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Old 06 October 2006, 02:09 PM
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i have had this twice before with previous cars, and i find the best course of action is to calmly walk over to the boot, open it, pull out a big fukcen hammer and swing like **** while running after them.

i did get a few bricks to the head with the last attempt but i soon sorted that out a few weeks later once i had the "info" i needed.
Old 06 October 2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by marmski
Agreed.

How do i get this anti-hijack feature of locking the doors activated on my MY05? I used to have this in my Focus and loved it... didnt think the scoobs could do this.
Check your manual mate, it's all in there under the alarm section.

IIRC you have to locate your alarms keypad and then hold down a button for a number of seconds, I don't recall the exact instructions though, sorry! It may be called autolock, or something similar rather than anti hijack though.

Sigma Sam on here will know.

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Old 06 October 2006, 02:12 PM
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i wouldn't hand them over straight away. i have no trained fighting skills and i normally try to avoid them. but tend to be a little dirty if it looks like it's going to go to it.

i'd like to think that i'd throw the keys at them, while one scrambles to catch them, kick him hard in the nuts then stamp sideways on the other blokes knee. thus leaving them both on the floor while i pick up my keys and then drive off like i'd stole it. go into hiding for the next 3 years while they forget what i look like and sell the car in the mean time as it's not worth the hassle of the gang that will probably come looking for me.

in reality i'd probably ask them their question again, realise that they had said what i thought they had and hand over the keys.
Old 06 October 2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
I don't understand this ...

In my experience the insurance payout is far less than you need to buy another similar car, it takes ages to get the money, in the meantime you are on the bus or inconveniencing your mates, you lose all your CDs, gloves, roadmaps etc., and get nothing towards replacement, you have to hunt high and low for a new car, time consuming and expensive, which is never quite as good as your old one, your insurance premium will increase the next year, and forever more you know that some toerag has got the benefit of your hardearned. There are probably other factors that I've forgotten.

It's not just a car, in my case it represents years of hard work that I don't want to go through again.

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When you put it like that, you're right, i'd do my first option, unless the family are involved.

Think i might remember this thread when heavy bag training tonight
Old 06 October 2006, 02:32 PM
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I don't think you can really know how you'd react unless it happened to you, and it's probably a split second judgment call at that time as to which way you go based on the circumstances you are in at that time. There would be a lot of factors that would potentially influence your decision.

Personally I am only interested in the wellbeing of myself and my family and I don't think that is worth risking for the car so I'd give them the keys unless I felt certain I could fend them off without getting hurt very much. If I did though I'd tell them to make sure they burned it out or wrote it off when they'd finished with it because I wouldn't want it back.

Yes, it's my car, I've spent money on it and I've spent time doing stuff to it just like everyone else, but the bottom line is there are loads of cars so there will be another one. There's only one of me and one of my family so if it comes to the crunch the car will lose every time.

The insurance may not pay you absolutely everything if you have to claim for the cost of a replacement but then they probably won't pay everything if you get it back with worn out tyres, brakes, clutch and an engine that's been over-revved. Speedkings right, but then life's a bitch. I'm self employed so would rather lose a bit on the insurance payout than potentially jeopardise my ability to work.
Old 06 October 2006, 03:36 PM
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one little point regarding handing over keys!

whos to say you arnt going to get a kicking/stabbing anyway?????? thats the reason i would stand and fight.
Old 06 October 2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by B9GLY
one little point regarding handing over keys!

whos to say you arnt going to get a kicking/stabbing anyway?
good point. it's not unheard of.
Old 06 October 2006, 04:22 PM
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I don't think I could live with myself if I didn't resist.

To simply hand something over goes against every nerve in my body. My view is that the thieving little ******* are probably banking on the fact that you'll meekly hand the keys over. If you start giving them some serious ****, they might just leg it. Is it worth the hassle to them? They're looking for a quick fix, and if you cause them trouble they'll go and find someone else.

If I get stabbed, then at least I got hurt trying. Not to try is giving up. Crime would be on the decrease if more of us fought back. Even the serious crims would think twice if they thought they might get a bit of a slapping.

On the other hand, my sis was mugged by someone with a handgun. She did the right thing and didn't resist. I think I could have been shot.

I just hope I don't have to find out whether it's fight or flight.
Old 06 October 2006, 04:28 PM
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i was sitting in my car when 2 chavs shouted get out the f**King car no f**K off i said so he hit the window with a baseball bat i then shouted come on then they looked shocked and hit it twice more but i did not smash i did freeze for a bit looked at my phone but did not no how to use it (at the time lol) so on went the horn and off i went flat out up the road best start i ever did lol
Old 06 October 2006, 05:13 PM
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i can see the headlines already,STUPID SUBARU DRIVER DOESNT HAND CAR KEYS OVER AND GETS STABBED TO DEATH.cos next week the only people that will remember are the people reading it while eating there chips .

i reckon just stand and scream as loud as you can
Old 06 October 2006, 05:25 PM
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a scooby can be replaced .. your LIFE can't .. suppose thats the advantage of having bjax on the car ..
Old 06 October 2006, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KenS55STI
I don't think you can really know how you'd react unless it happened to you, and it's probably a split second judgment call at that time as to which way you go based on the circumstances you are in at that time. There would be a lot of factors that would potentially influence your decision.

