Old standard Rear Disc
09 November 2006, 06:41 AM
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Tony it will be a massive improvement on the standard set up, even though the Brembo's themself are 4 pots they are much more efficiant and the pad to disc coverage is a lot more, Danny, Dean and Gazz are running front one's and they are all more than happy. The main thing to consider when fitting is what wheels you are running as not all will fit over them.
As for fitting Tony I'm no expert... I'll be having a word with one of my friends to help out plus the modified parts for rear fitting will be made by in work by one of the engineers. Dean's looking into rear fitting as well so hopefully when we get them done we will have a drawing for the parts needed for anyone to replicate plus a thread showing the proccess.
There are a couple of threads on here at the moment from Scott.t and Rentonone which are quite comprehensive, have a look it will give you some insight.
As for fitting Tony I'm no expert... I'll be having a word with one of my friends to help out plus the modified parts for rear fitting will be made by in work by one of the engineers. Dean's looking into rear fitting as well so hopefully when we get them done we will have a drawing for the parts needed for anyone to replicate plus a thread showing the proccess.
There are a couple of threads on here at the moment from Scott.t and Rentonone which are quite comprehensive, have a look it will give you some insight.
09 November 2006, 09:34 AM
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They are a piece of p!ss to fit the fronts, the hardest bit is undoing the two bolts that holds the old one on. Me and Daz did mine, we would of had them done in a hour but had trouble with a seized bolt.
Make sure you get new bolts from greg when you collect the brakes. as the old ones don't fit
Make sure you get new bolts from greg when you collect the brakes. as the old ones don't fit
10 November 2006, 06:12 PM
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Got some ally sorted to do the brackets, cut to the right size ready and the best bit is it was free 
Just got to find time to machine them now and save up the cash to buy the rear setup.
Just got to find time to machine them now and save up the cash to buy the rear setup.
11 November 2006, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Your getting some gear ready then Dean 
Just waiting to see what you come up with to solve the disc/hub problem out, may be worth having a chat to Godspeed.
11 November 2006, 07:54 PM
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Dean check this out...
CLICKY
I'm not fully aware on how all the parts interact together at the moment but I've asked for some standard new age OEM pictures... I was talking with someone today that suggested what possibly could be a viable alternative for mounting the calipers. The suggestion was getting hold of a pair of new age disc/dust gaurds and converting them to fit ours.... this would give us more the OEM mounting point ?
I'm still trying to understand how all this slots together... this may be worth looking deeper into... what's your thoughts on this angle ?
CLICKY
I'm not fully aware on how all the parts interact together at the moment but I've asked for some standard new age OEM pictures... I was talking with someone today that suggested what possibly could be a viable alternative for mounting the calipers. The suggestion was getting hold of a pair of new age disc/dust gaurds and converting them to fit ours.... this would give us more the OEM mounting point ?
I'm still trying to understand how all this slots together... this may be worth looking deeper into... what's your thoughts on this angle ?
12 November 2006, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by turboDean
Yeap planning ahead, got the ally, got some M10 bolts sorted, should be able to use the milling machine in work.
Just waiting to see what you come up with to solve the disc/hub problem out, may be worth having a chat to Godspeed.
Just waiting to see what you come up with to solve the disc/hub problem out, may be worth having a chat to Godspeed.
I've been advised to freeze the insert then press it in the hub, it will then warm up and expand, finish that off with a few grub screws and the jobs a good one. I'm off on Tuesday and have a few hours free in the morning so I'm tempted to go and see Andy to see if he has any advice for this job.Do Subaru do a Brembo gold touch up stick by chance ?
12 November 2006, 08:31 PM
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Can't see any problems with making the bracket may involve a bit of trial and error but it can't be that hard.
How is Clive planning on cutting out a perfect fit steel ring? can't think of a way to do it. Once the ring is made to the right size shouldn't be a problem to press it in, freeze the insert and warm up the disc and press it in.
How is Clive planning on cutting out a perfect fit steel ring? can't think of a way to do it. Once the ring is made to the right size shouldn't be a problem to press it in, freeze the insert and warm up the disc and press it in.
12 November 2006, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by turboDean
Can't see any problems with making the bracket may involve a bit of trial and error but it can't be that hard.
How is Clive planning on cutting out a perfect fit steel ring? can't think of a way to do it. Once the ring is made to the right size shouldn't be a problem to press it in, freeze the insert and warm up the disc and press it in.
How is Clive planning on cutting out a perfect fit steel ring? can't think of a way to do it. Once the ring is made to the right size shouldn't be a problem to press it in, freeze the insert and warm up the disc and press it in.
I'll take the disc in with me on Wednesday then and we can have a look at it, needs to be reduced from 190mm to 170mm by the look of things.
12 November 2006, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Do Subaru do a Brembo gold touch up stick by chance ?
has given me the answer to this question Right where is the nearest Honda dealer ?
Apparently this is a near perfect match.....
Honda Inca Pearl, paint code Y-61P, part number 08703-Y61PPAH
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13 November 2006, 09:50 AM
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You can get touch up paint from a subaru dealer for the brembo gold.
