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Old 15 October 2006, 01:22 AM
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lol if you start shouting at the owner be prepared for the german shephard to **** you sideways Talk about giving the dog a reason to bite you.
Old 15 October 2006, 08:40 AM
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This dog sound to me like the typical cowardly agressive dog. This type of dog will often try and attack another dog if that other dog is on a lead, but not if it is let loose. The best thing your sister could have done is to let go of the lead when she saw the dog aproaching. Two possible things will then happen. Her dog will get a chance to run away, or stand and fight. Either way, she shouldn't get involved with what happens.
The likely outcome of a fight against a staffie would certainly make it think twice about attacking again.
I also think your sister was wrong not to report the incident, and the guy should learn how to control his dog.



If the police are unwilling to do anything, report him for cruelty to the RSPCA.
Old 15 October 2006, 12:06 PM
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I get the impression that the police do not wish to waste their precious office time in protecting the public anymore. But they are very quick to arrest schoolgirls accused wrongly of racism!

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Old 15 October 2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scunnered
This dog sound to me like the typical cowardly agressive dog. This type of dog will often try and attack another dog if that other dog is on a lead, but not if it is let loose. The best thing your sister could have done is to let go of the lead when she saw the dog aproaching. Two possible things will then happen. Her dog will get a chance to run away, or stand and fight. Either way, she shouldn't get involved with what happens.
The likely outcome of a fight against a staffie would certainly make it think twice about attacking again.
I also think your sister was wrong not to report the incident, and the guy should learn how to control his dog.



If the police are unwilling to do anything, report him for cruelty to the RSPCA.
i`ll put a tenner on the staffie on a more serious note my brother in law had a similar prob with a large dog in his street, so for his kids safety (as the dog was always gettin out) he through a piece of beef over the fence with some added ingredients
Old 15 October 2006, 12:46 PM
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I don't think the Police have any responsibilities these days other than maintaining civil obediance and loyalty to the State. When was the last time you actually heard of a Police force solving some crime?
Old 15 October 2006, 01:02 PM
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I wouldn't give a **** about the other dog. If one attacks mine i'll kick the crap out of it. Maybe it's not the dog's fault but if it hurts something close to me then I'll protect whats mine.

All this talk of instinct is rubbish. I know rotties that are soft as **** because they have been brought up properly. The owner has everything to do with a dog's temprement.

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Old 15 October 2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
If I come across him and his ******* flee bitten mutt, then the outcome will be a whole lot different.
What? You'll get your **** bitten instead of your sister this time?
Old 15 October 2006, 01:36 PM
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'He said my sister should have took her dog off the lead. In other word, so their dogs could fight.'

I meet plenty of dog owners like your sister most days who keep their stupid dogs on the lead alday. wtf is the point of having a dog if you ain't going to let it off the lead? DOGS need exercise! yours is getting none! When my dog goes near their dog they start frothing at the mouth saying 'get your ******* dog on a lead'. My reply' take your ******* dog off the lead and socialise it.' My dog occasionally has the odd bark at other dogs but we GET OVER IT!!!!! SOme retarded owners even pick their dogs up when there's the odd barny. How pathetic. 99% of the time the dogs will have a snarl and then just carry on.

My advice to your sister go somewhere where no one walks their dogs!
Old 15 October 2006, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Oh right..........so loony dogs that attack others are OK, it's just the owner's fault for not stopping it?

Perhaps we ought to have put Peter Sutcliffe's mother and father in prison then, after all, he was just obeying an instinct?



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Oh so you would have kept him as a a pet then?
Old 15 October 2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Oh so you would have kept him as a a pet then?
'S what we ARE doing, isn't it?

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Old 15 October 2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
'S what we ARE doing, isn't it?

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Are you implying a bullet to the brain would have been more appropriate?
Old 15 October 2006, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jaydut
i`ll put a tenner on the staffie on a more serious note my brother in law had a similar prob with a large dog in his street, so for his kids safety (as the dog was always gettin out) he through a piece of beef over the fence with some added ingredients
Lucky one of the kids/cats/birds or anything but the dog didn't eat it

If it was always getting out could he not just have given it the beef?
Old 16 October 2006, 10:11 AM
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Update.

First off. My sisters dog gets loads of exercise. He was on the lead as she was about to walk into the street. It had been running around the field for ages before the incident.
As for next time when I take the dog out for a walk. I wear steel toe capped boots for walking him, so a good hard kick to the ribs of the dog will hurt. Plus the Staffie always has a stick so I'd happily use that too.
If I'd been walking the dog at the time, he wouldn't have been on the lead. My sister has less confidence in it obeying her than I do in it obeying me. It does what ever I say. Alfa male and all that.

She went to the Police Yesterday to make a statement.

What happened? Nothing. They said that if it happenes again, she should come back down and make another statement. They will then go and have a word. Brilliant !!!!! So this guy can continue to let his dog attack other dogs, and their owners (if they happen to be in the way) and the Police may do something next time.
If it rips some little girls face off, I'll make damn sure the parents know that a statement had already been made to the police about the dog.