Personally I am only interested in the wellbeing of myself and my family and I don't think that is worth risking for the car so I'd give them the keys unless I felt certain I could fend them off without getting hurt very much. If I did though I'd tell them to make sure they burned it out or wrote it off when they'd finished with it because I wouldn't want it back.

Yes, it's my car, I've spent money on it and I've spent time doing stuff to it just like everyone else, but the bottom line is there are loads of cars so there will be another one. There's only one of me and one of my family so if it comes to the crunch the car will lose every time.

The insurance may not pay you absolutely everything if you have to claim for the cost of a replacement but then they probably won't pay everything if you get it back with worn out tyres, brakes, clutch and an engine that's been over-revved. Speedkings right, but then life's a bitch. .
as what ken said above. my scoob had blackjax at the time of my wifes carjacking and the doors were locked. this was outside a school at 3pm btw. they put a screw driver through the window to unlock the door to drag her out. at the time i was so angry and wanted retribution, but in the end i was glad my young daughter wasn't in the car and my wife was uninjured. at this time you do realise it is just a car,dont get me wrong i loved that car, but that is what it is.i also wish it didnt have blackjax on it because i would rather not had it back. after getting the damage repaired, locks changed the wife was to scared to drive it again,she was the main user. so i chose to get rid of my pride and joy. a hard poll to judge but i think i would give up the keys, from what i have seen if the scum are going to confront a big fella for his keys they will not be afraid to do damage. bit long winded but my opinion.

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Old 06 October 2006, 06:00 PM
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A friend was the victim of an attempted hijacking in London. He fought off two kids in their late teens/early twenties. I wouldn't have put money on him doing that, he's not an agressive person, though he is tall and gangly.

A few weeks later another guy in London resisted a hijacking and got stabbed for his troubles. He died. What would I do? Buggered if I know. I hate the thought of someone walking off with my car keys, but if things happen very quickly I don't know how I'd react.
Old 06 October 2006, 06:04 PM
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let them have it its insured, im not as replacable.

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Old 06 October 2006, 06:42 PM
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Throw my keys on the floor, one picks them up. Gets a hard kick in the head then nut the other one Walk off with a smile
Old 06 October 2006, 11:52 PM
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I'm 24 and have a shaved head, I get the impression that the people who are likely to rob us, consider me to be one of their own.
I do look scallyish no matter how nice my suit is.
I can't see this happening to me, but if it did I like to think I'm make the first move and make sure it hurt
Old 07 October 2006, 11:12 AM
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It would depend whether I thought a) they were tooled up and b) if they weren't, could I deck the biggest one with one punch.

I won't go into too many details but I once got 'confronted' by three lads in the street, wanting trouble. I tried to talk my way out of the situation but it was obvious they were spoiling for a rumble.

So at the first opportunity I lamped the biggest fella with everything I had and knocked him sparko. The other two **** themselves at the site of him going down like a sack of spuds and ran off. Job done.

If however I thought the potential car jackers were carrying, I'd run off with keys safely stored in my pocket.
Old 07 October 2006, 11:21 AM
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I think all this armchair bravado is one thing but in reality you are all mostly honest decent hard working people -these people are NOT the same as you or I - they are prepared to INJURE, MAIM perhaps even KILL to have what they want. In the natural world they would be some kind of feral animal - jackal, wolf, vulture or maurading shark - only at a superficial level do they belong in our society. They are incapable of empathy to other human beings. These people are not simply 'car thieves' - nicholas cage was a car thief in that awful movie - these people are psycopaths, potential murderers evertime they going into battle - they do not care about the human cost or social consequence of their actions. If everyone was like them we would be living in a 'mad max' world scenario where big knife, gun and chainsaw battles were say happening a few times a day in most high streets, in most supermarkets or public areas. The thousands of years of civilised society we have painfully built would begin to collapse.

These people need good old fashioned electro behavioural correction therapy to make them 'smiley happy people' - cruel perhaps but it would actually make them far happier too... - and I'M NOT KIDDING.

