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Originally Posted by gatty
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asif, i have major issues with the generic muslim issue the way they colonise do not intergrate think there above our laws, 25 % asbos are given to young asian lads (these are our future) the list goes on!. Your all lodgers here until you toe the line millions of British folk will not accept them as true nationals until these issues are solved.
call us racist , biggots etc... i dont matter theres too many of us who think the same. Your still the minority along with the pc brigade , the masses see things my way.
I don't believe those numbers, do you have a source perhaps?
I am not a lodger here, regardless of what you think.
I believe the only party to advocate repatriation of existing British citizens is the BNP. I am convinced that hell will freeze over before they actually pay me £25k to bugger off somewhere else, whether they are in power or not.
After all, who will be left to pay your granny's pension, your disability benefit and your dole? Economic reality has to be grasped before you realise the complete pie in the sky vision that you have.
Whether millions think it or not, no one seems to actually vote for it do they?
See? I have read your posts now, so please do me the courtesy of reading mine. I would be most intrigued to hear your view. The post number was 42 I think and would keep this thread on topic.
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asif your well placed to put them veiws across, fairplay.
however i am speaking genericaly and as a True English man you have to respect my veiw as i would yours in say pakistan. If thats the way you have been brought up in tour mother land.
this is mine, pakistan is yours you cant have both.
if all were like you maybe things would be different,
statistics are all over the place are they called almanacks? home office? the asbo one was on gmtv two weeks ago.
the question you got to ask your self is , you say all the muslims i know blah blah blah are angels etc.. why is there still major issues with the masses we cant ALL be wrong?
however i am speaking genericaly and as a True English man you have to respect my veiw as i would yours in say pakistan. If thats the way you have been brought up in tour mother land.
this is mine, pakistan is yours you cant have both.
if all were like you maybe things would be different,
statistics are all over the place are they called almanacks? home office? the asbo one was on gmtv two weeks ago.
the question you got to ask your self is , you say all the muslims i know blah blah blah are angels etc.. why is there still major issues with the masses we cant ALL be wrong?
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Originally Posted by gatty
asif your well placed to put them veiws across, fairplay.
however i am speaking genericaly and as a True English man you have to respect my veiw as i would yours in say pakistan. If thats the way you have been brought up in tour mother land.
this is mine, pakistan is yours you cant have both.
if all were like you maybe things would be different,
statistics are all over the place are they called almanacks? home office? the asbo one was on gmtv two weeks ago.
the question you got to ask your self is , you say all the muslims i know blah blah blah are angels etc.. why is there still major issues with the masses we cant ALL be wrong?
however i am speaking genericaly and as a True English man you have to respect my veiw as i would yours in say pakistan. If thats the way you have been brought up in tour mother land.
this is mine, pakistan is yours you cant have both.
if all were like you maybe things would be different,
statistics are all over the place are they called almanacks? home office? the asbo one was on gmtv two weeks ago.
the question you got to ask your self is , you say all the muslims i know blah blah blah are angels etc.. why is there still major issues with the masses we cant ALL be wrong?
I don't believe that 'true' English men would have that view. I am very good friends with many 'true' English men and they do not have that view at all. Would you say they were wrong?
If Pakistan is my Motherland how do you explain the fact that I have never been there? My heritage is just that, as is my upbringing.
Now you can't possibly expect people like me to integrate when I am always going to be labelled as 'foreign', 'paki', 'immigrant' etc etc would you? I mean why should I, under those cirsumstances?
If all people were like me the World would be a very boring place and we would all have badly driven Scoobs!!
I dont know about those stats, I am not going to look up something I dont believe is true, usual practice on here is to back up what you say with some facts.
Your final point is, why do people think that way about Muslims if they are so good? I don't know to be honest.
I have no problem with discussing uncomfortable facts about any group of people - even my own, as long as that discussion is open and a two way street then no one can complain or get upset, can they?
But are the actions of one, a hundred, or even a million people who are part of a group of 1.3 billion, representative of that whole group? I dont think so.
Some of the actions of some of the Muslims in this country are very poor and very bad, of that there is no question and no arguement from me. But why do I have to be tarred with the same brush as these people?
