MY06 WRX Vs Focus ST
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Originally Posted by mikepaul
ABSOLUTE RUBBISH: Focus ST would not stand a chance against an M3. Even a 300Bhp old shape scobby (1260kg) would struggle to stay with 340bhp M3 (1550kg), the Focus ST3 is 1390kg.
Sorry but this statement is absolute twaddle.
Have you heard of power to weight ratio?
M3 has a very advanced LSD, in fact the very best LCD and has amazing traction.
To compare a FWD against an M3 is a joke! To can't tell me you think a Ford is better engineered than an M3 and it faster in the real world.
I accept a WRX 06 v ST 225 may be close, but an M3!!
Sorry but this statement is absolute twaddle.
Have you heard of power to weight ratio?
M3 has a very advanced LSD, in fact the very best LCD and has amazing traction.
To compare a FWD against an M3 is a joke! To can't tell me you think a Ford is better engineered than an M3 and it faster in the real world.
I accept a WRX 06 v ST 225 may be close, but an M3!!
Given these figures - and even the "very best LSD" I doubt the M3 would stay with the scoob?
Of course if your figures are wrong............................?
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Well when I had my Focus RS (pre-Blufin) I had a play with an M3 on a dual carriage way, and although he pulled away from me, it wasn't at a very considerable speed. When I had it Blufin'd it would have been even less. So a modded St would easily give an M3 a good run, if not beat it.
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Originally Posted by westy04
Having an ST and have driven a WRX, WR1 and a classic type RA.
In a straight line. The ST would have the WRX at any speed ONCE rolling. Off the mark then obviously the WRX would be quicker, but I reckon the ST would start to reel it in after that.
In the dry, the ST would keep up with the WRX on the twisties, but would struggle when wet.
Edited to add. Just noticed you said MY06, I drove the MY05 not the MY06. Sorry.
In a straight line. The ST would have the WRX at any speed ONCE rolling. Off the mark then obviously the WRX would be quicker, but I reckon the ST would start to reel it in after that.
In the dry, the ST would keep up with the WRX on the twisties, but would struggle when wet.
Edited to add. Just noticed you said MY06, I drove the MY05 not the MY06. Sorry.
I had a little do with a 06 plate ST last week as it goes.
The fella had his tasty Lady at the side of him as we joined the M1/A1 link road.
As soon as we got on the Motorway he stayed in the Middle lane, I just went straight into the outside and blitzed him.
We both pulled off at the next junction, up the slip road and both had to wait to pull off.
His Mrs looked out of the passenger window & smiled, I just winked with a straight face and pulled away, cool as you like.
Nice looking Girl, slow Car.
Oh yes, he had one of those Nuremburg stickers on the back, I think he fancied himself as a bit of a speed demon.
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Originally Posted by lightwave693
with the 06wrx being a 2.5 i would naturally think it would be more powerful than my 98uk, most other scoobys are...
As for ST vs M3 debate, a modded ST with 280bhp (easy enough with chip & intercooler) could have ~200bhp/tonne and a very wide torque curve, so it's not surprising if it can keep very close to a 219bhp/tonne BMW with a slgihtly peakier delivery, especially if the driver is a touch sharper. Remember too the ST doesn't have the higher transmission losses you get in a Scoob . . . . Of course, off the line particularly in the damp, 4WD will beat RWD will beat FWD, but how many times do people really launch their scoobs?
Horses for courses etc. I can see some significant benefits to the ST; although to my mind its main competitors are the VXR and forthcoming Leon Cupra (when that gets ~240bhp), it does a similar type of job to the WRX, being better at some things but worse at others. Compare one to a good STi / spec C, let alone a highly modified or Type 25, it'll lose, but that's not exactly a level playing field, is it?
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scooby are a diffent kettle of fish. they are a top class rally car made for the road and i love them for that. even though i do like there new EVO 320. but dont know anything about it. maybe you peps could tell me how good/bad they are.
id like to see how a WXR vs ST round a track. think evo have done it this month but with a STI and it can back around 7 secs faster.
also can you get a 02 plate 3 door scooby my GF is on about she got 1 comming that is going to blow me out the water. lol.
id like to see how a WXR vs ST round a track. think evo have done it this month but with a STI and it can back around 7 secs faster.
also can you get a 02 plate 3 door scooby my GF is on about she got 1 comming that is going to blow me out the water. lol.
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Please tell me you're the bloke in the orange ST that I owned when you first bought it around the Romrord area
remember? turning at North street lights? Shot through Petits lane and I backed off....then you shot past.....??
If not, i'm in the Essex area and would love to play.....
Please tell me you're the bloke in the orange ST that I owned when you first bought it around the Romrord area
remember? turning at North street lights? Shot through Petits lane and I backed off....then you shot past.....??
If not, i'm in the Essex area and would love to play.....
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Are you sure??
I was in a Blue bug eye??
If not, shout me when your about......
then again, just seen your reflection and don't think it is you.....however my offer still stands....
I was in a Blue bug eye??
If not, shout me when your about......
then again, just seen your reflection and don't think it is you.....however my offer still stands....
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Well a boot is a boot.....i'm normally buzzing around with a couple of rex's, FQ340's and the like.... (if the rex's last their 20k miles before the pop )
Not about until next week now but will have to as it always interesting to pit cars against eachother
Not about until next week now but will have to as it always interesting to pit cars against eachother
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ill send you a pm with my mob number so then you can give me a txt if u want a play next week. think ill have to bring the GF she is a really scooby nut. and it would be nice to see a few scooby bodys put her in her place. as i know F all about scoobies. (she has spent the last 7 year on and off rally driving them) . yes it sucks having a GF that can drive better than you!
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ha ha ha lol
Chance would be a fine thing....my girl hates anything fast but she's coming round to it....
No probs fella, she'll probably know more than me!
and I may well end up selling her mine
Chance would be a fine thing....my girl hates anything fast but she's coming round to it....
No probs fella, she'll probably know more than me!
and I may well end up selling her mine
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