7p a litre fuel tax increase from tonight
06 December 2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
He is absolutely correct. Look at the 1705 Act of Union or whatever its called. The Scots have a disproportionally high number of MPs for both their area and their population; and theyre mostly Labour MPs. If Scotland left the Union and became completely independant (like the Republic of Ireland) then thered be a massive Tory parliamentary majority.
You live and learn dont you?
You live and learn dont you?
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06 December 2006, 06:59 PM
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If I was equally pedantic Id point out that ward boundaries being dictated by population was adopted long after 1707, so my assetion that both population and area were pertinent, was correct.....
06 December 2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
The fekker has broke the bank 
Its gonna cost me 60p extra for a tank of fuel now, god help my mortgage payments
06 December 2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
And the next person I see use a credit card to pay for purchases of less than a fiver I will kick up the bum
.But I do agree with the point you're actually making
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06 December 2006, 07:25 PM
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"There will be an inflation rise in fuel duty from midnight"
So bloody what ... you were ALL paying (like me!) ... 100p a litre MINIMUM a few months back in the Summer!!
So, stop complaining that it will be 86p now - the government is going to use the 'extra' tax wisely on your behalf!
Most of you are a bunch of whinging, complaining, girls blouses!!
So bloody what ... you were ALL paying (like me!) ... 100p a litre MINIMUM a few months back in the Summer!!
So, stop complaining that it will be 86p now - the government is going to use the 'extra' tax wisely on your behalf!
Most of you are a bunch of whinging, complaining, girls blouses!!
06 December 2006, 07:38 PM
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Fuel should be £2 a litre so we can scrap road tax and road charging.
People can't escape petrol so it really is PAYG.
Helps congestion, unnecessary journeys etc.
It's simple, it'll work BUT the government do not get to track your driving. They won't be able to control you.
People can't escape petrol so it really is PAYG.
Helps congestion, unnecessary journeys etc.
It's simple, it'll work BUT the government do not get to track your driving. They won't be able to control you.
06 December 2006, 07:38 PM
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It seems everyone has also overlooked the fact this isn't just affecting you when you fill your car up. The fuel price will effect hauliers which will put their prices up and it will work its way down the supply chain to the end product which we pay for at the till. Its not just at the pumps we will be paying this tax increase.
This Labour Government are a total sham. I normally go to work by motorbike or car with a round trip of 80 miles a day. Labour want to force me and all road users during rush hour/peak times onto public transport by way of charging per mile or putting fuel up, either way making it too expensive to drive. So the alternative is the train?
This week I have used the train to London as i'm on a course in the city. What a ******* joke the trains have been, they haven't improved since the last time I used them years ago for my daily commute. If anything they are even more crowded. They can't cope now and are at massive over capacity on the trains yet they want to force car users onto the trains. How the **** do they intend to do this then? More trains? Guess what they can't as the rail routes are already at full capacity and they can't fit in anymore services during peak times. South Eastern trains can't even run rush hours trains from Maidstone to London Bridge because there is no capacity left on that main line to run trains from that station! So what's left? Extend platforms on existing routes for longer trains? Build new rail lines and stations? Not a chance, good old Labour are leaving the trains just as they are and let the private companies run them as they wish yet they tell car drivers to get on the trains
Labour haven't got a sodding clue about transport, just about charging the motorist through the nose for any new expenditure Labour need to cough up for
This Labour Government are a total sham. I normally go to work by motorbike or car with a round trip of 80 miles a day. Labour want to force me and all road users during rush hour/peak times onto public transport by way of charging per mile or putting fuel up, either way making it too expensive to drive. So the alternative is the train?
This week I have used the train to London as i'm on a course in the city. What a ******* joke the trains have been, they haven't improved since the last time I used them years ago for my daily commute. If anything they are even more crowded. They can't cope now and are at massive over capacity on the trains yet they want to force car users onto the trains. How the **** do they intend to do this then? More trains? Guess what they can't as the rail routes are already at full capacity and they can't fit in anymore services during peak times. South Eastern trains can't even run rush hours trains from Maidstone to London Bridge because there is no capacity left on that main line to run trains from that station! So what's left? Extend platforms on existing routes for longer trains? Build new rail lines and stations? Not a chance, good old Labour are leaving the trains just as they are and let the private companies run them as they wish yet they tell car drivers to get on the trains
Labour haven't got a sodding clue about transport, just about charging the motorist through the nose for any new expenditure Labour need to cough up for
06 December 2006, 07:48 PM
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Not a chance, they are all self important w@nkers, bit like someone on here then
You are correct, however, a ******
06 December 2006, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
If I was equally pedantic Id point out that ward boundaries being dictated by population was adopted long after 1707, so my assetion that both population and area were pertinent, was correct.....
After Devolution in 1997 the number of Scottish MPs was decreased from 72 to 59, the idea being to have consituencies based on the UK average of 67,000. The number of Scottish MPs was only 45 in 1707 but was increased on 3 separate occasions (by the UK parliament
) in the 19th century.Andy Mc
PS how do you quote from two separate posts ?!
07 December 2006, 12:48 AM
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If the trains were better there is the danger that you'd use them instead of your car! What would happen to the Govt coffers if we all did that ...
