MY06 Sti PPP - 2 months on..
#31
Lifting the handbrake until the handbrake light comes on automatically opens the diff on DCCD and DCCD-A - hence no banging /clunking noises on low speed tight manouevring - all to do with being able to handbrake it for rally uses - if all 4 wheels are locked then pulling the handbrake on would lock all 4 wheels rather than just the back which leads on to the following...
If the diff is fully open i.e green at the back, then you should not go straight at roundabouts as the diff if fully open - you'll be much more rear biased a la escort Mk 2. All the way forward ie red, means locked up and then you will go straight on at corners . Opposite to what the poster Greenwood said he was told above - so a bit scary if thats what was explained by Subaru!!
As for an idiots guide to the DCCD - https://www.scoobynet.com/drivetrain...anslation.html John Felstead's Users guide to the DCCD - although it was for the DCCD rather than DCCD-A its still the clearest explanation.
If the diff is fully open i.e green at the back, then you should not go straight at roundabouts as the diff if fully open - you'll be much more rear biased a la escort Mk 2. All the way forward ie red, means locked up and then you will go straight on at corners . Opposite to what the poster Greenwood said he was told above - so a bit scary if thats what was explained by Subaru!!
As for an idiots guide to the DCCD - https://www.scoobynet.com/drivetrain...anslation.html John Felstead's Users guide to the DCCD - although it was for the DCCD rather than DCCD-A its still the clearest explanation.
Last edited by Fat Boy; 14 November 2006 at 04:36 PM.
#34
Originally Posted by Fat Boy
Yes, it is DCCD-A on your car, but, no, that's not the reason...probably inertia in the whole 4WD drivetrain compared to 2WD cars that may be to blame - practice makes perfect.
#35
Thanks all for contributions to this thread .....
I now count three people with identical rattle from front driver top vent (which apoears when warm). I therefore hope we have a fix that will work for all in due course..
MArk
I now count three people with identical rattle from front driver top vent (which apoears when warm). I therefore hope we have a fix that will work for all in due course..
MArk
#36
I do need to practise more! Only done about 70 miles in the car so far
I'm used to being fairly sensitive on the right foot (I have a Caterham and part-ex'd the S2000 for the Scoob) so I'm not sure how to adjust my driving at the moment!
I'm used to being fairly sensitive on the right foot (I have a Caterham and part-ex'd the S2000 for the Scoob) so I'm not sure how to adjust my driving at the moment!
#38
Originally Posted by Luckyscoob
I'm finding the same with DCCD. Switch it back all the way to green and it loses that juddering. Tyres are a bloody nightmare and i'm assured that when they are changed for something else all tramlining dissapears. Apart from that, lovin it
tyres are not the culprit - once you have thr gith geometry the grip that the bridgestones offer is simply awe-inspiring
#39
I have done 15000 miles in my 06 STi and can confirm:
1 rattles will get worse - cure is to get a slightly louder exhaust so you cant hear them
2 DCCD knocking goes away or you get used to it and actually enjoying spinning the wheels at 2 mph
3 the engine gets better with age once loosened up
4 geometry settings will get rid of the tramlining - i took mine to TSL after 3 days
5 correct geometry makes the tyres come alive and work properly - just changed mine after 15000 miles including 4 track days and 13 laps of the ring and there is still a bit of life left in them (stayed with RE070's though) - and i dont hang around on track
6 the low down torque of the engine means that you dont need to drive it or indeed wont benefit from revving beyond 6000 rpm ish
7 people that say they dont like the 06 version cos it is ugly are jealous
8 DCCD - i leave mine in Auto most of the time unless ultra dry
Hope that helps.
1 rattles will get worse - cure is to get a slightly louder exhaust so you cant hear them
2 DCCD knocking goes away or you get used to it and actually enjoying spinning the wheels at 2 mph
3 the engine gets better with age once loosened up
4 geometry settings will get rid of the tramlining - i took mine to TSL after 3 days
5 correct geometry makes the tyres come alive and work properly - just changed mine after 15000 miles including 4 track days and 13 laps of the ring and there is still a bit of life left in them (stayed with RE070's though) - and i dont hang around on track
6 the low down torque of the engine means that you dont need to drive it or indeed wont benefit from revving beyond 6000 rpm ish
7 people that say they dont like the 06 version cos it is ugly are jealous
8 DCCD - i leave mine in Auto most of the time unless ultra dry
Hope that helps.
#40
Originally Posted by dynamix
5 correct geometry makes the tyres come alive and work properly .
Mark
#41
i can assure you it is a joke -take your car to the likes of TSL or any other alignment specialist to and see how consistent your current factory settings are. You will be shocked.
#43
to give you an idea of what mine were on my 2 day old car:
Front Left:
0.21 negative camber
1.1mm toe out
Front Right:
0.07 POSITIVE camber !!
0.7mm toe in
The rear continued along the same sort of figures.
Laughable - no wondered it tramlined and handled the way it did... still think it is a joke ?
My previous STi and Legacy were exactly the same - this is not a one off.
Its about £100 to check and change them - to settings that will make it handle properly on BRITISH ROADS... and at the same time prolong tyre life, make it safer to drive and more fun.
