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I was just spectating this time, but an excellent day was had - thanks David. Also nice to put faces to so many names.
Pics here:
http://www.roobarb.fsnet.co.uk/stuff/rrday.html
I'll come to the next one and compete if there's spaces.
Simon.
Pics here:
http://www.roobarb.fsnet.co.uk/stuff/rrday.html
I'll come to the next one and compete if there's spaces.
Simon.
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Top day ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Thanks to all, especially David and John for making sure I got my run in before midday!, not forgetting the bacon butties and coffee service!
Shame I couldn't stay (yet another wedding to attend), on my mind was the impending wrath of girlfriend had I been late - that being the reason I forgot to pay!! At least I wasn't the only one
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An interesting note, my run produced an increase in bhp and a drop in torque when compared to a run I had earlier in the year. the only differences were lower ambient temps and a change in fuel for the latter run![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
Shame I missed Tang's run (or is that runner?
) and the Lawson ensemble, meet up with you guys soon - especially the one I owe money to
(what wedding?
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Justin![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Thanks to all, especially David and John for making sure I got my run in before midday!, not forgetting the bacon butties and coffee service!
Shame I couldn't stay (yet another wedding to attend), on my mind was the impending wrath of girlfriend had I been late - that being the reason I forgot to pay!! At least I wasn't the only one
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An interesting note, my run produced an increase in bhp and a drop in torque when compared to a run I had earlier in the year. the only differences were lower ambient temps and a change in fuel for the latter run
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Shame I missed Tang's run (or is that runner?
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Justin
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Babber (Phill C)
Yep chuffed with 238 BHP - only mod was service 2 weeks ago so clean standard air filter + Optimax & ECU reset
The My96 has the TD05 bigger turbo so lag and peak at top end 6800rpm.
The real giveaway that it honestly is a standard car is the Torque only 223 lbs/ft![Frown](images/smilies/frown.gif)
Anyway - too many ideas now - first boost gauge so I I can see I'm getting 09.bar - then exhaust & induction. Really tempted by the looks of the PE equal length manifold - gorgeous piece of kit - shame it ruins that lurvly scooby burble.
Anyway till next time -
Cheers,
Chris
Yep chuffed with 238 BHP - only mod was service 2 weeks ago so clean standard air filter + Optimax & ECU reset
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The real giveaway that it honestly is a standard car is the Torque only 223 lbs/ft
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Anyway - too many ideas now - first boost gauge so I I can see I'm getting 09.bar - then exhaust & induction. Really tempted by the looks of the PE equal length manifold - gorgeous piece of kit - shame it ruins that lurvly scooby burble.
Anyway till next time -
Cheers,
Chris
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First of all I'd like to say well done to Trout for organising a great day
Also well done to Truda for putting up with us lot and for keeping track of the results (I hope you did'nt lose your pen)
I had a good day (extremely happy with my scoob) and as everyone else has said, it was nice to put faces to names and meet a lot of Scooby netters, or should that be nutters...
Thanks to Merv and Chris as well for doing a great job (When are we going to see a phase II from PE ?)
Cheers
George
PS. The bacon butties were lovely and well appreciated
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Also well done to Truda for putting up with us lot and for keeping track of the results (I hope you did'nt lose your pen)
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I had a good day (extremely happy with my scoob) and as everyone else has said, it was nice to put faces to names and meet a lot of Scooby netters, or should that be nutters...
Thanks to Merv and Chris as well for doing a great job (When are we going to see a phase II from PE ?)
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Cheers
George
PS. The bacon butties were lovely and well appreciated
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Maddest Tunner - Cool ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Its only a little bit of laughing gas (ha ha ... he he)
Thanks to everyone on advice for why my car is running so little power (.8bar boost till 5500rpm them 1bar). Think a remap is needed. Can't wait to see the results when I get it running at 1.2bar of above.
Anyone interested in the NOS setup we have developed drop me a mail, the next kit will have an electronic controller that will do loads of functions (turbo timer, performance meter, 0-60, 0-100, air/fuel, boost guage, gear selected ... and anything else we can get from the ecu)
For anyone who is interested here is the dyno printout
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Its only a little bit of laughing gas (ha ha ... he he)
Thanks to everyone on advice for why my car is running so little power (.8bar boost till 5500rpm them 1bar). Think a remap is needed. Can't wait to see the results when I get it running at 1.2bar of above.
Anyone interested in the NOS setup we have developed drop me a mail, the next kit will have an electronic controller that will do loads of functions (turbo timer, performance meter, 0-60, 0-100, air/fuel, boost guage, gear selected ... and anything else we can get from the ecu)
For anyone who is interested here is the dyno printout
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Gutted that I didn't make it in the end
I think my plans for the week before were a little over enthusiastic, trying to fit the FMIC, Tubular Manifold, 440cc injectors and Water Injection in 3 days proved to be a bit much, and resulted in me succesfully stabbing myself in my right hand with a stanley knife, oops
followed by bu**ring up the injector fitment and hydraulicing the engine when it flouded (no damage done...that I can see) oh and now not being able to produce sensible boost [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Still Pat has been his ususal absolute legened and has got me mobile again (thanks Pat!) plus my second seemed to have fun
, hmm what's this button for...oooh 40 hp...
