Hubby has a Scooby, I have a Seat Leon Cupra R.....But.....
26 November 2006, 01:34 AM
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Q.Ive got a FWD car thats cheap to buy and not that fast but if I do this, and add that chip, and dont do racing starts, dont drive in the wet, avoid bends and im doing 40 on boost, and youre caught napping and I floor it i'll beat you to hundred. So its a great car dont you think?
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26 November 2006, 10:29 AM
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Interesting. Mrs Maiden, we are in, kindah similar situations car wise. Only in my case the wife owns the STI (standard appart from cat back). And I have the tuned FWD car.
Just from my observations of going againsed other FWD cars on the strip and track in my we Honda, the thing that seems to upset other higher powered FWD cars overall balance is that often as not they are turbocharged, and in upping the boost they have in excess of 250 flbs of torque. And I think it is the torque that holds you back (like duh I guess
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I have a little less power than you, but I have 'only' 170flbs of torque. This seems to be just enough to give good mid/top end performance, however I very rarely suffer wheelspin as a low 5 second - 60 shows. A mid 13 second 1/4 and a top speed at Bruntingthorpe (Jtuner r.i.p group thrash) of 158.9 is fairly decent, that was from a standing start down the straight...it was still accelerating (barely) when I checkened out before the r/hander...So unlike some of the more blinkered 4wd fans here, you CAN have a FWD car that is both quick and flexible. It is all down to how it is set up.
I think our FWD cars would be close, though I rekon your torque would pull you ahead above 3 figures.
The wifes Scooby is the same power, but due to the delivery it is slower (just) in all situations, even round the twisties in the dry (the wet is different of course)...However that is an unfair comparison as I have spent at least 8k ontop of the cars price, whereas hers is all but standard.
If I spent half that on the scooby, I know what my cash would be on
, and it does not have the Red H on the front....
Just from my observations of going againsed other FWD cars on the strip and track in my we Honda, the thing that seems to upset other higher powered FWD cars overall balance is that often as not they are turbocharged, and in upping the boost they have in excess of 250 flbs of torque. And I think it is the torque that holds you back (like duh I guess
).I have a little less power than you, but I have 'only' 170flbs of torque. This seems to be just enough to give good mid/top end performance, however I very rarely suffer wheelspin as a low 5 second - 60 shows. A mid 13 second 1/4 and a top speed at Bruntingthorpe (Jtuner r.i.p group thrash) of 158.9 is fairly decent, that was from a standing start down the straight...it was still accelerating (barely
) when I checkened out before the r/hander...So unlike some of the more blinkered 4wd fans here, you CAN have a FWD car that is both quick and flexible. It is all down to how it is set up.I think our FWD cars would be close, though I rekon your torque would pull you ahead above 3 figures.
The wifes Scooby is the same power, but due to the delivery it is slower (just) in all situations, even round the twisties in the dry (the wet is different of course)...However that is an unfair comparison as I have spent at least 8k ontop of the cars price, whereas hers is all but standard.
If I spent half that on the scooby, I know what my cash would be on
, and it does not have the Red H on the front....
26 November 2006, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by super6four
Interesting. Mrs Maiden, we are in, kindah similar situations car wise. Only in my case the wife owns the STI (standard appart from cat back). And I have the tuned FWD car.
Just from my observations of going againsed other FWD cars on the strip and track in my we Honda, the thing that seems to upset other higher powered FWD cars overall balance is that often as not they are turbocharged, and in upping the boost they have in excess of 250 flbs of torque. And I think it is the torque that holds you back (like duh I guess).
I have a little less power than you, but I have 'only' 170flbs of torque. This seems to be just enough to give good mid/top end performance, however I very rarely suffer wheelspin as a low 5 second - 60 shows. A mid 13 second 1/4 and a top speed at Bruntingthorpe (Jtuner r.i.p group thrash) of 158.9 is fairly decent, that was from a standing start down the straight...it was still accelerating (barely) when I checkened out before the r/hander...So unlike some of the more blinkered 4wd fans here, you CAN have a FWD car that is both quick and flexible. It is all down to how it is set up.
I think our FWD cars would be close, though I rekon your torque would pull you ahead above 3 figures.