If you took the worst elements of white, British, society and said that ALL British people were like that, how would you feel? Would it be fair?
There is a lot more to the answer to that point, in my opinion, but that is just a start.
Asif
PS to say that I do respect your view, when you put it like that.
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Originally Posted by gatty
like it or not i dont care that drivel is my and millions more opinions.
theres absolutly nothing you can do about it.
sorry to be abrubt if thats how you spell it.
i am so happy being so English you can keep your suggestion about mixing
theres absolutly nothing you can do about it.
sorry to be abrubt if thats how you spell it.
i am so happy being so English you can keep your suggestion about mixing
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Originally Posted by Suresh
My comment went so far over your head that air traffic control saw it even though you didn't
Aren't you even the slightest bit embarassed by your single digit IQ?
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oh shurish ...............no i am not. not in the slightest not even a teeny weeny little bit.
its still the veiw of millions will be today tommorrow and until theres radical change.
next insult please
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Gatty,
I don't believe that 'true' English men would have that view. I am very good friends with many 'true' English men and they do not have that view at all. Would you say they were wrong?
If Pakistan is my Motherland how do you explain the fact that I have never been there? My heritage is just that, as is my upbringing.
Now you can't possibly expect people like me to integrate when I am always going to be labelled as 'foreign', 'paki', 'immigrant' etc etc would you? I mean why should I, under those cirsumstances?
If all people were like me the World would be a very boring place and we would all have badly driven Scoobs!!
I dont know about those stats, I am not going to look up something I dont believe is true, usual practice on here is to back up what you say with some facts.
Your final point is, why do people think that way about Muslims if they are so good? I don't know to be honest.
I have no problem with discussing uncomfortable facts about any group of people - even my own, as long as that discussion is open and a two way street then no one can complain or get upset, can they?
But are the actions of one, a hundred, or even a million people who are part of a group of 1.3 billion, representative of that whole group? I dont think so.
Some of the actions of some of the Muslims in this country are very poor and very bad, of that there is no question and no arguement from me. But why do I have to be tarred with the same brush as these people?
If you took the worst elements of white, British, society and said that ALL British people were like that, how would you feel? Would it be fair?
There is a lot more to the answer to that point, in my opinion, but that is just a start.
Asif
PS to say that I do respect your view, when you put it like that.
I don't believe that 'true' English men would have that view. I am very good friends with many 'true' English men and they do not have that view at all. Would you say they were wrong?
If Pakistan is my Motherland how do you explain the fact that I have never been there? My heritage is just that, as is my upbringing.
Now you can't possibly expect people like me to integrate when I am always going to be labelled as 'foreign', 'paki', 'immigrant' etc etc would you? I mean why should I, under those cirsumstances?
If all people were like me the World would be a very boring place and we would all have badly driven Scoobs!!
I dont know about those stats, I am not going to look up something I dont believe is true, usual practice on here is to back up what you say with some facts.
Your final point is, why do people think that way about Muslims if they are so good? I don't know to be honest.
I have no problem with discussing uncomfortable facts about any group of people - even my own, as long as that discussion is open and a two way street then no one can complain or get upset, can they?
But are the actions of one, a hundred, or even a million people who are part of a group of 1.3 billion, representative of that whole group? I dont think so.
Some of the actions of some of the Muslims in this country are very poor and very bad, of that there is no question and no arguement from me. But why do I have to be tarred with the same brush as these people?
If you took the worst elements of white, British, society and said that ALL British people were like that, how would you feel? Would it be fair?
There is a lot more to the answer to that point, in my opinion, but that is just a start.
Asif
PS to say that I do respect your view, when you put it like that.
ok asif theres nothing there i can argue with, not realy.
but how can i put it......... my family and many close friends , neighbours etc.. once lived in an area in brum slowly muslims moved in all around and very quickly the houses became scruffy the whole area got run down and now 25 years on its totally muslim?
this is the start, then you move away to other areas. by this point you have an opinion on muslims because its personnel to you.
then when you say drive through sparkhill ans see total colonisation not intergration, look i have work now but will explain well try to. make you aware why so many think like me.
good post though, positive.