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I think my plans for the week before were a little over enthusiastic, trying to fit the FMIC, Tubular Manifold, 440cc injectors and Water Injection in 3 days proved to be a bit much, and resulted in me succesfully stabbing myself in my right hand with a stanley knife, oops
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Still Pat has been his ususal absolute legened and has got me mobile again (thanks Pat!) plus my second seemed to have fun
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Tim
Youve ditched the Maestro Water Spray then ?
DYNO SITE
Had a word with Dave Power, he was hoping Paul would update the site. I'll drop him a mail
No Excuses Part II
I think Trout would welcome any sugesstions on improving the day.
Cant do loads more catagories though. Not sure Jap spec cars need to come though as the UK cars always kick their *****
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Cheers
Jonathan
Youve ditched the Maestro Water Spray then ?
DYNO SITE
Had a word with Dave Power, he was hoping Paul would update the site. I'll drop him a mail
No Excuses Part II
I think Trout would welcome any sugesstions on improving the day.
Cant do loads more catagories though. Not sure Jap spec cars need to come though as the UK cars always kick their *****
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Cheers
Jonathan
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Chins/Jonathan,
I noticed a lack of stirring on your part!!!
Were you ill???
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I'll be curious as to when another UK car beats my figures!!
Or even a Japanese car!! They try don't they!!! ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Cheers
Andy
PS - I mailed Paul in July about some runs I had then, but nothing! I guess he's busy!!
I noticed a lack of stirring on your part!!!
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I'll be curious as to when another UK car beats my figures!!
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Cheers
Andy
PS - I mailed Paul in July about some runs I had then, but nothing! I guess he's busy!!
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Babber(Phil)
Look lets get something straight, your car is not broken or running badly, it's a MY00 - they're all like that!
My car put out a measily 201BHP at PS and now I get 233BHP at PE 10k miles later. I do think that PE's rollers read 15 - 20BHP more than PS.
I've asked all the questions and reviewed as much info as I can find on the MY00 to pre MY00 differences. It seems that mechanically they are identical to MY99's but there is something different in the ECU. Afterall, I had a MY99 as well and that went a lot better than my MY00.
The conclusion IMHO is to get a link to replace the ECU. The MY00's that have, have been transformed. The downside is cost of course and some possible cold starting troubles.
F
Look lets get something straight, your car is not broken or running badly, it's a MY00 - they're all like that!
My car put out a measily 201BHP at PS and now I get 233BHP at PE 10k miles later. I do think that PE's rollers read 15 - 20BHP more than PS.
I've asked all the questions and reviewed as much info as I can find on the MY00 to pre MY00 differences. It seems that mechanically they are identical to MY99's but there is something different in the ECU. Afterall, I had a MY99 as well and that went a lot better than my MY00.
The conclusion IMHO is to get a link to replace the ECU. The MY00's that have, have been transformed. The downside is cost of course and some possible cold starting troubles.
F
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Floyd, you state that the problem with the Link in cost and cold start.
Cost = It costs about the same as a unichip with a 'PROPER' boost controller, and is cheaper than a Motec or Pectel.
Cold Start = This takes a few attempts to get right, but I myself and plenty of others DONT have a problem with it.
Please get the facts CORRECT before slatting a product.
Dan
Cost = It costs about the same as a unichip with a 'PROPER' boost controller, and is cheaper than a Motec or Pectel.
Cold Start = This takes a few attempts to get right, but I myself and plenty of others DONT have a problem with it.
Please get the facts CORRECT before slatting a product.
Dan
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I agree with Danny's comments, I have no issue with the Link!
TimW I got your mail glad to see you reep the fruit of pain;-)
and still lots to come m8
(UK cars are doing it!!!)
Moe
TimW I got your mail glad to see you reep the fruit of pain;-)
and still lots to come m8
(UK cars are doing it!!!)
Moe
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Moe... cheers matey ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Steve, you better ask Trout how to get a 'Silly cast far'... he's our resident flyfishing expert![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Danny, at least I had a legit' reason to get someone else to do the work
Anyway have you ever tried to stop Pat when he's on a mission!
I don't know why it is but my knock link, and knock readings are way down since fitting the headers, front mount and injectors...I accidentally took the car to 7400 rpm today without a serious det (read 66 on the datalog), the red line is set at 7200...oops....
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Steve, you better ask Trout how to get a 'Silly cast far'... he's our resident flyfishing expert
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Danny, at least I had a legit' reason to get someone else to do the work
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I don't know why it is but my knock link, and knock readings are way down since fitting the headers, front mount and injectors...I accidentally took the car to 7400 rpm today without a serious det (read 66 on the datalog), the red line is set at 7200...oops....