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Old 07 October 2006, 04:04 PM
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I had an attempted car jacking on me a couple of years ago now, two lads one pretty big. I was getting in my car after opening the gate at work. Getting back in my car and I hear running footsteps and have two lads trying to pull my door open, when they realise im not letting go (the door was ajar as I couldnt get it closed in time) the big one starts punching me in the head, that just made me more determined not to give up. Anyway by this time the gate had opened enough for me to get through so I managed to get the car in gear and the handbrake off, I got the car moving but the big one tried to get the keys and managed to turn them back a click. I rolled through the gate and they came running but I had got the door shut, locked and the car running again so they fled.
This happened in Liverpool - that evening I think it was either three or four ATM's where done in Liverpool. They had been using high powered saloons to get away - IIRC I think an Audi and a BMW where 2 of the cars used, perhaps they where after mine for this?
For some reason when they where trying to get in the car they didnt open any of the other doors (four door Impreza) so I can only presume they were either to dim to realise they could of done this or they didnt want to get in the car unless I was out of it incase I took them for a drive into work and introduce them to some colleages
Basically I dont think you know how you will react until it happens, looking back at the cctv I appear to be throwing a few punches back but I have no recollection of this? When I think back about it - the sensible thing to do would be to get out and let them have it but on the other hand if I had got out would they have tried to attack me further? All I know that if it happens again I would do the same, unless of course I felt in to much danger as they had a weapon.
I use a shed for work now, probably the best thing I have done as I am no worse off but have a banger if I am going to any dodgy areas or the tip
Old 07 October 2006, 04:59 PM
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i'd give them the keys happily in a second. i'd rather let them take my car than risk leaving my son without a dad. i'd hope that karma exists and that something really bad happens to them afterwards though

i do however have the benefit of being 6"2, 17 stone, shaved head and covered in tattoos which up until now has always helped..............

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Old 07 October 2006, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
I don't understand this ...

In my experience the insurance payout is far less than you need to buy another similar car, it takes ages to get the money, in the meantime you are on the bus or inconveniencing your mates, you lose all your CDs, gloves, roadmaps etc., and get nothing towards replacement, you have to hunt high and low for a new car, time consuming and expensive, which is never quite as good as your old one, your insurance premium will increase the next year, and forever more you know that some toerag has got the benefit of your hardearned. There are probably other factors that I've forgotten.

It's not just a car, in my case it represents years of hard work that I don't want to go through again.

Resist
100% agree, why should i give some fcum sucker my hard earned car.!

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Old 07 October 2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by itfcdamo

i do however have the benefit of being 6"2, 17 stone, shaved head and covered in tattoos which up until now has always helped..............

Glad that you seem to conform to the General Scoobynet stats.
Old 07 October 2006, 05:24 PM
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I have not read all the replys on this post, but about 5 years ago i had a friend who was stabbed to death with a screwdriver after he ran out to confront car thieves. They were not after his Scooby as it was secure, it was a cheaper car of his. I would always put up a fight but just remember my friend left a wife and two kids.
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Originally Posted by theboy
I have not read all the replys on this post, but about 5 years ago i had a friend who was stabbed to death with a screwdriver after he ran out to confront car thieves. They were not after his Scooby as it was secure, it was a cheaper car of his. I would always put up a fight but just remember my friend left a wife and two kids.
my point exactly. i always say it doesn't matter how "hard" you are your not tougher than a knife, and you never know what people are prepared to do.......read the news, people get killed everyday over less things than cars.
Old 07 October 2006, 05:50 PM
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No fighter myself but don'tfancy giving in that easily. I run marathons for fun so I'm good for 26 miles, if they're still after me then I'll give them the keys.
Old 07 October 2006, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ALE
No fighter myself but don'tfancy giving in that easily. I run marathons for fun so I'm good for 26 miles, if they're still after me then I'll give them the keys.
if there still behind u after 26 miles they shouldn't need the car!
Old 07 October 2006, 06:21 PM
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**** em **** em all i say , Theres no way some scummy little c~#t should take anything of mine , stand and fight , if it gets a little nasty i.e weapons etc then run like **** (keys in hand ) and hope they dont take it out on your motor


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Originally Posted by sparky d
**** em **** em all i say , Theres no way some scummy little c~#t should take anything of mine , stand and fight , if it gets a little nasty i.e weapons etc then run like **** (keys in hand ) and hope they dont take it out on your motor


Dave
doesn't always work like that........about 12 years ago a friend of mine had his rs turbo keyed in an arguement over a girl. he knew who did it and took another guy along with him to the blokes house. (actually it was his parents house) anyway, the guy answered the door with a knife in his hand, they turned and ran. he chased them and stabbed them both, shoulder, thighs, **** wherever he could. they both dropped like stones. they both lived to tell the tale and the guy was put away. still didn't stop them spending a long time in hospital though......all because of scratches
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Originally Posted by doppelganger
i can see the headlines already,STUPID SUBARU DRIVER DOESNT HAND CAR KEYS OVER AND GETS STABBED TO DEATH.cos next week the only people that will remember are the people reading it while eating there chips .

i reckon just stand and scream as loud as you can
i'm in newmarket too
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I would like to say put up a fight, however I am man enough to admit being a wimp. I would probably ask them if they wanted some cash for petrol (and ask them to use Optimax!!!)


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