honda integra dc5 v scoob sti
27 November 2006, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyberevo
You summed it up, I just couldn't be bothered to reply to him.. You forgot better brakes too...
I think not..... (the standard STi stops quicker than a standard Carrera 4S btw 
)You came on here, pretty much saying fwd is the best, I probably do more miles per year on more different types of roads in fwd cars (and ive done x country etc in all different types of vehicles and thats more exciting than doing a lap in a fwd car
) so your point is???You dont have one, simple.
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27 November 2006, 10:35 AM
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Got to admit, the brakes on my ITR, and my S2000 were far better than any of my scoobs (classic though - so no Brembo's) and my EVO 8. Mainly due to the weight I guess. Also, a well setup ITR handles like you wouldnt believe. Certainly better than either of my UK classics - not sure on the STi.
I know a few guys with AP's / Wilwoods on the S2000. Must be braking madness!
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I know a few guys with AP's / Wilwoods on the S2000. Must be braking madness!
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27 November 2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Got any info Roojai? Not heard of that before.
If Honda brought out an AWD turbo, I reckon it would be a real big seller. Guess they have no rally pedigree to back it up though - but wouldnt bother me.
Styled on the Mugen legend would be nice
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If Honda brought out an AWD turbo, I reckon it would be a real big seller. Guess they have no rally pedigree to back it up though - but wouldnt bother me.
Styled on the Mugen legend would be nice
MB
Check out this link on the DC-2 forum. A few made it to this country but I cannot find any live ads for them, they are all old removed ebay ads.
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27 November 2006, 12:00 PM
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The brakes on my CTR where in a different league to my 05 STI. The STI brakes were so spongy and lacking in stopping power that if I had kept the car they would have had to be changed. Technology has moved on but the Impreza hasn't.
27 November 2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueblaster
The brakes on my CTR where in a different league to my 05 STI. The STI brakes were so spongy and lacking in stopping power that if I had kept the car they would have had to be changed. Technology has moved on but the Impreza hasn't.
Well mine are exactly the same brakes and stop the car extremely well, no sponginess here
looks like you glazed your pads because the brembo's stop better than most if not all hot hatches ive come across Tony
27 November 2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Well mine are exactly the same brakes and stop the car extremely well, no sponginess here
looks like you glazed your pads because the brembo's stop better than most if not all hot hatches ive come across Tony
"My car's got Brembo's so it must be better"
Tony,
It takes more than shiny gold calipers. No one is doubting that the Brembos are better than the crap calipers the classics used to have.
But what about pad material?, discs?, cooling?, brake lines?, Fluid specs?, brake master cylinder?, ABS hardware & software?
IIRC DC5 ITRs have Brembos too. But cope better under duress than anything fitted to a Subaru. (as do the sliding calipers fitted to the DC2 for that matter
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27 November 2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Well mine are exactly the same brakes and stop the car extremely well, no sponginess here
looks like you glazed your pads because the brembo's stop better than most if not all hot hatches ive come across Tony
27 November 2006, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Much like you and "clue"
Ive already stated about the ability of these brakes, and for a standard set up they work very well.
Have you at any time owned a new age STi and seen over a period of time how the brakes are on these cars? no i hear? oh well, your the clueless one
(oh ive only owned mine for 3 years so I cannot comment on its out and out braking ability or handling for that matter )Tony
27 November 2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueblaster
That might be the case, however, given that I ran the car in like my granny was driving it it doesn't say much for the quality of the brake set up if they become useless that easily. Just another reason why I was spot on to bail out of the STI ASAP.
As for the brakes.... like all modern mass produced cars, discs will gain surface rust if left for long periods of time, this can decrease the performance of the car until its all cleared, it happened to me in my S16 when the discs had surface rust on them, you have to give the brakes a good couple of hefty stamps on them to clean them off, its natural though driving like a granny in a 265ps car isnt
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27 November 2006, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
You sort of defeated the object of buying one slightly
As for the brakes.... like all modern mass produced cars, discs will gain surface rust if left for long periods of time, this can decrease the performance of the car until its all cleared, it happened to me in my S16 when the discs had surface rust on them, you have to give the brakes a good couple of hefty stamps on them to clean them off, its natural though driving like a granny in a 265ps car isnt
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As for the brakes.... like all modern mass produced cars, discs will gain surface rust if left for long periods of time, this can decrease the performance of the car until its all cleared, it happened to me in my S16 when the discs had surface rust on them, you have to give the brakes a good couple of hefty stamps on them to clean them off, its natural though driving like a granny in a 265ps car isnt
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Any car which goes and grips as well as the STI will never receive a bad road test report. But put the car in an environment (like S.E. England) where it is not possible to appreciate these benefits and you may as well be driving an old Sierra. The STI is not a bad car, it is a pointless car. My opinion only and I don't want to get into a big row about it.
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Originally Posted by Roojai
The imaginary RWD ITR would not have the torque to break traction at the rear on the circuit for power oversteer and the real FWD ITR has such a good LSD and is so light weight (no heavy drive shafts and rear differentials) that it is as good as it could be as a FWD.
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Oh so you have 4 pot brembo with 330mm discs on the front and 2 pot 305mm on the rear I think not..... (the standard STi stops quicker than a standard Carrera 4S btw )
You came on here, pretty much saying fwd is the best, I probably do more miles per year on more different types of roads in fwd cars (and ive done x country etc in all different types of vehicles and thats more exciting than doing a lap in a fwd car) so your point is???
You dont have one, simple.
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I think not..... (the standard STi stops quicker than a standard Carrera 4S btw )You came on here, pretty much saying fwd is the best, I probably do more miles per year on more different types of roads in fwd cars (and ive done x country etc in all different types of vehicles and thats more exciting than doing a lap in a fwd car
) so your point is???You dont have one, simple.
Tony