Watching this thread with interest. If you guys have any spare metal left over and fancy running me up a batch, i don't mind paying to wards cost
Watching this thread with interest. If you guys have any spare metal left over and fancy running me up a batch, i don't mind paying to wards cost
13 November 2006, 12:07 PM
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I don't think I'm going to be able to get another lot knocked up in work as this will be a big enough challenge to do low key as it is 
what we will do though is to make sure there will be a drawing available for future referance
Subaru do a touch up then... that's handy as it's closer than a Honda dealer
what we will do though is to make sure there will be a drawing available for future referance Subaru do a touch up then... that's handy as it's closer than a Honda dealer
13 November 2006, 07:52 PM
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Right got a question for you..... lets say the reducer is made of steel and pressed into the inner hub.
I would then prefer to anchor that in firm with a couple of grub screws to make sure there is no possible movment.
The disc balance needs to be looked at I assume ? Would you agree on two grub screws weighed out so they are as close as possible then drill and tap them at 180 degrees from each other.
I would then prefer to anchor that in firm with a couple of grub screws to make sure there is no possible movment.
The disc balance needs to be looked at I assume ? Would you agree on two grub screws weighed out so they are as close as possible then drill and tap them at 180 degrees from each other.
13 November 2006, 08:17 PM
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Are disc's balanced? Really can't see the weight of a grub screw causing any problems, the difference in weight between the meterial drill/taped out and the weight of a grub screw would be very small.
But personally i'd probably go for 4 grub screws equally spaced round the disc.
But personally i'd probably go for 4 grub screws equally spaced round the disc.
13 November 2006, 08:37 PM
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I had a quick talk with Clark (patrolman) earlier he raised this part of the topic.
Personally I'm not fully sure how much a difference it would make Dean but thought it was well worth throwing it in the discussion to see what the general feelings were on it.
The whole thing is probably a good question thinking of it Kev 
Personally I'm not fully sure how much a difference it would make Dean but thought it was well worth throwing it in the discussion to see what the general feelings were on it.
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A question for Martin over the road I feel
13 November 2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Subaru do a touch up then... that's handy as it's closer than a Honda dealer
14 November 2006, 04:31 PM
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Now we are cooking on GAS !!!
Thanks Gazz
Well what a massive stroke of luck this morning
I popped up to see Andy to run it past him as well as book for a service...
He has not seen this brembo mod before but has seen similar ideas with other sorts of set up's, and as long as we look at the concept of the bracket cut out to fit within the housing he is happy to assist.
To top it all off he said.... "let me see a minute" and then reappeard with the complete hub housing and then after checking it over on the bench and measuring under the car following that with a phone call he gave it the "this is the one you need" then dissapearing again he came back with the disc as well
Now we can set it all up on the workbench... that should make life 1000 times easier
So a massive thanks to Andy for that
Dean... ref the balancing of the disc, Andy said it may need it and it may not it's a difficult one to answer.... as you have said drop 4 evenly spaced grub screws in around the hub and we may get away with it. If we do know someone with a balancer and the knowedge on how to balance it would not hurt to get them checked over at all.
Well what a massive stroke of luck this morning
I popped up to see Andy to run it past him as well as book for a service...
He has not seen this brembo mod before but has seen similar ideas with other sorts of set up's, and as long as we look at the concept of the bracket cut out to fit within the housing he is happy to assist.
To top it all off he said.... "let me see a minute" and then reappeard with the complete hub housing and then after checking it over on the bench and measuring under the car following that with a phone call he gave it the "this is the one you need" then dissapearing again he came back with the disc as well
Now we can set it all up on the workbench... that should make life 1000 times easier
So a massive thanks to Andy for that
Dean... ref the balancing of the disc, Andy said it may need it and it may not it's a difficult one to answer.... as you have said drop 4 evenly spaced grub screws in around the hub and we may get away with it. If we do know someone with a balancer and the knowedge on how to balance it would not hurt to get them checked over at all.
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14 November 2006, 05:15 PM
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Would you be able to check it on a wheel balancing machine? if so that's not a problem.
Could always check the disk before modifying it then after just to compare.
Si can you bring the hub along to the next meet for me to have a closer look at ? I planning on starting the bracket on thursday just drilling the holes in the right places, then go from there.
Could always check the disk before modifying it then after just to compare.
Si can you bring the hub along to the next meet for me to have a closer look at ? I planning on starting the bracket on thursday just drilling the holes in the right places, then go from there.
14 November 2006, 05:19 PM
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Yes will do Dean I'm taking it all to work with me tomorrow to have a look at but I'll bring it along on Thursday as well.
We have a balancing machine in work but I've no idea if this will fit on or if it will be any use for this job... I'll have a look closer to see.
Originally Posted by turboDean
Would you be able to check it on a wheel balancing machine? if so that's not a problem.
Could always check the disk before modifying it then after just to compare.
Could always check the disk before modifying it then after just to compare.
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17 November 2006, 01:35 PM
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If you are fitting the STi rears , Ian at Godspeed has had some shoes made up that are thicker than the standard shoes which will fit the larger drum of the STI 316mm disc , so you dont need to have a insert made and fitted to the disc , so simple eh !
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17 November 2006, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by awd wrx
If you are fitting the STi rears , Ian at Godspeed has had some shoes made up that are thicker than the standard shoes which will fit the larger drum of the STI 316mm disc , so you dont need to have a insert made and fitted to the disc , so simple eh !
17 November 2006, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Very interesting.... I'm half way through making my inserts at the moment but would be interested to see how much these larger brake shoes actually cost.
Group buy???
