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06 November 2006, 12:44 PM
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No chance, did you see the video from one of the US conveys getting set upon and just killing drivers left right and centre - very very scary. No money is worth dying for, at least if you are still alive you can earn more.
06 November 2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WHEELSHOP0_0
My brother in law is a long distance lorry driver, driving dangerous loads.
He has the chance to go to Iraq to drive these dangerous loads, fuel, chemicals etc. this chance involves him going for months of training and licences which he has now passed,and then going to Texas for specialised "anti-hi-jacking" training.
Then he would go to Iraq for around 16 weeks at a time, (thats what his contract is for).
He is expecting around £10,000 per week in payment for this.
He is hoping to do a few of these contracts and then start training to be a commercial pilot with his savings.
My wife and his wife are terrified that this is just too dangerous, what do you think, would £10k per week justify this risk as it will tranform their lives whatever happens.
He has the chance to go to Iraq to drive these dangerous loads, fuel, chemicals etc. this chance involves him going for months of training and licences which he has now passed,and then going to Texas for specialised "anti-hi-jacking" training.
Then he would go to Iraq for around 16 weeks at a time, (thats what his contract is for).
He is expecting around £10,000 per week in payment for this.
He is hoping to do a few of these contracts and then start training to be a commercial pilot with his savings.
My wife and his wife are terrified that this is just too dangerous, what do you think, would £10k per week justify this risk as it will tranform their lives whatever happens.
I drive around in ROmford every night for free, so 10k a week to drive in Iraq, where do i sign up
06 November 2006, 01:46 PM
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When you consider what an army private driving a DROPS laden with 80 Tonnes of munitions to the front line is getting, £10K per week is very good money, especially as most of that will spent getting to and from Iraq and very little of it actually in the danger zone. Damn, almost tempted myself, think my Hazmat is still valid
06 November 2006, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
No way. Did you see the video of a convoy under attack? 
YouTube - KBR Convoy Ambushed in Iraq
or this:
YouTube - Ambushed in Iraq
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06 November 2006, 03:26 PM
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pick up an AK, a vest or 3, helmet and some grenades (available at your local corner shop in Iraq)
10k a week is a lot of money- but christ that first video is scary.
10k a week is a lot of money- but christ that first video is scary.
06 November 2006, 03:33 PM
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Body armour wont keep a 7.62x39 round out! You need an added (ceramic ideally) plate to do that and it only covers your middle. If youre wounded at all youre f*cked.....
06 November 2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Goochie
For those who diddnt see it:
YouTube - KBR Convoy Ambushed in Iraq
or this:
YouTube - Ambushed in Iraq
YouTube - KBR Convoy Ambushed in Iraq
or this:
YouTube - Ambushed in Iraq
Sod that!
06 November 2006, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Freak
pick up an AK, a vest or 3, helmet and some grenades (available at your local corner shop in Iraq)
10k a week is a lot of money- but christ that first video is scary.
10k a week is a lot of money- but christ that first video is scary.
Helmet, body armour (as much as you can afford) and a couple of Glocks (with lots of ammo already loaded into spare clips) emergency med pack and an emergency radio
06 November 2006, 03:50 PM
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Don't do it. I have been out a few times, and you **** your pants with body armour, ceramic, helmet, and an automatic rifle with a genade launcher. I also wouldn't go anywhere where I had to rely on Yanks for protection. What a bunch of *****.
06 November 2006, 04:26 PM
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It would appear that the guy in the first video recieved as much help from the Lord Jesus as he got from the gun truck.
I bet he was chuffed with his £10k per week..............
I bet he was chuffed with his £10k per week..............
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06 November 2006, 06:52 PM
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Driving for big bucks in Iraq.
i'M SUICIDAL, BUT DRIVE A SCOOBY. I WUDN'T MUCH CARE IF I WAS KILLED. TRIED IT MYSELF A COUPLE OF TIMES. OVIOUSLY A FAILURE!
PROB ABIT MORE PAINFUL MIND!! 10k AWEEK WOULD BE SUMTHING TO TAKE MY MIND OFF IT I SUPPOSE!!!
PROB ABIT MORE PAINFUL MIND!! 10k AWEEK WOULD BE SUMTHING TO TAKE MY MIND OFF IT I SUPPOSE!!!
06 November 2006, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WHEELSHOP0_0
My brother in law is a long distance lorry driver, driving dangerous loads.
He has the chance to go to Iraq to drive these dangerous loads, fuel, chemicals etc. this chance involves him going for months of training and licences which he has now passed,and then going to Texas for specialised "anti-hi-jacking" training.
