Cosworth in front again.............
30 October 2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Not anti scooby mate.. i own one remember.
I think its nice people that still have their feet on the ground can discuss what they dont like about their cars as much as what we do like about them.
I for one am a complete out and out petrolhead and enjoy all things big power and fast.. that includes cars that are not of the subaru marque.
I love my scoob, else i would sell it... i just want it to be more exciting
I think its nice people that still have their feet on the ground can discuss what they dont like about their cars as much as what we do like about them.
I for one am a complete out and out petrolhead and enjoy all things big power and fast.. that includes cars that are not of the subaru marque.
I love my scoob, else i would sell it... i just want it to be more exciting
im talking about the comments underneath the video on youtube!
30 October 2006, 10:11 PM
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Ok guys, I think its time I set the record straight...
Its my video, I shot it so I am obviously driving the camera car.
The cossie is a guy called matt who is a member of surrey scoobies, the day in question was one of our surrey meets which starts with a very nice bit of dual carriageway.
I decided to let matt go first followed by the pack of scoobies for the ultimate "hunted" effect, I gave it some in 1st, 2nd and then lifted off to get some space for filming.
Matt's cossie was almost standard and it took very little for the scoobies to catch him, the scoobies were held back and only allowed to go on my signal.
The cossie has now undergone a bit of work but back then he wanted to keep it original.
I never expected this video to get broadcast the way it has as it was only ever posted in our forums after that meet over a year ago.
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Its my video, I shot it so I am obviously driving the camera car.
The cossie is a guy called matt who is a member of surrey scoobies, the day in question was one of our surrey meets which starts with a very nice bit of dual carriageway.
I decided to let matt go first followed by the pack of scoobies for the ultimate "hunted" effect, I gave it some in 1st, 2nd and then lifted off to get some space for filming.
Matt's cossie was almost standard and it took very little for the scoobies to catch him, the scoobies were held back and only allowed to go on my signal.
The cossie has now undergone a bit of work but back then he wanted to keep it original.
I never expected this video to get broadcast the way it has as it was only ever posted in our forums after that meet over a year ago.
Andy
30 October 2006, 10:25 PM
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The project thread that Matt posted up on Surrey Scoobies has not been updated but he was going for 350 bhp plus with a modded gearbox etc.
The car is a minter and went well in std form, compared to my car?? in all honesty I dont know as I was filming and didnt want my ego to spoil what has turned out to be a very good video, i have the full lenght version here on my pc of the drive to the pub but will not post it.
Rgds
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The car is a minter and went well in std form, compared to my car?? in all honesty I dont know as I was filming and didnt want my ego to spoil what has turned out to be a very good video, i have the full lenght version here on my pc of the drive to the pub but will not post it.
Rgds
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30 October 2006, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
I have to say I still love the look of the escort cosworth. If it wasn't for the fact that I would probably blow the crappy gearbox to a million pieces I might own one at some point.
Not to mention they are a complete and utter **** to work on.
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30 October 2006, 10:28 PM
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30 October 2006, 10:42 PM
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Heres a print out of kevin sharps 1/4 mile times in he`s escort cossie from a acouple of years ago it may even be quicker now, and people say there not quick cars
30 October 2006, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by andypugh2000
Hi Ben, wasn't sure if it was you or not, how come you not on SS no more mate??
With moving out the area and other things etc... been very busy and haven't been to hardly any meets this year. Hope everythings going well - was good fun being involved. I'll have to pop back down and catch up for a beer at some point.
30 October 2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben v7
Hello mate - thought it was one of your clips.
With moving out the area and other things etc... been very busy and haven't been to hardly any meets this year. Hope everythings going well - was good fun being involved. I'll have to pop back down and catch up for a beer at some point.
With moving out the area and other things etc... been very busy and haven't been to hardly any meets this year. Hope everythings going well - was good fun being involved. I'll have to pop back down and catch up for a beer at some point.
30 October 2006, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Not to mention they are a complete and utter **** to work on.
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I never had any major problems.
But then I never had any problems with gearboxes either so I have no idea what thats all about
Graham Goode once told me that I should have my own rebuilt and shot peened if I went for their 420bhp conv. but I never had it done unfortunately
My 430bhp saff ran a standard T5 box but then they were known for being very strong anyhow.
30 October 2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
In escorts yes..
Sierra's wern't too bad, you could climb in and sit next to it. :lol
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Sierra's wern't too bad, you could climb in and sit next to it. :lol
Andy
How much easier do you want it..
Inline 4 cyl, 2ltr turbo, twin cam, no gay maf sensor to break on all but the last T28 small turbo varients.
Man the turbo is on one side, the intake on the other.. Its all laid out infront of you. Whats hard about that??
The only car i can think of to work on thats easier is the 950cc fiesta i drive to and from work everyday
31 October 2006, 01:21 AM
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Highly modified one I had to work on once, gearbox removal amongst other things, most of the bolts were siezed,or knackered the threads on the way out. perhaps it was just the fact underneath wasn't well looked after and in the process of doing the job it wound me up enough that I never want to see another one. 
Couldn't even get to the freakin oil filter IIRC.
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Couldn't even get to the freakin oil filter IIRC.
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31 October 2006, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Highly modified one I had to work on once, gearbox removal amongst other things, most of the bolts were siezed,or knackered the threads on the way out. perhaps it was just the fact underneath wasn't well looked after and in the process of doing the job it wound me up enough that I never want to see another one.
Couldn't even get to the freakin oil filter IIRC.
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Couldn't even get to the freakin oil filter IIRC.