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Au contrae Danny, I'm not slating the link at all! It's just the reverse, as I'd like one dearly (excuse the pun) but the bank balance won't stretch to any 'ECU' type mod at the moment.
I was just stating that to properly fix the MY00's problems you'll need a link. There have been some cold start niggles with this product and £1200 for the whole package (link, mapper, knocklink and lambda link)is a downside in anyones language, BUT does not mean that I am slating it OK!!!!!!
Pah! some people.
F
I was just stating that to properly fix the MY00's problems you'll need a link. There have been some cold start niggles with this product and £1200 for the whole package (link, mapper, knocklink and lambda link)is a downside in anyones language, BUT does not mean that I am slating it OK!!!!!!
Pah! some people.
F
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Floyd,
I know what your saying about my car, but the bloody thing was fine until the 15 k service, honest. That was when the fun started!!! Upto that point it was flying then all of a sudden, it started to play up. Before 31 MPG, now around 18 MPG on a run!!
Hesitating, over boost, running rich ![Frown](images/smilies/frown.gif)
They're not all like that, sorry I don't accept this, even Merv at PE said that it felt ****e [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...ThreadID=15372
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...ThreadID=30193
Story so far, my fleet manager has been talking to ACL (fleet managers for my company) top technical bloke, and they are taking the Scoobysports exhaust off again, and drafting a letter, with the aid of my company lawyers and ACL lawyers to IM. They are not fixing the root cause, the ECU IMHO!!!
I've told my fleet manager to stick the car where the sun don't shine, but due to the Whole Life Costs, it's more expensive than a E320 and it's classified as a Directors car, and we can't find any idiot to take it off my hands.
Still I wouldn't want to stitch anyone up with it, so IM better sort it out.
Rant over!!!
Cheers Phill C
PS Other solution is to buy myself or sell to someone privately. At least if I buy it I can go for a link
I know what your saying about my car, but the bloody thing was fine until the 15 k service, honest. That was when the fun started!!! Upto that point it was flying then all of a sudden, it started to play up. Before 31 MPG, now around 18 MPG on a run!!
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They're not all like that, sorry I don't accept this, even Merv at PE said that it felt ****e [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...ThreadID=15372
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...ThreadID=30193
Story so far, my fleet manager has been talking to ACL (fleet managers for my company) top technical bloke, and they are taking the Scoobysports exhaust off again, and drafting a letter, with the aid of my company lawyers and ACL lawyers to IM. They are not fixing the root cause, the ECU IMHO!!!
I've told my fleet manager to stick the car where the sun don't shine, but due to the Whole Life Costs, it's more expensive than a E320 and it's classified as a Directors car, and we can't find any idiot to take it off my hands.
Still I wouldn't want to stitch anyone up with it, so IM better sort it out.
Rant over!!!
Cheers Phill C
PS Other solution is to buy myself or sell to someone privately. At least if I buy it I can go for a link
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Phil
We didn't get to meet at the RR day! We've been posting about the same stuff on and off as well.
I've re read the posts and I believe you but your car produced more power than mine and your car was off-form. How does that make me feel!!!!!Tsk. BTW I've never got 31MPG even on a run to Knockhill, where I got 28MPG.
It would be interesting to see what a link would do to your car or even a MY99 ECU. Does any one know of a reason why you can't put a MY99 ECU in a MY00?
I'll ask the question in Drivetrain.
F
We didn't get to meet at the RR day! We've been posting about the same stuff on and off as well.
I've re read the posts and I believe you but your car produced more power than mine and your car was off-form. How does that make me feel!!!!!Tsk. BTW I've never got 31MPG even on a run to Knockhill, where I got 28MPG.
It would be interesting to see what a link would do to your car or even a MY99 ECU. Does any one know of a reason why you can't put a MY99 ECU in a MY00?
I'll ask the question in Drivetrain.
F
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Floyd,
My understanding of the ECUs is the MY99 is the same as the MY00, so shouldn't make any difference. I have a mate that has a spare MY99 ECU, so will ask him if I can try it...
Yes mine produced more power, but I have got a ITG, Scoobysport Downpipe and backbox, so should be a bit more than standard, but isn't
So don't feel bad.
Shame we didn't meet at the RR day. I should have come and found you for a chat.
Cheers Phill C
PS I wil be at Bedford on Friday, watching the event though![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
My understanding of the ECUs is the MY99 is the same as the MY00, so shouldn't make any difference. I have a mate that has a spare MY99 ECU, so will ask him if I can try it...
Yes mine produced more power, but I have got a ITG, Scoobysport Downpipe and backbox, so should be a bit more than standard, but isn't
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Shame we didn't meet at the RR day. I should have come and found you for a chat.
Cheers Phill C
PS I wil be at Bedford on Friday, watching the event though
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