All this "we can't do anything without your sisters statement" crap meant nothing. Now they have her statement, they still won't do anything.

My statement at the start was correct. Police. Useless bunch of F**ks

I'll be phoning the RSPCA now. See what they say
Old 16 October 2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Are you implying a bullet to the brain would have been more appropriate?
No mate, I'm saying that HE got prosecuted for what HE did............not his parents, not his wife, not his employer, not society. It wasn't any of those peoples' faults, just like it's not the dogowner's fault.

If a dog bites, REPEATEDLY, it wants killing. End of Whether it's other dogs, people, I don't care, there's summat up with it.

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Old 16 October 2006, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Update.

All this "we can't do anything without your sisters statement" crap meant nothing. Now they have her statement, they still won't do anything.

My statement at the start was correct. Police. Useless bunch of F**ks

I'll be phoning the RSPCA now. See what they say
Doesn't surprise me

She did tell them the dog was speeding when it attacked didn't she?

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Old 16 October 2006, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Doesn't surprise me

She did tell them the dog was speeding when it attacked didn't she?

Alcazar
I made that comment (or very similar) when I first went down to make a statement. They weren't amused
Old 16 October 2006, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I made that comment (or very similar) when I first went down to make a statement. They weren't amused
No...........they won't be, and they'll be annoyed that people think like that, and unable to understand why

After all, they are "only obeying orders" aren't they?

Trouble is, mate, that cut no ice in 1945, let alone now...........

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Old 16 October 2006, 10:38 AM
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'As for next time when I take the dog out for a walk. I wear steel toe capped boots for walking him, so a good hard kick to the ribs of the dog will hurt. Plus the Staffie always has a stick so I'd happily use that too.'

This thread makes u sound likes a right pr*ck. Your going on about some insignificant incident. Dogs will have the occasional snarl at each other. The owner even apologized so is aware of his dogs actions-maybe he didnt have time to grab his dog before he saw your sisters on the stupid lead.

Stop dwelling on it like the retarded fool u appear to be. If u hit my dog, i'd have no hesitation to drop you straight away. As i've said before if you want zero confrontation go out at midnight coz these threads make you look like a pathetic bitter sap you are.

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Originally Posted by Evo6SAMI
'As for next time when I take the dog out for a walk. I wear steel toe capped boots for walking him, so a good hard kick to the ribs of the dog will hurt. Plus the Staffie always has a stick so I'd happily use that too.'

This thread makes u sound likes a right pr*ck. Your going on about some insignificant incident. Dogs will have the occasional snarl at each other. The owner even apologized so is aware of his dogs actions-maybe he didnt have time to grab his dog before he saw your sisters on the stupid lead.

Stop dwelling on it like the retarded fool u appear to be. If u hit my dog, i'd have no hesitation to drop you straight away. As i've said before if you want zero confrontation go out at midnight coz these threads make you look like a pathetic bitter sap you are.
It's not just a one off. This dog is aggressive to any dog he comes across. The guy promised he'd put a muzzle on his dog from now on. He hasn't done it. He's still walking it around un-muzzled, which to me Say's he really couldn't give a ****.
My mother was telling me yesterday that other residents who walk their dogs are scared of this dog, and also believe it just hasn't been trained at all.
An aggressive dog biting other dogs, and owners who happen to be in it's way is far from an insignificant incident
No doubt the owners of those two rotties a few week ago told everybody that their dogs were soft as ****, and wouldn't hurt a fly. Then one day.........

All I was saying regarding steel toe capped boots and stick, was that if this guys dogs come running over to attack the dog, then I'll kick his dog. What is wrong with that? Yes, a staffie would probably win in a fight, but I don't want him fighting. Is that wrong?
This guy needs to train his dog, and if it attacks again, then I'll make that very clear to him.

I can't believe there are people on here that think an aggressive untrained dog attacking other dogs (and owners) is nothing.

Just been onto the RSPCA, and ................. nothing

They told me to make a report to the police. Even after I told them the police have a statement and still won't do anything, they said there was nothing they could do.

Yet like I said before. Someone can accuse you of speeding (without proof) yet the police are at your front door within an hour.
The law is an ***.
Old 16 October 2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo6SAMI

Stop dwelling on it like the retarded fool u appear to be. If u hit my dog, i'd have no hesitation to drop you straight away. As i've said before if you want zero confrontation go out at midnight coz these threads make you look like a pathetic bitter sap you are.
So you would be happy for your dog to attack another dog, yet when the owner of the dog that's been attacked kicked your dog, you go over and deck the owner????????????????????????

There's only one Pr1ck on here, and that's you. Fcukwit
Old 16 October 2006, 11:09 AM
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Simon Gawthorpe,

Many people post here about the police from their own experiences of calling the police to attend a crime of some kind and meeting with no cooperation and possibly a copper turning up a couple of days later. But they leap on normally law abiding people because they are much easier to convict of a minor aberration.

