Ahem, apart from me !

 

well, what a load of bollox.

driving down a dark country raod at night then i see no reason why fogs cant be used, 2 reasons, they shed more light onto the road ahead, 2nd, road users oncoming in the distance stand a better chance of seeing you, forewarned is forarmed, as i said, when in clear sight of me, there off, so, how can i be posing to people if there not on toanyone infront???

do you lot ever drive whilst picking your nose, changing the radios, smoking, using the fone, i would be most are guilty of one if not more, well may i suggest you are far more dangerous than people with the non dazzeling fogs on, go get your eyes tested you bunch of decrepid old farts

 

OK, I admit it !

 

****, thats a 1st, sum1 on SN being honest lol

 

Tony
In my legacy had to take headlights out(as per manual) also my VW Polo and my VW New Beetle and not an HID bulb in sight.
However, i agree that it can be possible. In my MY99 Impreza LH headlight could do but RH headlight had to take/move airbox stuff to get into the bulb needing spanners.
Its not as easy in modern cars as it should be.

 

Without crack you'd have never been concieved, your old dear was chasing stones while you were just a twinkle in some tramps eye .

Anyways, why is this even a debate?. Brighter or not brighter dazzle or don't dazzle. They serve a purpose just like hazard lights, if you drove round with those on would you really be suprised if you were beeped, flashed, pulled over or even given a ticket. What is the point of driving with fog's on when its not foggy, it doesn't make you look good it makes you look like a ****. Considering the most likely offender of driving with fogs in daylight owns a Saxo VTR i'm suprised most scooby owners aren't doing their best to distance themselves from it.

Your not in a rally, your car doesn't look better for it, you **** off other road users and hopefully the filth will stop you and ticket you because your breaking the law and deserve it.

 

 

What if you've got translucent covers over them, (PIAA) does having giant "sidelights" on count as an offence ????

P.S. Anyone who's hit some numpty in a Metro.... saying "I didn't see you...." would CONSIDER using fogs when it's dry.

P.P.S. Not when it's wet, as they dazzle due to reflection off the wet road surface.

 

 

Talk about missing the point ! Go back to the beginning of the thread !

The point here is that front fogs were used temporarily to compensate for a failed headlamp bulb for a few days, and the fact that the Police specifically stated they would not have charged me for simply having a headlamp out.
That despite the fact that it was clearly safer to use my (non dazzle front fogs than to go for the "is that a motorbike or not ??" look !

Interestingly., I've noted a hell of a lot of people go around with their front fogs on ! (Never paid any attention to it before cos they don't dazzle me ).

So the question isn't "Should folk go about with their front fogs on every day".
Rather, it's "Were the Police acting reasonably, or should they simply have insisted I get the headlamp fixed immediately. and warned me not to use the front fogs in this situaion again."

 

You said that fogs were brighter than dipped beam, hence me thinking you may have been under the influence of some form of mind bending illegal substance. I'm not sure there's any reason to bring my mum into this, as far as I know her car doesn't even have front fog lights (let alone have a switch that she'd know about!).

 

Wayhay !! My thread's over 100 posts !!

 

nah, thats not on mate, i would follow that one up if i were you.

 

Bo back read the thread again and you'll see i made a comment about your original post. After this several comments were made along the lines of "I drive with my fogs on, the don't dazzle blah blah blah" so i responded to that.

Point is you won't do the same again, so the police have done their job now they just need to catch murders and alls well.

 

Not so sure they did !

I won't do the same again, but I saw zillions of other folk with their front fogs on when driving home ( "zillions" means more than half a dozen ). Was clear that the attention of the Police was drawn to my car because of the failed headlamp (ie leaving a side light on that side), yet that's not what they charged me with ! Wouldn't have minded so much if they had !

 

Back to the original point, feel sorry for you and the over-zealous officer, probably would have done the same myself if I had a light fail (would have fixed it as soon as I got home though).

But could you imagine the scene in court if you decided to appeal -

over zealous officer: "Mr Jock is accused of using his high performance vehicle, at night, knowing his regulation lighting was not in legal working order; furthermore the accused was illegally using unsuitable lights designed for inclement conditions, at this time he had no intention of repairing his vehicle and intended using the vehicle in such an unroadworthy state at night."

elderly lady judge: "Is this true?"

jock: "yes, but....."

Suggest you pay the fine & remember 'what goes around - comes around' the officer will get his pay back in time. Similar case happened to me a few years back, overtook an off duty officer within double white lines (I was on my motorbike), he decided to 'interview' me at my parents home at 10.30pm on a Saturday night, 5 page interview, which he read in court. It was my word(young biker on a powerful motorcycle) against him, in uniform, in court. Needless to say, I lost & had to pay up.
It wasn't all bad as a few years later the officer nearly drowned when he landed his police car upside down in a river - he must have picked on quite a few others to end up this way!.

 

I like the imagery here. PMSL !

 

Not to hard to imagine 'cos it really did happened to me; In court I was 'riding a high performance large motorcycle' when I allegedly crossed double white lines, the judge looked like he had been wheeled out of the neighbouring care home!!!

The only thing that went in my favour was I was on crutches from breaking my leg; in front of the judge the copper asked if I had crashed my 'machine' in such a condesending way, even though it happened on a 'crosser I told him "no I fell off a ladder helping my dad decorate". The copper knew it wasn't true but doddery old judge took pity on me & only fined me £30 - said copper was well arsey.

 

 

Agree with you all.
Add to this tally those who drive with the REAR fog on!
You have to follow them for miles being dazzled where the fronts are painful for a few seconds.

Car designers should have the warnings in the dash so dumbwits can see them (may still not notice them though)
Then there are drivers who drive down the road with the car park ticket still slapped on the front screen where you look!

Best stay at home tonight.

Graham

 

Nothing like hedging your bets, eh Graham ?

 

Simply being honest!
I agree!

I don't think anything is wrong in that.

The originator had a good reason for the spots 'on'.
The police missed the point and did him.
We all feel that was wrong, and have voiced that here quite rightly.

Graham.

 

UK 2006

 

You seem to have this obsession with genitals. Almost every thread you post on you bring it up... everyone who speeds has "microscopic genitals"... genitals this, genitals that. I suggest you talk this over with someone - get some help.

 

i assume you dont own a modern car then try changing one on a new renault double jointed arms and working blind from inside the wheel arch! new polo, remove whole front bumper. even a focus is a bit of a t*** with no room.


anyway were i live there are so many coffin dodgers driving around its scary. you see them at the petrol station takes 15 mins just to put £5 in there micra then drive off at 10 mph in a howl of clutch slip oblivious to all around. till i fit my hids back on my scooby then the fogs are ON i am fed up of people pulling out on me. and no i dont drive like a **** speeding everywere. but on one journey last week over 6 miles 4 people pulled straight out on me. as far as im concerned if im dazzling you at least you saw me!

"FOGS ON AND PROUD"

 

Cheers Graham.

By the way, I was the originator !!

Andy Mc

PS any chance of a shot in your 911 ?