealistic, especially when they had to include a suicide jumper from a bridge on to the road in to the KSI stats to do it
15 September 2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Bonkers isn't it?
15 September 2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yeah tell me about it, having said that they don't enforce it anyway, joined it at 60 smack bang infront of a police car (was night at the time so didn't realise till i got to the motorway) and they didn't pull me lol
15 September 2006, 03:12 PM
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bunch of ****witts spring to mind, they wonder y theres a high death rate ona road with the only high bridge for miles around,,,,,,,, doesn't take a rocket scientists to work out y there so many deaths does it. realy gets up my goat though