What then do you expect the public to say about your force led by politicised and grossly PC senior officers?

Les

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Originally Posted by Leslie
Simon Gawthorpe,

Many people post here about the police from their own experiemces of calling the police to attend a crime of some kind and meeting with no cooperation and possibly a copper turning up a couple of days later. But they leap on normally law abiding people because they are much easier to convict of a minor aberration.

What then do you expect the public to say about your force led by politicised and grossly PC senior officers?

Les
See my post above on "only obeying orders"........

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Old 16 October 2006, 11:40 AM
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Very illuminating article in one of the Sunday newspapers-can't remember which one, by a serving copper who desperately wants to do the job he is established for with no support from his seniors or his contempories who prefer to sit in the office or the canteen rather than take action with respect to crimes.

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Old 16 October 2006, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonGawthorpe
my Police force solves around 25% of all crime reported to it
Whoop-de-*******-do............ what an impressive detection rate, NOT

So don't discuss something you obviously know nothing about!! You only know what the press tells you and they only like to report failures because they sell more papers!!
And with a detection rate that dizzyingly high I'd say you twots know **** all about the law either..........
Old 16 October 2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonGawthorpe
Leslie,

You are correct. I just think it is a real problem in society that the public have such a perception of the Police without knowing the full facts. The problem is that most people only have contact with the Police A) When they are caught speeding or B) When they are burgled and the Police don't come out immediately.

What you don't understand or even don't know about is all the hard work that does go on behind the scenes to solve crime and/or prevent it in the first place.

I hope that you do realise that a lot of it is a failing much higher up the chain which your average beat bobby etc can do nothing about. People starting off threads like the one we are typing in eg slagging off the Police in general is unjustified and wrong. There are failings in the Police like any other public service organisation but just randomly stating that "all Police are *****" without exploring whos fault it really is, isn't going to get us anywhere. The same could be said for your first comment, which is just totally incorrect.

Simon
That all sounds good but I have caught people breaking and entering with 6 wintesses and CCTV and then told the police the name and address of one of the people involved and what did they do. Nothing no arrest no investigation would not even go round and talk to his dad who would have given him a beating for being a theiving toe rag. I live in a small village and recently there have been a petrol bombing, muggings, random attacks on old people you name it. Not to mention the amount of car theft vandalism and breaking and entering. It has reached a point where local people now have to hand out thier own justice. This is not some council estate its a quiett and expensive place to live but a complete lack of police interest has ecouraged every scumbag and pikey from miles around to come here to cause trouble. How it came to be that a pleasant village in Buckingham has ended up with people being mugged in the street and set on fire I don't know but if the police had listend 2 years ago when people complained of massive crime rates then it would not have happend.
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
best bet is to get some muslim headgear on, and run up and kill the dog
Nearly got it but the wording was a little wrong....

"best idea is to get some muslim headgear on, and run up and BEHEAD the dog "
Old 16 October 2006, 02:04 PM
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Yes, call yourself a DCI? Pathetic
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Originally Posted by SimonGawthorpe
Oh dear, you really don't know very much about the law do you! Every single crime reported to the Police is given a crime number. That includes every stolen Mars Bar, every punch that hits someone in a nightclub brawl etc.
So you solve 25% of ALL crime! again, whoop-de-do! it doesn't matter a **** about what 'counts' as a crime, it's still the fact that you useless bunch of clowns only manage to solve 1 in 4 'reported' crimes....... AND YOU THINK THAT'S GOOD

I think you will find that bringing an offender to justice for 25% of all crime in a large city is pretty impressive. You try and do better!!

Si
Why should I........... I actually did rather well at school so didn't need to join the police...... it's you're job, that's what you're paid to do, so maybe you should get on with it..... and if you feel you aren't up to it ...... resign

DCI Gene Hunt.......... that's 'Sir' to you Gawthorpe.....
Old 16 October 2006, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonGawthorpe
Oh dear, you really don't know very much about the law do you! Every single crime reported to the Police is given a crime number. That includes every stolen Mars Bar, every punch that hits someone in a nightclub brawl etc.

I think you will find that bringing an offender to justice for 25% of all crime in a large city is pretty impressive. You try and do better!!

Si
Apparently neither do you. I was a victim of Credit card fraud a few years ago. I reported it to the Police, and some days later, at the request of my Credit card company, went back to the Police for a crime number.
Lo and behold they hadn't given it a crime number. They'd registered it as an inquiry. I'd inquired that I'd been a victim of Credit card fraud.

Obviously published crime figures should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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this is really, everyones fighting with each other now!! lol why dont we have a scoobynet boxing night??????


stilover, as long as all you wanted was the police to go round and talk to this guy then fine, your right to expect this, but they arnt going to do anymore becasue its one persons word v another!


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