Front Left:
0.21 negative camber
1.1mm toe out
Front Right:
0.07 POSITIVE camber !!
0.7mm toe in
The rear continued along the same sort of figures.
Laughable - no wondered it tramlined and handled the way it did... still think it is a joke ?
My previous STi and Legacy were exactly the same - this is not a one off.
Its about £100 to check and change them - to settings that will make it handle properly on BRITISH ROADS... and at the same time prolong tyre life, make it safer to drive and more fun.
#45
[QUOTE=dynamix]
Laughable - no wondered it tramlined and handled the way it did... still think it is a joke ?QUOTE]
No I do not ! But I think its a P*ss take to sell a 'performance' car with 'AWD' (which they rave about as a fab selling point) with the alignment out...
Laughable - no wondered it tramlined and handled the way it did... still think it is a joke ?QUOTE]
No I do not ! But I think its a P*ss take to sell a 'performance' car with 'AWD' (which they rave about as a fab selling point) with the alignment out...
#47
Originally Posted by dreamer_girl
Ok thanks for that - is there a list of reputable specialists, or is it ok to use the dealer (I trust my local one from what I've seen of the service/parts guys so far)
Originally Posted by markmarkymark
No I do not ! But I think its a P*ss take to sell a 'performance' car with 'AWD' (which they rave about as a fab selling point) with the alignment out...
I wouldnt let my car near a main Subaru dealer for anything, all work is done at Subaru specialists that know and care about the cars - the cars dont need to be for serviced their for warranty purposes anymore.
#48
Originally Posted by dynamix
get the geometry done and the tramlining disappears - best £100 you will ever spend
tyres are not the culprit - once you have thr gith geometry the grip that the bridgestones offer is simply awe-inspiring
tyres are not the culprit - once you have thr gith geometry the grip that the bridgestones offer is simply awe-inspiring
My 06 STI is booked in at Carnetix (Melton Mowbray) on Friday for the Geometry to be set up as i have done 8200 miles & the outside edges are badly worn.
My only other complaint is the front seat, they don't give as much surport as the older STI models ie cars without side airbags.
I also have a rattle behind the dash, until i get round to removing some of the dash to find it i just turn the CD up.
#49
ta Kev - you are now the 4th person with rattle - design fault it looks like...
Dynamix - I live in the Reading area; where would I go about looking for somewhere to check out the alignment etc ...?
cheers
Mark
Dynamix - I live in the Reading area; where would I go about looking for somewhere to check out the alignment etc ...?
cheers
Mark
#52
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Powerstation are best part of 2 hours from Reading area - I used to live 1/2 hour from Powerstation and now live nearish to Reading. More local specialists are Subarus4you in Newbury and Power Engineering in Uxbridge, although I can't comment on either regarding geometry set-up, I'd suggest they're both well worth talking to.
Loss of power / almost cutting out after hard cornering is "fuel surge". They will all do that especially if the tank is less than 1/4 full, as the fuel sloshes away from the fuel pickup under the G forces of the cornering. If the tank is more than half full, it generally won't happen. The only engineered solution is to fit a "swirl pot" (do a search) or a baffled fuel tank. The problem is far from unique to Subarus, it does/will occur to some extent on most cars that can generate decently large cornering forces if the fuel tank is.
If you want to learn more, look up "fuel surge" in the search function. Particularly in relation to a now very old but fairly legendary post by a certain "Saxo Boy".
Loss of power / almost cutting out after hard cornering is "fuel surge". They will all do that especially if the tank is less than 1/4 full, as the fuel sloshes away from the fuel pickup under the G forces of the cornering. If the tank is more than half full, it generally won't happen. The only engineered solution is to fit a "swirl pot" (do a search) or a baffled fuel tank. The problem is far from unique to Subarus, it does/will occur to some extent on most cars that can generate decently large cornering forces if the fuel tank is.
If you want to learn more, look up "fuel surge" in the search function. Particularly in relation to a now very old but fairly legendary post by a certain "Saxo Boy".
#54
Originally Posted by kev m
My only other complaint is the front seat, they don't give as much surport as the older STI models ie cars without side airbags.
I also have a rattle behind the dash, until i get round to removing some of the dash to find it i just turn the CD up.
I also have a rattle behind the dash, until i get round to removing some of the dash to find it i just turn the CD up.
Rattles - give up on them .... its like a game of whack-o-mole
#56
i havent noticed any rattles, but i do have a firestorm exhaust on, so that eliminates any chance of hearing them!
the alignment is a must i would say, it totally changed the handling of my past scoobs, night to day is the only comparison i have.
Totally agree that the alignment should be set prior to release of the car, no wonder reviews always come back poor on scoobs!
the alignment is a must i would say, it totally changed the handling of my past scoobs, night to day is the only comparison i have.
Totally agree that the alignment should be set prior to release of the car, no wonder reviews always come back poor on scoobs!
#57
Originally Posted by hades
If you want to learn more, look up "fuel surge" in the search function. Particularly in relation to a now very old but fairly legendary post by a certain "Saxo Boy".
#58
anybody tell me if there are any geometry guys in the north east area, also just found out my local dealer (newcastle) is closing down, any suggestions for other dealers for services in the NE
Daz
Daz