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Old 07 November 2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
No offence intended in any case. If I was right, then what you do on your "on" days is pretty worthwhile.
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Old 07 November 2006, 05:38 PM
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cool !

Please folks , no comments like "I can feel the lurve on this thread".
Old 07 November 2006, 09:00 PM
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dreamer_girl, Differences between EU and UK car are as previously mentioned.

1. No alarm ( can get the original cat1 sigma fitted for £300)
2. No tracker (again £400 fitted with first years subscription)
3. No mats
4. No extra underbody protection for uk roads (can easily get this done relatively cheap)

As far as warranty is concerned it is the same as the uk one as long as you stick to the supplying countries service intervals. Always check these with your broker. The first year is manufacturers (ie Subaru Japan) and next two years are by the supplying dealer which is the same deal as here in the uk.
The only issue you may get re the warranty is the fact that the uk dealer will have to seek authorisation from the supplying dealer before he can carry out repairs and in some cases this has taken up to six weeks. I have heard lots of people on here say they have had no problems at all.

If you need to know anything else about the buying process then PM me and I am more than willing to offer advice.

Sorry for hijacking the original thread.

Cheers, Chris.
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Hi, back in July I was facing the same decision (but with used cars). I tests drove a standard WRX, WRX PPP and STI Type UK.

I opted for, and purchased, the STI Type UK. The reasons were, although it has the same bhp as the WRX PPP it just felt faster (sounds odd i know) and I felt it drove better. Also, I have to say that i prefer the STI seats aswell and i also found people telling me that its a better model for upgrades! (have not done any yet though)

My other thing was that the whole STI just seems to look the part - even though its far easier to get spotted testing your car out by your local friendly police person!

Dont know if it helps, but I am seriously happy with my STI - definately money well spent.
Old 07 November 2006, 10:34 PM
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Thanks guys, it has all really helped

Off to test the WRX PPP tomorrow, back to back with the STi PPP again
Old 07 November 2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWeb
dreamer_girl, Differences between EU and UK car are as previously mentioned.

1. No alarm ( can get the original cat1 sigma fitted for £300)
2. No tracker (again £400 fitted with first years subscription)
3. No mats
4. No extra underbody protection for uk roads (can easily get this done relatively cheap)

As far as warranty is concerned it is the same as the uk one as long as you stick to the supplying countries service intervals. Always check these with your broker. The first year is manufacturers (ie Subaru Japan) and next two years are by the supplying dealer which is the same deal as here in the uk.
The only issue you may get re the warranty is the fact that the uk dealer will have to seek authorisation from the supplying dealer before he can carry out repairs and in some cases this has taken up to six weeks. I have heard lots of people on here say they have had no problems at all.

If you need to know anything else about the buying process then PM me and I am more than willing to offer advice.

Sorry for hijacking the original thread.

Cheers, Chris.
Underbody protection should be identical on an EU and UK car - certainly is on my 02WRX which I got from Holland. It's the Jap and non EU Euro imports that don't have it. Alarm/tracker etc I agree with you.

Also, my understanding is that in more recent years, the "additional" 2 years of warranty is now pan-European (at least within the EU) and so warranty repairs should be just as easy to get done.

Bigger issue which is a bit more relevant to the thread is that there have been reports that PPPs need to be fitted in country of origin to maintain warranty; if you have to take the car back to e.g. Holland to get the PPP fitted it's a bit of a pain! (Can't comment on this as I modded my mine with aftermarket parts to give significantly more poke than the WRX PPP)
Old 08 November 2006, 09:13 AM
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whil;e you are doing back to back tests you should drive a jdm as well to get a truly balanced view
Old 08 November 2006, 10:15 AM
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Yes, also drive a JDM, the true, full STi experience.
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Originally Posted by GREGGYG
Yes, also drive a JDM, the true, full STi experience.
What are the differences between the JDM and UK Sti's ?
Old 08 November 2006, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
What are the differences between the JDM and UK Sti's ?
Quite a few mate, but biggest being the twin scroll turbo, higher rev range, stronger internals, dials, rear washer, HID lights.

But i'm sure Pippyrips will tell you more.

If i had the choice again, i would get a JDM. My order would be:

JDM
EU
Type UK
Old 08 November 2006, 01:02 PM
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So "twin scroll" doesn't mean two separate turbos ? And it results in better low range response ? What's the rev range ? Is Pippyrips a boy or girl ?
Old 08 November 2006, 03:03 PM
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love my 2.5 sti but the ride is very hard and gets a bit tiresome when you want to potter around..gives the wife nipple rash
Old 08 November 2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
So "twin scroll" doesn't mean two separate turbos ? And it results in better low range response ? What's the rev range ? Is Pippyrips a boy or girl ?
It does spool up quicker with better low response. Do a quick search and you'll see a few posts on it.
Old 08 November 2006, 07:35 PM
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Well I did it !

After testing a plain WRX (the PPP one didn't materialise) and not liking it, I went to another dealer and tested a standard STi.

For what I want it for, I don't need the PPP (having now experienced a standard STi) and tbh I didn't like the exhaust tone at 30mph (fine above 50!), so I put a deposit down !!!

It's about 6 months old, 3k miles on it, Black, and they're part-ex'ing the S2000.

Can't wait !

Somehow I need to get my private plates xferred onto the Caterham before Saturday though, so I can give them the S2000! How likely is that
Old 08 November 2006, 08:03 PM
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Good choice , black is definately they way to go:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...b/DSC00125.jpg

Just change the back box and get the burble back!
Old 08 November 2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamer_girl
Well I did it !

After testing a plain WRX (the PPP one didn't materialise) and not liking it, I went to another dealer and tested a standard STi.