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Originally Posted by **************
This week I have used the train to London as i'm on a course in the city. What a ******* joke the trains have been, they haven't improved since the last time I used them years ago for my daily commute. If anything they are even more crowded. They can't cope now and are at massive over capacity on the trains yet they want to force car users onto the trains. How the **** do they intend to do this then? More trains? Guess what they can't as the rail routes are already at full capacity and they can't fit in anymore services during peak times. South Eastern trains can't even run rush hours trains from Maidstone to London Bridge because there is no capacity left on that main line to run trains from that station! So what's left? Extend platforms on existing routes for longer trains? Build new rail lines and stations? Not a chance, good old Labour are leaving the trains just as they are and let the private companies run them as they wish yet they tell car drivers to get on the trains Labour haven't got a sodding clue about transport, just about charging the motorist through the nose for any new expenditure Labour need to cough up for
Labour haven't got a sodding clue about transport, just about charging the motorist through the nose for any new expenditure Labour need to cough up for
07 December 2006, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Fuel should be £2 a litre so we can scrap road tax and road charging.
People can't escape petrol so it really is PAYG.
Helps congestion, unnecessary journeys etc.
People can't escape petrol so it really is PAYG.
Helps congestion, unnecessary journeys etc.
People rarely make unncessary journeys anymore - congestion is self regulating in that respect. Also I believe the authorities have been manipulating traffic light sequencing such as to cause congestion. These so called traffic calming additions to road have increased congestion also. It is clear to me that a while ago they decided they needed to create more congestion in the city centres and elsewhere to support the latest schemes for raising revenue.
07 December 2006, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
If the trains were better there is the danger that you'd use them instead of your car! What would happen to the Govt coffers if we all did that ...
TX.
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07 December 2006, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by **************
This week I have used the train to London as i'm on a course in the city. What a ******* joke the trains have been, they haven't improved since the last time I used them years ago for my daily commute. If anything they are even more crowded. They can't cope now and are at massive over capacity on the trains yet they want to force car users onto the trains. How the **** do they intend to do this then? More trains? Guess what they can't as the rail routes are already at full capacity and they can't fit in anymore services during peak times. South Eastern trains can't even run rush hours trains from Maidstone to London Bridge because there is no capacity left on that main line to run trains from that station! So what's left? Extend platforms on existing routes for longer trains? Build new rail lines and stations? Not a chance, good old Labour are leaving the trains just as they are and let the private companies run them as they wish yet they tell car drivers to get on the trains Labour haven't got a sodding clue about transport, just about charging the motorist through the nose for any new expenditure Labour need to cough up for
Labour haven't got a sodding clue about transport, just about charging the motorist through the nose for any new expenditure Labour need to cough up for It's what they want us to do, isn't it, use public transport. They'd be fcuked if we did.
As for Dracoro's comment of it should be £2 a litre. Please refer to Jonno_johnson's and Ben v7's comment's.
The price of everything would rise beyond belief. If it costs more to transport stock to the supermarkets, the supermarkets are going to claw all that cost back, by charging the customer.
07 December 2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
As for Dracoro's comment of it should be £2 a litre. Please refer to Jonno_johnson's and Ben v7's comment's.
The price of everything would rise beyond belief. If it costs more to transport stock to the supermarkets, the supermarkets are going to claw all that cost back, by charging the customer.
The price of everything would rise beyond belief. If it costs more to transport stock to the supermarkets, the supermarkets are going to claw all that cost back, by charging the customer.
Oh, I agree, my point wasn't to rise to to £2. My point (which I prob didn't make clear) is that if the government is sincere
in wanting to reduce congestion efficiently then this would be the best way to do it rather than raod charging, gps monitoring etc.People like cars, they are warm, comfy, don't have to mix with smelly people etc. So even if public transport were cheap and efficient, they'd still drive.
I suggest having proper cycle lanes in towns to get people pedalling, any journey under 3 miles can be easily cycled, maybe some other incentives to do so. Any journey under 1 mile can be walked too. Pedestrianise ALL town/city centres.
On main roads, build more exit entry ramps on to motorways. Proper slip roads on A roads rather than + junctions etc. Keep traffic moving. Much heavier police presence to stop middle lane drivers who cause most congestion on motorways. Clamp down on bad driving etc. Take the cars away from repeat offenders. i.e. get 6 points and part of the fine is your car removed for a week or a short ban rather than points. People will soon up their standards. get rid of many cameras whilke we're at it.
Anyewy, as I previously said, the govt aren't serious about this, what they are serious about is money and control.
07 December 2006, 11:29 AM
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I hear it has been reported that there will be no tax on breathing the air into out lungs-only a carbon tax on the carbon dioxide that we exhale. Don't say that we do not get a choice then.
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07 December 2006, 01:30 PM
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I see that houses who use zero carbons are to be exempt from taxes!! 
By zero carbons it includes houses that use electricity, as long as it generates within the property enough to pay it back to the grid - say overnight.
WELL DONE LABOUR!!
By zero carbons it includes houses that use electricity, as long as it generates within the property enough to pay it back to the grid - say overnight.
WELL DONE LABOUR!!
07 December 2006, 01:38 PM
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Labour really are destroying this country for short-term gain.
We have an economy based on spending borrowed money - thats sustainable
One guy at work has just moved to Cyprus and another to Oz in the past few weeks - I'll probably join the waves of skilled workers getting out before the ship sinks, but I guess Im still holding onto the tiny bit of hope that things might get turned around before it really is too late...
We have an economy based on spending borrowed money - thats sustainable
One guy at work has just moved to Cyprus and another to Oz in the past few weeks - I'll probably join the waves of skilled workers getting out before the ship sinks, but I guess Im still holding onto the tiny bit of hope that things might get turned around before it really is too late...
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