Old standard Rear Disc
21 November 2006, 01:54 PM
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Just a though but woundn't it be best to purchase 2001 onwards 316mm disc from the Budeye STi as these will fit directly over the handbrake a rear hub without any modifications. You would only require a caliper mounting bracket in order to extend the fixing point for the caliper and when your discs wear out you can purchase a direct replacements for 130 pounds. This would avoid the hassle of pressing a insert to ensure a secure fit everytime your discs wear out.
21 November 2006, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rob79
what about brake reline services in cardiff, they reline pads,shoes,cluches.
if you got a shoe they would be able to putt a thicker linning on the shoe
if you got a shoe they would be able to putt a thicker linning on the shoe
21 November 2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bluerigster
Just a though but woundn't it be best to purchase 2001 onwards 316mm disc from the Budeye STi as these will fit directly over the handbrake a rear hub without any modifications. You would only require a caliper mounting bracket in order to extend the fixing point for the caliper and when your discs wear out you can purchase a direct replacements for 130 pounds. This would avoid the hassle of pressing a insert to ensure a secure fit everytime your discs wear out.
I thought brembo disc's 2001-2004 were all the same and the only difference after that was the PCD change.
21 November 2006, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by turboDean
Did bugeye STI's have the 170mm handbrake drum then???
I thought brembo disc's 2001-2004 were all the same and the only difference after that was the PCD change.
I thought brembo disc's 2001-2004 were all the same and the only difference after that was the PCD change.
I thought the same, If it was that easy, I'm sure more poeple would of done it already
21 November 2006, 08:13 PM
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My discs are from an 06 and the PCD has been re drilled and as Kev has said I have moved away from an insert and decided to just get the larger shoes to bring the handbrake from 170mm to the 190mm of the 06 hub.
If the bugeye sti are 170mm ?? that is a good option for anyone looking to do this upgrade that has not got the parts but since I have and they are all brand new I just as well go with what I have here.
As Danny say's I'm sure this would have been discussed if it was the case.
If the bugeye sti are 170mm ?? that is a good option for anyone looking to do this upgrade that has not got the parts but since I have and they are all brand new I just as well go with what I have here.
As Danny say's I'm sure this would have been discussed if it was the case.
21 November 2006, 08:24 PM
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When I think of it I may have found a Brembo touch up paint 
I'm just talking with a Honda dealer that sells on the bay, they are looking to see if they can get hold of the paint code found on NASIOC only thing is it's an american colour so they are checking... there is a european one very similar that should be available so I'll go with that if needed, it's virtuallly the same.... and I can order on line which will save some work.
I'll post my findings as I'm sure one or two may be interested.
I did ask in Halford's, they had it on file but they do not stock one of the base pearlesant colours so that was a short lived idea
I'm just talking with a Honda dealer that sells on the bay, they are looking to see if they can get hold of the paint code found on NASIOC only thing is it's an american colour so they are checking... there is a european one very similar that should be available so I'll go with that if needed, it's virtuallly the same.... and I can order on line which will save some work.
I'll post my findings as I'm sure one or two may be interested.I did ask in Halford's, they had it on file but they do not stock one of the base pearlesant colours so that was a short lived idea
22 November 2006, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by awd wrx
all the STi brembo rear discs have a 190mm drum , not 170mm
24 November 2006, 12:14 PM
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Godspeed starting to sell thicker shoes for 190mm discs.
Here some info taken about Godspeed carring out a simular idea to Simon's by using thicker shoes. Also quotes that bugeye's handbrake drums are 170mm and not 190mm?.
Originally Posted by awd wrx
Been around to Godspeed this morning and have seen the new kit that fits the Newage 2 pots and STi brembo's on the rear of a classic .
The Subaru 2 pots are very easy to fit as the 290mm discs have the same size handbrake as the classic 266mm discs , but the STi's have been a problem up until now as the handbrake is larger at 190mm compared to the bugeye's and classics 170mm drum.
I have seen various sites trying out inserts ect to make the drum smaller , some work and some dont , the main problem is fixing it in properly so on a hill the insert doesnt slip in the drum making it useless , seen others fitting grub screws and bolts ect , but that may make the ballance way out then , and with all that comes a load of work to do , also meaning expence.
Godspeeds answer to this problem , he's had thicker shoe's made to fill up the 190mm drum , so fricking easy its scarey
There is no modification to fit them , fairly cheap to get , so you had better start buying all those cheap rear brembo's kits flying around that no one thinks will fit.
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The Subaru 2 pots are very easy to fit as the 290mm discs have the same size handbrake as the classic 266mm discs , but the STi's have been a problem up until now as the handbrake is larger at 190mm compared to the bugeye's and classics 170mm drum.
I have seen various sites trying out inserts ect to make the drum smaller , some work and some dont , the main problem is fixing it in properly so on a hill the insert doesnt slip in the drum making it useless , seen others fitting grub screws and bolts ect , but that may make the ballance way out then , and with all that comes a load of work to do , also meaning expence.
Godspeeds answer to this problem , he's had thicker shoe's made to fill up the 190mm drum , so fricking easy its scarey
There is no modification to fit them , fairly cheap to get , so you had better start buying all those cheap rear brembo's kits flying around that no one thinks will fit.
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24 November 2006, 12:23 PM
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I think you will find that Simon is carrying out a similar idea to Godspeed's , not the other way round
Have you seen this ?
