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Old 01 November 2006, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
So Sherlock, have you just 'educated' the SN ******* on how to 'get off' with TWOC.......


Please tell me it isn't so............
Not really - it’s a well known defence.

Besides they are ways around it in certain circumstances.
Old 01 November 2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Sounds like the jury aren't even given a chance to conclude that the defendant is making up a pile of **** - even though evidence is not definitive??
Yep. It has to proven beyond reasonable doubt, so the judge may rule that the jury find him not guilty.
Old 01 November 2006, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Not really
"Not really....." so that's a big fat Yes then.....

it’s a well known defence.
It is now! after being posted by the resident SN police representative!

Besides they are ways around it in certain circumstances.
"Certain circumstances" are not ALL circumstances.... *sighs* best we remember not to educate the ******* on anymore/further ways to avoid prosecution/punishment for their crimes though.....
Old 01 November 2006, 03:58 PM
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Honest, they are ways around it and it is a well known line that all solicitors will know.

Besides, most ******* shoot themselves in the foot before they speak to the solicitor.
Old 01 November 2006, 04:04 PM
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Look Felix.... we can't go on agreeing about stuff... people will start to talk! start posting stuff I can disagree with before it's too late
Old 01 November 2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AndiThompson
He's a tosser who was no problems getting guilty people off serious charges if they pay him enough. I won't be surprised if he's guilty.
That sums up all criminal lawyers though doesn't it ?
Old 01 November 2006, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
As regards Freeman, he can't continue to represent a client if they admit their guilt to him and, as stated, it seems as though the police think he may have known they were guilty and suggested various scenarios/excuses that might get them off.
Thats not quite right is it? After all in a number of cases haven't his clients admitted to the offence but got off on technicalities or good reasons why they did what they did.

e.g. Fergeson and Beckham admitted speeding but in the case of Ferguson argued he had the squits, and in Beckham that he was being chased by photoographers
Old 01 November 2006, 10:27 PM
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In theory, the solicitor can not allow his client to lie - in these cases he can only direct them to go 'No reply'
Old 01 November 2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
You can only handle if you know the goods were stolen in the first place.
Know or BELIEVE it to be stolen.

Therefore, if the said £3000 car was actually valued excessively more you would still have enough to charge with Handling Stolen Goods

(unless the CPS decided otherwise )
Old 01 November 2006, 11:39 PM
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Freeman is good, but he ain't that good

Caprice banned for drink driving - UK News Headlines
Old 01 November 2006, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Adidas
Know or BELIEVE it to be stolen.
It’s the same thing in this case – he either knew/believed it was stolen, or he didn’t


Originally Posted by Adidas
Therefore, if the said £3000 car was actually valued excessively more you would still have enough to charge with Handling Stolen Goods
True, so the thief just states that he had the correct amount of money in his back pocket. Most solicitors carry a copy of the local news paper for a reason you know.
Old 01 November 2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.

True, so the thief just states that he had the correct amount of money in his back pocket. Most solicitors carry a copy of the local news paper for a reason you know.
Most Solicitors (or more likely Legal Rep) will submit a prepared statement and let you do all the leg work
Old 02 November 2006, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Adidas
Most Solicitors (or more likely Legal Rep) will submit a prepared statement and let you do all the leg work
Its not America - he will still be interviewed
Old 02 November 2006, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Its not America - he will still be interviewed
I understand that, but he'll still read a prepared statement during the interview, then go 'no comment' thereon after.

Causing you to do the hard work
Old 02 November 2006, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Adidas
Freeman is good, but he ain't that good

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When you think, I don't know what his argument was. Part of the custody procedure is to ask her 'Are you taking any form of medication' which she must have answered 'No'
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Originally Posted by Felix.
When you think, I don't know what his argument was. Part of the custody procedure is to ask her 'Are you taking any form of medication' which she must have answered 'No'
IIRC, she produced aa bottle that the tablets for her 'condition' had come in.

The only problem was, they were dispensed 9 months after she got nicked
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So he's not to face any charges
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