Then he would go to Iraq for around 16 weeks at a time, (thats what his contract is for).
He is expecting around £10,000 per week in payment for this.
He is hoping to do a few of these contracts and then start training to be a commercial pilot with his savings.
My wife and his wife are terrified that this is just too dangerous, what do you think, would £10k per week justify this risk as it will tranform their lives whatever happens.
He has the chance to go to Iraq to drive these dangerous loads, fuel, chemicals etc. this chance involves him going for months of training and licences which he has now passed,and then going to Texas for specialised "anti-hi-jacking" training.
Then he would go to Iraq for around 16 weeks at a time, (thats what his contract is for).
He is expecting around £10,000 per week in payment for this.
He is hoping to do a few of these contracts and then start training to be a commercial pilot with his savings.
My wife and his wife are terrified that this is just too dangerous, what do you think, would £10k per week justify this risk as it will tranform their lives whatever happens.
Similarly, if he went and got killed and you didn't talk him out of it, could you live with your consience ?
I definately wouldn't risk my *** out there, no matter how much £ ws involved...
All IMHO of course
06 November 2006, 09:47 PM
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"The generic definition of a mercenary is a soldier who fights or engages in warfare primarily for private gain, usually with little regard for ideological, national, or political considerations." (from Wikipedia)
For ten grand a week you could maybe turn blind eye to a lot of things, but you'd be haunted for life.
Richard.
For ten grand a week you could maybe turn blind eye to a lot of things, but you'd be haunted for life.
Richard.
07 November 2006, 04:23 PM
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I'd do it. Just give me an AK 47 and plenty of rounds and the keys and are be away! 
Just shoot any ******* who's carrying a gun and looks like a ****! 
. Bout time those ******* had some of there own medicine!
Just shoot any ******* who's carrying a gun and looks like a ****! . Bout time those ******* had some of there own medicine!
07 November 2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
I'd do it. Just give me an AK 47 and plenty of rounds and the keys and are be away! Just shoot any ******* who's carrying a gun and looks like a ****! . Bout time those ******* had some of there own medicine!
Just shoot any ******* who's carrying a gun and looks like a ****! . Bout time those ******* had some of there own medicine!
07 November 2006, 04:45 PM
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Has he got a family?
Has he come to termswith his own death in his mind?
If he is happy with the above...
Its a gamble. Do a few tours and you can get big bucks.
The big questions he needs to answer are.
What level of protection does he get?
Who is providing this protection - what is their track record?
Where will he be working - is it a known hot spot or a quiter area?
Also can he back out mid tour?
Steve
Has he come to termswith his own death in his mind?
If he is happy with the above...
Its a gamble. Do a few tours and you can get big bucks.
The big questions he needs to answer are.
What level of protection does he get?
Who is providing this protection - what is their track record?
Where will he be working - is it a known hot spot or a quiter area?
Also can he back out mid tour?
Steve
07 November 2006, 04:56 PM
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This is what the FCO says about travelling to Iraq.
Bottom line:
"We advise against all but essential travel to the rest of Iraq."
I don't think that popping over there to make a quick buck would be considered essential travel.
As mentioned by others, don't forget about Ken "fooking moron" Bigley. He was offered protection but declined it, was told repeatedly to leave, but did not. Was a greedy fool who paid the ulitmate price with his life. This should be lesson enough to your friend.
Bottom line:
"We advise against all but essential travel to the rest of Iraq."
I don't think that popping over there to make a quick buck would be considered essential travel.
As mentioned by others, don't forget about Ken "fooking moron" Bigley. He was offered protection but declined it, was told repeatedly to leave, but did not. Was a greedy fool who paid the ulitmate price with his life. This should be lesson enough to your friend.
07 November 2006, 05:13 PM
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In that KBR Vid - Thats a fairly nasty choke point they are being lead through.
If he can find out also what type of routes he is taking. Are they full of these type of choke points? If so -then stay clear. It may be that the guys in the video had no choice?
If he can find out also what type of routes he is taking. Are they full of these type of choke points? If so -then stay clear. It may be that the guys in the video had no choice?
07 November 2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
In that KBR Vid - Thats a fairly nasty choke point they are being lead through.
If he can find out also what type of routes he is taking. Are they full of these type of choke points? If so -then stay clear. It may be that the guys in the video had no choice?
If he can find out also what type of routes he is taking. Are they full of these type of choke points? If so -then stay clear. It may be that the guys in the video had no choice?
They blew up one of the trucks towards the front, which then caused the convoy to stop.
The truck which it is being filmed from was then hit by an RPG and immobilised
here it is: YouTube - Hell on earth