For what I want it for, I don't need the PPP (having now experienced a standard STi) and tbh I didn't like the exhaust tone at 30mph (fine above 50!), so I put a deposit down !!!

It's about 6 months old, 3k miles on it, Black, and they're part-ex'ing the S2000.

Can't wait !

Somehow I need to get my private plates xferred onto the Caterham before Saturday though, so I can give them the S2000! How likely is that
Well done Jo ..... I would have had an STi if I hadn't have needed a hatchback when I got mine. Shame they didn't come up with a PPP to test though as it is considerably better than the standard car but I feel likely to be nowhere near as involving as an STi.

Compared to my S2000 the WRX PPP is at least as quick but very soft - something I am sure the Sti won't be Enjoy !
Old 08 November 2006, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
So "twin scroll" doesn't mean two separate turbos ? And it results in better low range response ? What's the rev range ? Is Pippyrips a boy or girl ?
a bloke last time i looked

Gaz has pretty much summed up the differences, it has been debated too many times before to go again but the search function will reveal all.

In all the only downside (to some) with the newage jdms are that you loose the scooby 'burble' sound due to the equal length headers. I do miss the burble though mine on full chat sounds like a 1000cc bike which is equally pleasing Other than that JDMs are are equal or better in every department. Spec-c's even more so
Old 08 November 2006, 10:07 PM
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4-6 weeks to either transfer a number plate to another vehicle, or to put it on retention, and that's even if you go in person to your DVLA local office! Plus they have to send you the forms, you cannot download them from the DVLA website!
Old 08 November 2006, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pippyrips
a bloke last time i looked

Gaz has pretty much summed up the differences, it has been debated too many times before to go again but the search function will reveal all.

In all the only downside (to some) with the newage jdms are that you loose the scooby 'burble' sound due to the equal length headers. I do miss the burble though mine on full chat sounds like a 1000cc bike which is equally pleasing Other than that JDMs are are equal or better in every department. Spec-c's even more so
Cheers Pip.

Never see many Newage JDM's advertised though ?! Can the headers not simply be changed ?
Old 08 November 2006, 11:43 PM
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Why not go for the PPP agaisnt the STI, almost same performance without the boy racer come and arrest me looks???
Old 09 November 2006, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by theboy
Why not go for the PPP agaisnt the STI, almost same performance without the boy racer come and arrest me looks???
Because having driven the WRX (admittedly without the PPP) I found it underpowered (yes the PPP would fix this), a bit wallowy, and I didn't like the gearing.. It didn't feel special enough to me (sorry!), and although I'm not ahuge fan of the big rear spoiler on the STi, I think I'd always regret not getting it.

Done deal now, picking her up Saturday hopefully
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Originally Posted by Luckyscoob
Likewise, the wrx was def easier to drive normally, it didn't suffer with tramlining on dodgy surfaces which is the thing I like least about the STi, but sometimes the WRX felt a bit too normal, which the STi certainly doesn't!.
tramlining is caused by the reo70s that they put on from standard my06sti is 350bhp and with reo40s on it its just brilliant doing cadwell on saturday 11th and looking forward to driveing it hard
Old 09 November 2006, 07:45 PM
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My RX8 had RE040's on it from new and they were absolutley lethal in the wet. I changed them to RE050's and they were miles better. Just as good in the dry, much better in the wet and a lot quieter on the road with far less tramlining.
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Originally Posted by Luckyscoob
Good choice , black is definately they way to go:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...b/DSC00125.jpg

Just change the back box and get the burble back!
Can second that - black is the way forward and a different bbox improves its voice!
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Originally Posted by dreamer_girl
Well I did it !

After testing a plain WRX (the PPP one didn't materialise) and not liking it, I went to another dealer and tested a standard STi.

For what I want it for, I don't need the PPP (having now experienced a standard STi) and tbh I didn't like the exhaust tone at 30mph (fine above 50!), so I put a deposit down !!!

It's about 6 months old, 3k miles on it, Black, and they're part-ex'ing the S2000.

Can't wait !

Somehow I need to get my private plates xferred onto the Caterham before Saturday though, so I can give them the S2000! How likely is that
Good choice - I had the same experience when buying mine. What price was the Sti up for?
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I found the PPP made a lovely growly noise, but I hated the drone at 30-40mph. I assume that changing the back box would do this.

Also, I am trying (not successfully!) to get into modifying it; I have a Caterham that takes up all my modifying energy. Although knowing me it won't be long til I want to play!!!!
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Cheers Pip.

Never see many Newage JDM's advertised though ?! Can the headers not simply be changed ?
andy,

They come on here quite a lot, and for good prices too. As for the headers its not that simple. You would need a new single-scroll turbo and new sump i believe. You would also lose power as the headers add around 15+20bhp + more torque i think
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Nice one! A new black STi owner. The Fastest colour too.

Good choice.

No need to say "have a good w/end", it's pretty much guaranteed...
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Originally Posted by pippyrips
andy,

They come on here quite a lot, and for good prices too. As for the headers its not that simple. You would need a new single-scroll turbo and new sump i believe. You would also lose power as the headers add around 15+20bhp + more torque i think
Cheers Pippy. Do they have the same fuel issues as old ,ahem,..., , classic,
scoob imports ? Will VPower be fine in them or is an Octane booster still required ?
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Cheers Pippy. Do they have the same fuel issues as old ,ahem,..., , classic,
scoob imports ? Will VPower be fine in them or is an Octane booster still required ?
I guess so as japan still uses the same ron fuel. I think you should still use boosterto be safe?

Mine has been remapped for uk fuel so is fine - also pushes out about 350bhp which is nice


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