Classic Impreza 2 Pot & Brembo Rear Fitting Kits with Handbrake Modification
Yes the bugeye 290mm discs have a 170mm handbrake shoe , so if your fitting the Subaru 2 pots and 290mm discs the handbrake doesn't need touching , you only need the thicker hanbrake shoes if your fitting the Gold STi Brembo calipers and 316mm discs , but the bracket kit is the same for both coversions.
I would then say that the STi Gold brembo's must fit onto a bugeye WRX then , with putting thicker shoes on for the handbrake.
Have you seen this ?
Classic Impreza 2 Pot & Brembo Rear Fitting Kits with Handbrake Modification
Yes the bugeye 290mm discs have a 170mm handbrake shoe , so if your fitting the Subaru 2 pots and 290mm discs the handbrake doesn't need touching , you only need the thicker hanbrake shoes if your fitting the Gold STi Brembo calipers and 316mm discs , but the bracket kit is the same for both coversions.
I would then say that the STi Gold brembo's must fit onto a bugeye WRX then , with putting thicker shoes on for the handbrake.
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24 November 2006, 04:25 PM
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Yes that's correct I'm taking the enlarged shoe idea and working with it to save making reducers to bring the inner 316 disc down to 170mm.... I'm also working to make the bracket DIY style to save a few ££ 
Still work in progress though got a while to go yet.
Gold touch up on order I'll keep you up to date on that one
I'm taking the enlarged shoe idea and working with it to save making reducers to bring the inner 316 disc down to 170mm.... I'm also working to make the bracket DIY style to save a few ££ Still work in progress though got a while to go yet.
Gold touch up on order I'll keep you up to date on that one
25 November 2006, 02:31 PM
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Here's my brackets so far, just about ready to dummy fit now, then just need a bit of a tidying up.
Hub side:
Caliper side:
Hub side:
Caliper side:
25 November 2006, 02:37 PM
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Dean that's a great job well done
We have not been able to start mine yet it's been a bit of a pain in work this week and not been able to steal the time
When your ready for the dry fit out drop me a call I'll bring the hub home from work and I'll dig the caliper and disc out for us to assemble your bracket onto. I've got everything crossed that we can make a start next week.
Touch up paint has arrived I've dropped the first coat on... near match as possible I think it's not bad at all
just adding a few light coats as not to over paint it. It's not heat resistant but since it's just touch up I'm not to worried... time will tell on it.
well done We have not been able to start mine yet it's been a bit of a pain in work this week and not been able to steal the time
When your ready for the dry fit out drop me a call I'll bring the hub home from work and I'll dig the caliper and disc out for us to assemble your bracket onto. I've got everything crossed that we can make a start next week.
Touch up paint has arrived I've dropped the first coat on... near match as possible I think it's not bad at all
just adding a few light coats as not to over paint it. It's not heat resistant but since it's just touch up I'm not to worried... time will tell on it.
25 November 2006, 03:06 PM
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Si it would be good if we could try a dry fit next weekend if you can bring the hub and caliper home with you, may need a few tweeks to get it to bolt up, which i can sort out in work before i finish on the 8th.
If it doesn't bolt up then i can check if the center of the caliper lines up with the center of the disk, if not work out how mush extra needs to be machined off.
I have made the difference between the 2 faces (between the red lines) 1mm for now, looks about 2mm in the pic but i can always take a bit more off.
If you have a rear caliper handy could you take a pic of the back of it for me and email it to me??
If it doesn't bolt up then i can check if the center of the caliper lines up with the center of the disk, if not work out how mush extra needs to be machined off.
I have made the difference between the 2 faces (between the red lines) 1mm for now, looks about 2mm in the pic but i can always take a bit more off.
If you have a rear caliper handy could you take a pic of the back of it for me and email it to me??
25 November 2006, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Dropped you a mail with a few pics Dean... hope they help if you need more detial just ask... yes I'll bring all along with me next weekend for sure.
I've sent you a mail back.
Good news on the Handbrake shoes, i've just won a set on ebay for £11 including P&P so we've now got a spare set to get re-lined.
25 November 2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kjdmk1
This is all coming together for the both of you nicely
26 November 2006, 04:35 PM
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Cheers Si, looking at the pic of the back of the calipers the bracket still needs a few modifications.
I've sent you a mail back.
Good news on the Handbrake shoes, i've just won a set on ebay for £11 including P&P so we've now got a spare set to get re-lined.
I've sent you a mail back.
Good news on the Handbrake shoes, i've just won a set on ebay for £11 including P&P so we've now got a spare set to get re-lined.
the bay comes in handy at times
27 November 2006, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Just replied to your mail as well Dean... sorry for the delay 
Looks like i've sort some Brembo's now just got to wait for them to turn up, but u can still borrow the bracket for a while, coz i've got to get some braided lines and some DOT 5.1 fluid to do at the same time and still got to get the handbrake shoes sorted.
27 November 2006, 08:14 PM
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That's great news on the Brembo's Dean you may beat me to it at this rate !!
Yes borrowing your bracket will save me a lot of work that is for sure... what we need is to assemble yours on this hub and that will give you the green light then I hope
Give me a call when your ready
Do you want me to send you my hose info ?
you may beat me to it at this rate !!Yes borrowing your bracket will save me a lot of work that is for sure... what we need is to assemble yours on this hub and that will give you the green light then I hope
Give me a call when your ready
Do you want me to send you my hose info ?
27 November 2006, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Give me a call when your ready
Do you want me to send you my hose info ?
If you could send me the info that would be great.
I'm not really in a massive rush to get them on, one of my mates dads may be able to re-line the shoes for free for me, but he on hols at the mo, so i'll wait to here off him first.