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Old 06 December 2006, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CLSII
Does anyone know of anyone who is actually offended by Christmas.

I certainly don't know a single muslim who is offended by the idea. Why would it cause offence?

Even if a person was offended by the mere existence of it are we seriously to believe that they could get it banned and awarded compensation if they went to court.

Who is this offended person or persons? I think we need to know.
i'm a Muslim, and in all honesty i couldn't giv a monkeys what you celebrate. You do your thing (Christmas), Muslims do their thing (Eid). if people get offended just by decorations, then that is pure stupidity!
Old 07 December 2006, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by J.Sutton
ask paul habgood dubai is an islamic place.
Exactly, so what is all the fuss about! Why can't you be allowed a few small decorations at work if you want - it doesn't offend.

JACKO, I do agree it's way to commericalised and that pressure to spend spend spend. That was a good summary of the worse aspects of it.

Christmas should be a time for a get together with the family and sharing - I don't think we should do away with it but it ought not to be stressful.
Old 07 December 2006, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Im not a Muslim and Christmas ofends me sometimes !

Or the monster that it has turned into does, there is nothing more desperate and soul destroying than a wet Wednesday in retail park near Rochdale traipsing round listening to Slade, Christmas (or at least the commercial/popular) side does, its like a checklist of ****ness is trotted out every years, same ****e music, same ****ty mild weather, same load of old toss on telly, same mind numbing 3 for 2 adverts, same tedious rituals dragged out from the end of October to the middle of january. So a wet wednesday at a retail park in Rochdale is always going to be bad for the soul but Slade increases the sheer desperation and futility by an order of magnitude.

It needs to evolve a bit, it needs to stop being the excuse for nothing being able to be done for two months at the end of the year, I am all for a break but its like we put this huge artificial immovable obstacle into the year and enforce rituals and a country wide shutdown so you get the time off but cannot do anything constructive and have to sit it out ready to go back to work half a stone heavier, liver in tatters and dreading the arrival of a credit card statement, not to mention the **** you made of yourself at the Christmas party.

It needs to trim down from the bloated monster it has become into a more low key affair, too much, too long and too expensive.

And ditch all that token religous crap, when people mention the true meaning of Christmas its just my cue to show them the true meaning of pain, its just the winter solstice that got nicked by the Christians, its a feast to say that the ****ty cold wet winter nights are half way through, only another three months of darkness.

And people start saying how 'Chrimassy' they feel, what the f*ck does that mean, I think it means that I have overcome my dread of the festive season and through the magic of Sherry I feel able to cope with it, bring it on motherf*ckers.

And feeling the need to wish someone a Merry Christmas make me cringe, Merry, why can't we just say 'Good luck old chap, see you on January the third, best of British luck and try not to stab the missus during a domestic on Boxing day'


Otherwise, its ok.
Well said.

I also get sick of receiving Christmas cards, and I hate to and rarely send any.

I also hate saying and having it said to me, "All the best" to every one I meet around new year.
All the best for what? I couldn't give a monkey's toss about you.

Saying all that though, I do find it a great excuse to get p155ed every night, and eat what I want. It's Christmas after all
Old 07 December 2006, 12:01 PM
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What a miserable place this would be at this time without Christmas decorations!

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Old 07 December 2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
What a miserable place this would be at this time without Christmas decorations!

Les
Well its miserable for the other 11 months of the year......... so what difference would one more month without them make!

It's the spirit of Christmas thats missing, not the decorations
Old 07 December 2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Well its miserable for the other 11 months of the year......... so what difference would one more month without them make!

It's the spirit of Christmas thats missing, not the decorations
And I thought it was the quality of posters that was missing here not the spirit or decorations
Old 07 December 2006, 12:43 PM
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Half the problem for me is that I can buy, eat and drink whatever I want the rest of the year. I don't need to wait and don't feel the need, it isn't the money thats the problem, its my health and desire to cut down on the ammount of crap in the house (not add to it) that are my overiding goals these days.

For me, its for kids and even they have too much these days, I used to yearn for one item at perhaps 30 quid tops and now they get so many things its obscene, my in laws are very generous but tend to get carried away and storing it all is a problem, at least the duplicates and stuff they have grown out of goes to charity for kids that arent so lucky.

It needs paring down by about 90%, witness the families in Tesco's loading up two trolleys, fat midddle aged bloke proudly pushing a trolley full of booze, enough for a year just for two days.

Treats have become normal daily fodder for many so in a vain attempt to make Christmas in some way special there is gross overconsumption, I have done it but not this year, Christmas dinner is worth the effort but I really dont need 8 cases of Stella, 20 bottle of wine and several of spirits to enjoy the holiday, in fact less is more as overdoing it just makes me feel wretched.
I always go for a walk on Christmas day and several times the big dinner takes its effects half way around and I end up hammering on the front door to be let in to leggit to the bog !
Old 07 December 2006, 01:01 PM
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I agree with a lot you say J4CKO, but you don't have to overindulge to have a good Christmas. The real pleasure should be in having a great time with family and friends and enjoying a bit of fun with the presents and the silly paper hats etc. Why not let your hair down for once in the year in a close family celebration. It does no harm to have a proper family get together with a bit of the Christmas spirit to go with it.

Before the flame guns light up, I do not consider it in any way to be a sign of weakness to make such a statement.

DCI, Decorations are all part of the Christmas spirit in case you had not noticed.

Les
Old 07 December 2006, 01:29 PM
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Exactly Les.

In fact, now I'm getting older *cough*, Xmas is just that. A nice relaxing few days off, some good food, see some relatives I dont' usually see. Hell, I can get a hangover and indigestion any time of the year!

And most of all, the kids love it.

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Old 07 December 2006, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I always go for a walk on Christmas day and several times the big dinner takes its effects half way around and I end up hammering on the front door to be let in to leggit to the bog !
I'd suggest you ban the wife from making the dinner, if that's the effect it has on you

Or stop walking
Old 07 December 2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The real pleasure should be in having a great time with family and friends and enjoying a bit of fun with the presents and the silly paper hats etc. Les
just as Jesus decreed
Old 08 December 2006, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ADILM
i'm a Muslim, and in all honesty i couldn't giv a monkeys what you celebrate. You do your thing (Christmas), Muslims do their thing (Eid). if people get offended just by decorations, then that is pure stupidity!
Exactly
Old 11 December 2006, 01:14 PM
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I dont think He had anything personally to do with initiating Christmas Ted Maul.

Les
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