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Originally Posted by gatty
oh shurish ...............no i am not. not in the slightest not even a teeny weeny little bit.
its still the veiw of millions will be today tommorrow and until theres radical change.
next insult please
the dim racist
its still the veiw of millions will be today tommorrow and until theres radical change.
next insult please
the dim racist
I think I get it now. I read something about your predicament before - the white underclass in society is upset that it is being challenged for position by damn darkie immigrant furriners. Even worse than that, they are coming off second best. I now understand why you're upset - it can't be good sitting at the bottom of the heap.
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Poor whites | The forgotten underclass | Economist.com
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Originally Posted by Suresh
I think I get it now. I read something about your predicament before - the white underclass in society is upset that it is being challenged for position by damn darkie immigrant furriners. Even worse than that, they are coming off second best. I now understand why you're upset - it can't be good sitting at the bottom of the heap.
I suggest you get used to it though!
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I suggest you get used to it though!
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brought up by Gatty !
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Read the article chap. It is relevant.
This one about multi cultural Britain is also excellent and contrasts black vs muslim immigration. Maybe someone can read it to gatty?
Sorry.
Multicultural Britain | A nation at ease with bits of itself | Economist.com
This one about multi cultural Britain is also excellent and contrasts black vs muslim immigration. Maybe someone can read it to gatty?
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Read the article chap. It is relevant.
This one about multi cultural Britain is also excellent and contrasts black vs muslim immigration. Maybe someone can read it to gatty?
Sorry.
Multicultural Britain | A nation at ease with bits of itself | Economist.com
This one about multi cultural Britain is also excellent and contrasts black vs muslim immigration. Maybe someone can read it to gatty?
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your a bully
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Originally Posted by gatty
surish, why do you love to put me down ? when have i attacked anyone or you?
your a bully
your a bully
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I've told you more than once that sometimes you make good sense. However you still go on generalising that all darkies scrounge, thieve etc. etc. You can't see the difference between a hard working Asian who is well-educated, well-integrated and contributes to society and one who walks around spouting terrorist nonsense and hates it here in the west so much he wants to destroy it.
You learn to tell the difference and maybe I'll afford you some respect.
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Originally Posted by Suresh
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I've told you more than once that sometimes you make good sense. However you still go on generalising that all darkies scrounge, thieve etc. etc. You can't see the difference between a hard working Asian who is well-educated, well-integrated and contributes to society and one who walks around spouting terrorist nonsense and hates it here in the west so much he wants to destroy it.
You learn to tell the difference and maybe I'll afford you some respect.
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in my opinion and home office stats show pound for pound there the worst offenders. that is that
this is our motherland respect it
love it or leave it . simple as that
your kind surish just gets the back up of the masses , theres far more people who think like me than they do you , dont take sn as a guide on national opinion .
if every muslim is described as what you think thery are then we wouldent be having this debate.
get off your station kiddo its way to big for you.
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A Somalian arrives in Brum as a new immigrant to the UK. He stops the first
person he sees walking down the street and says, "Thank you Mr. England for
letting me in this country, and giving me housing, money, benefits, free
medical care and free education!" But the passer-by says "You are mistaken,
I am Polish".
The man goes on and encounters another passer-by. "Thank you for having such
a beautiful country here in Britain!" The person says "I no British, I
Pakistani."
The new arrival walks further, and the next person he sees he stops, shakes
his hand and says "Thank you for the wonderful United Kingdom!" That person
puts up his hand and says "I am from Middle East, I am not an Englishman!"
He finally sees a nice lady and asks suspiciously, "Are you a Brit?" She
says, "No, I am from Jamaica!" So he is puzzled, and asks her, "Where are
all the Brits?" The Jamaican lady looks at her watch, shrugs, and says.
"Probably at work!"
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person he sees walking down the street and says, "Thank you Mr. England for
letting me in this country, and giving me housing, money, benefits, free
medical care and free education!" But the passer-by says "You are mistaken,
I am Polish".
The man goes on and encounters another passer-by. "Thank you for having such
a beautiful country here in Britain!" The person says "I no British, I
Pakistani."
The new arrival walks further, and the next person he sees he stops, shakes
his hand and says "Thank you for the wonderful United Kingdom!" That person
puts up his hand and says "I am from Middle East, I am not an Englishman!"