Andy
I assure you theyre normally a piece of **** to work on. Another thing that makes me laugh is how many people moan @ how unreliable thay are.. This is simply not the case.. Like any engine, build it properly and it will be bulletproof if properly setup and maintained.
I kicked the granny out of my last one for over 18months,... Never ever once did it let me down. I also knew plenty of people that were running well over 400, some 450bhp for years at a time and they were faultless.
One rather famous 3 door cossie in the tuning circle has been running over 550bhp for the last 7 years without a rebuild..
31 October 2006, 08:11 AM
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Trouble is 99% of scooby drivers have never been in a quick cossie so have the blinkers on 
Hate to say your bro is right.. cossie is KING mate
Hate to say your bro is right.. cossie is KING mate
TOTB results would seem to differ.. Did they all just give up when they couldn't win anymore, like a mass 'toys out the pram' moment Lets see what next year has to offer, i'm sure cossie's will dominate with sub 10sec 1/4 miles and top the leaderboard over the handling circuit
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31 October 2006, 01:08 PM
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I dont know what it is about car owners clubs and stuff they are constantly slating other motors, it must be a tribal thing I spose?
do you reckon there is a Lambo club forum where they slag off the Aston Martin club for being Fat boys ?
Ive had Cossies and RS Turbos and GTI's,GTE's and all that stuff and now Im on the scoob and I have enjoyed them all.............except the Astra GTE that was shocking !!!!!
Im off to find an EVO owner to tell him his cars poo
do you reckon there is a Lambo club forum where they slag off the Aston Martin club for being Fat boys ?
Ive had Cossies and RS Turbos and GTI's,GTE's and all that stuff and now Im on the scoob and I have enjoyed them all.............except the Astra GTE that was shocking !!!!!
Im off to find an EVO owner to tell him his cars poo
31 October 2006, 03:04 PM
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Have owned three scoobys but still love the cossies particularly the escort.When I passed my test a cossie was the car you dreamed of owning even if you could afford the insurance.Its dated looking now and uses old technology but its an RS and will always be special.
31 October 2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bmac800
Have owned three scoobys but still love the cossies particularly the escort.When I passed my test a cossie was the car you dreamed of owning even if you could afford the insurance.Its dated looking now and uses old technology but its an RS and will always be special.
31 October 2006, 04:47 PM
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This is all fairly daft really. You can modify any car to beat any other car. Put a rocket in a Suzuki Jeep and it'll wipe the floor with a 1000hp Cossie.
I think the arguement should be which is the better car, and in that regard the Scooby (new age anyway) wins hands down.
I think the arguement should be which is the better car, and in that regard the Scooby (new age anyway) wins hands down.
31 October 2006, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
TOTB results would seem to differ.. Did they all just give up when they couldn't win anymore, like a mass 'toys out the pram' moment Lets see what next year has to offer, i'm sure cossie's will dominate with sub 10sec 1/4 miles and top the leaderboard over the handling circuit
Dave
Unfortunately TOTB has become more of a "How fast can you afford to pay your tuner to go" event. They haven't given up. Just can't afford to compete with tuner backed cars (on slicks and race fuel) when they only turn up on Optimax/V-Power and road tyres as it's an event meant to be for road cars.
31 October 2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
evo ****s on them all. And if you have the money those german numbers cannot be beaten, unless its a stripped out british number.
Example: My Brother in law has a 06 M3 cabrio and a SL600 V12 cabrio. M3: 343 bhp against my 320ish bhp, 0-60 he looses, up too 100 hes still behind, 130 he gets along side 140 hes 1 meter in front, 150 his car stops accelerating mine does´nt.
600 V12 around 400bhp?, ok its very heavy 2.5 tonnes and an Auto, 0-60 hes lost, after 80 hes quicker than me and carries on pulling away up to 150 (would hope so to with a 6.0 V12) and then its the same as the BMW.
He wont even bother trying on tight B-Roads
10 mins away from where i live theres a tuner with a Digitec Audi rs6 (old model in that lovley light Blue) pushing around 500 bhp, same story really, a big fat heavy German heap. but over 100 hes gone.
Before any speed limit questions appear, its all done on German Autobahns!. Atleast Germany is good for somthing.
Too the Cossies, dont see them over here, but my childhood dream was always an RS500. I´d love one of those today.
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01 November 2006, 08:56 AM
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Please don't bring TOTB into it. How can all the private entered Cossies compete against tuner backed Skylines and Evos for example?
Unfortunately TOTB has become more of a "How fast can you afford to pay your tuner to go" event. They haven't given up. Just can't afford to compete with tuner backed cars (on slicks and race fuel) when they only turn up on Optimax/V-Power and road tyres as it's an event meant to be for road cars.
Unfortunately TOTB has become more of a "How fast can you afford to pay your tuner to go" event. They haven't given up. Just can't afford to compete with tuner backed cars (on slicks and race fuel) when they only turn up on Optimax/V-Power and road tyres as it's an event meant to be for road cars.
Supra's and vipers are never going to win outright, but still at least put the effort in to try.
Unfortunately, and it is a great shame the cosworth isn't up there any more. It seems to me, rather than try to innovate using what they have at there disposal, they stuck to tried and tested early 90's ideas. Then gave up when they stopped being the fastest thing on 4 wheels.
Don't get me wrong, I do love cosworths. Imprezas are just better.
Dave
01 November 2006, 12:18 PM
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Re the vid clip, I know that stretch of road. Mmmm A246 Newlands Corner / Clandon traffic lights heading towards Scooby mecca that is Bell and Colville 