The wifes Scooby is the same power, but due to the delivery it is slower (just) in all situations, even round the twisties in the dry (the wet is different of course)...However that is an unfair comparison as I have spent at least 8k ontop of the cars price, whereas hers is all but standard.
If I spent half that on the scooby, I know what my cash would be on, and it does not have the Red H on the front....
Just from my observations of going againsed other FWD cars on the strip and track in my we Honda, the thing that seems to upset other higher powered FWD cars overall balance is that often as not they are turbocharged, and in upping the boost they have in excess of 250 flbs of torque. And I think it is the torque that holds you back (like duh I guess
).I have a little less power than you, but I have 'only' 170flbs of torque. This seems to be just enough to give good mid/top end performance, however I very rarely suffer wheelspin as a low 5 second - 60 shows. A mid 13 second 1/4 and a top speed at Bruntingthorpe (Jtuner r.i.p group thrash) of 158.9 is fairly decent, that was from a standing start down the straight...it was still accelerating (barely
) when I checkened out before the r/hander...So unlike some of the more blinkered 4wd fans here, you CAN have a FWD car that is both quick and flexible. It is all down to how it is set up.I think our FWD cars would be close, though I rekon your torque would pull you ahead above 3 figures.
The wifes Scooby is the same power, but due to the delivery it is slower (just) in all situations, even round the twisties in the dry (the wet is different of course)...However that is an unfair comparison as I have spent at least 8k ontop of the cars price, whereas hers is all but standard.
If I spent half that on the scooby, I know what my cash would be on
, and it does not have the Red H on the front....
26 November 2006, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by super6four
What a suprise..someone who misses the point 
I'm not slating any cars. Each to their own etc but a certain Ibiza owner was the one I was getting at. Now nip off back to school and go over the thread again afterward. I'm sure you'll get it eventually.
26 November 2006, 12:14 PM
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[QUOTE=Stainy]The 'point' is in your last line, or did you miss that?
'I'm not slating any cars'.....really?
Hardly suprising I rose to the bait, as you said.
'spend enough and you can polish a turd'
hardly complimentary...so I guess I'll be seeing you in school then
'I'm not slating any cars'.....really?
Hardly suprising I rose to the bait, as you said.
'spend enough and you can polish a turd'
hardly complimentary...so I guess I'll be seeing you in school then
26 November 2006, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stainy
The 'point' is in your last line, or did you miss that?
I'm not slating any cars. Each to their own etc but a certain Ibiza owner was the one I was getting at. Now nip off back to school and go over the thread again afterward. I'm sure you'll get it eventually.
I'm not slating any cars. Each to their own etc but a certain Ibiza owner was the one I was getting at. Now nip off back to school and go over the thread again afterward. I'm sure you'll get it eventually.
26 November 2006, 01:47 PM
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I think not. You're the one crowing about 'Slowbaru's', just giving you a dose of reality. 
For what it's worth, I don't think Ibiza's are turds either. If you want to throw pots of money at one to make it fast, then fair play. But when comparing like for like a standard scoob will beat a standard Ibiza and a highly modified Ibiza will still be drummed by a highly modified Scoob. So what exactly is the point (except you cant afford a highly modified scoob so you went for something else)
/edit Oh and I don't feel the need to nip on to an Ibiza site to troll.
Originally Posted by Stainy
Spend enough money and you can make a turd go fast (not that I think Leons are turds). Someone care to ask AndyF if he's worried by IHI Ibiza's?
/edit Oh and I don't feel the need to nip on to an Ibiza site to troll.
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26 November 2006, 02:01 PM
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Luckily I can afford a Highly modified scoob if i wanted one. But i dont. I dont drive what i have enough. I think you take things a little to much to heart. The odd word here or there has brung you to the surface....all to easy really.
27 November 2006, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Had a quick blast with a Leon Cupra R in my Evo 7 which was about 330bhp at the time, We where both sitting at the lights and I was day dreaming, He burned off, leaving me at the lights, Until I realised the lights had turned green and decided to catch up, trouble was I couldnt gain any ground on him. Must have been modded Cupra R as he left me a little embarrased that he did me at the lights and I couldnt catch him rolling either..
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