He finally sees a nice lady and asks suspiciously, "Are you a Brit?" She
says, "No, I am from Jamaica!" So he is puzzled, and asks her, "Where are
all the Brits?" The Jamaican lady looks at her watch, shrugs, and says.
"Probably at work!"
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Gatty,
Have you not seen the "sink" estates which are inhabited only by indigenous Brits? You would do well to broaden your thinking!
Les
Have you not seen the "sink" estates which are inhabited only by indigenous Brits? You would do well to broaden your thinking!
Les
your probably right les i should , but i was bought up a certain way a way with standards and not to loose sight of them.
your right about our own home grown chavs /idiots there a result of our falling standards in our socioty brought on by brainwashed pc pillocks.
i , with millions of others see it this way.
but every one seems to think i hate all muslims its not the case .
i have issues with cast systems in the hindu religion , i dont like the idea of halal meat well jew meat(the way its killed) whatever its called . but thats just me and my thoughts.
your forgetting for as extreme you think i am theres plenty more in the ethnic poulation who have issues with the way us brits go about things. please dont forget that.
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Originally Posted by Suresh
So you think every Asian is a muslim then.
and you think I'm a muslim 'fanatacist' ?
Quite frankly you deserve to be bottom of the pile![Thumb](images/smilies/thumb.gif)
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and you think I'm a muslim 'fanatacist' ?
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Quite frankly you deserve to be bottom of the pile
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oh suresh your snapping at my anlkes stop it your annoying.
like i said before come down a few pegs that peg your on is to tall for you.
i know which scoobynetters on here who has the clowt your not one of them. you just try to hard , but you resort to insults and picking the man who sticks his middle fingure up on the r/h/s of this page to try and mock me.
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Originally Posted by gatty
oh suresh your snapping at my anlkes stop it your annoying.
like i said before come down a few pegs that peg your on is to tall for you.
i know which scoobynetters on here who has the clowt your not one of them. you just try to hard , but you resort to insults and picking the man who sticks his middle fingure up on the r/h/s of this page to try and mock me.
ttfn
like i said before come down a few pegs that peg your on is to tall for you.
i know which scoobynetters on here who has the clowt your not one of them. you just try to hard , but you resort to insults and picking the man who sticks his middle fingure up on the r/h/s of this page to try and mock me.
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Oh grow up! I don't think I've ever used the two fingered emoticon on you (I think that's what your trying to say
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In the meantime, its okay to cry. If I were at the bottom of the pile, I probably would too!
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Oh grow up! I don't think I've ever used the two fingered emoticon on you (I think that's what your trying to say
). I know that I even green blobbed you in the past for posts that made good sense despite being rather badly written
In the meantime, its okay to cry. If I were at the bottom of the pile, I probably would too!![Cry2](images/smilies/cry2.gif)
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In the meantime, its okay to cry. If I were at the bottom of the pile, I probably would too!
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oh ok then,
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Oh grow up! I don't think I've ever used the two fingered emoticon on you (I think that's what your trying to say
). I know that I even green blobbed you in the past for posts that made good sense despite being rather badly written
In the meantime, its okay to cry. If I were at the bottom of the pile, I probably would too!![Cry2](images/smilies/cry2.gif)
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In the meantime, its okay to cry. If I were at the bottom of the pile, I probably would too!
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just cant understand it i dont feel loved
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i thought you were a friend, your all bullys.
does it worry you that millions think like me? We cant all be wrong.
which pile you talking about ? it must be massive , full of the majority. Almost mountain sized.
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@adlim
just cant understand it i dont feel loved
i thought you were a friend, your all bullys.
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B1TCH *** HOE!!
whats that mean, buddy?
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just cant understand it i dont feel loved
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i thought you were a friend, your all bullys.
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B1TCH *** HOE!!
whats that mean, buddy?
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[QUOTE=ADILM]
I am NOT your 'buddy'. ****!
ha ha ha
name calling you beaut!! you are a cool dood kind of guy.
i love you
you a muzzer?
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I am NOT your 'buddy'. ****!
ha ha ha
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name calling you beaut!! you are a cool dood kind of guy.
i love you
you a muzzer?