It's not just people that have been passed that feel the need to make their presence known.
I have on occasion been flashed by on coming cars. Not for cutting it fine either.
Imagine a mile long straight. The bloke in the beige Rover has been doing my head in for a couple of twisting miles, meandering across on to the wrong side, slamming on for corners etc etc.
I know the straight is coming, so change gear and drop back slightly.
I can see all the way to the end is clear, so a quick check for bikes and floor it.
As I am alongside I see another car appear at the far end of the straight, but still a good 3/4 of a mile away.
For the 10 secs or so that it takes this gimp to get to me, he is flashing away like a mad man- which sets off grandad behind.
I've been to night clubs with less of a lightshow.

I wonder how much of a gap these people need for pulling out?

 

Someone flashed me the other week when i overtook him. And i wouldn't mind there was no one coming the other way at all, This guy was flashing and honking his horn, he was practically foaming at the mouth 'cos i overtook him the thing is he caught me on a bad day, i slammed my brakes on and jumped out of the car, i was feckin blazing. anyway this tw*t panics and locks all his doors and starts writing my reg down and gesturing to his phone, i thought he was gonna start blubbing - i found this comical so i stuck two fingers up and buggered off and let him get on with it.

I thought well dont f**king flash me next time

 

He won't be doing that again in a hurry - fair play!

 

you were in the right to do so for sure, but after reacting like this I always feel a bit guilty for allowing myself to get so wound up.

most people drive badly, try and ignore it, if they bring it to you then that's another story

 

Let me assure you it happens nowadays whatever you drive. Most people on the roads simply do not overtake on single carriageway roads ever, and therefore are outraged when I do it to them. I only ever overtake when I've got a good quarter mile of clear road ahead of me, so I don't have to cut in close, and I can just take it easy. But still they then put their lights on full beam behind me, like I give a ****, and it gets even better... a number of times, something else appears in the distance coming the other way and they are still so caught up in road rage trying to blind me from the rear that the traffic coming the other way flashes THEM to tell to dip their lights. *****.

I have come up with a new strategy, that works. If someone puts their lights on full beam behind you, which is clearly nothing but a way to try and irritate you, do the same to them - stick your rear fog light on and slow down to the same speed their doing until they dip their headlights. Soon as they do, foglight off, foot down. If everyone does this, eventually these ***** will learn to pay more attention to their own driving before getting up in arms about other people who actually need to get to places.

 

What really annoys me is the 'sheep'. You've seen them, there is a slow driver doing say 45 in a 60, and maybe 10 cars following behind like sheep.

No problem, except they all drive really close to the car in front and have absolutely no intention of overtaking. But what they are more intent on is stopping anyone else overtaking - you make a move and they will pull forward till they are driving dangerously close to the car in front.

It doesn't bother me someone not having the guts to try and overtake, but why try and stop someone else safely doing so? You have to take the car into account, been there myself - desperate to overtake but knowing I can't do so safely (not in the Scoob ) but actually dropping back or indicating left to let a 'quick' car behind know that I can see they want to get past and I'm going to help them do so.

The obvious exception being some **** who drives right up my a*se. I'm never really in a hurry as I always leave in plenty of time - so I will happily drive well below the speed limit to annoy them.

 

Now this is my biggest gripe, in fact it drives me insane, especially when they close up and try and keep you out (matching your pace braking/accelerating etc..!). They should be charged with attempted murder IMHO..

As said, it's this queue jumping mentality that English (sheep) people have..!

I'd love to see the introduction of these signs (see below quote), then you could drag the ******* back and throw them head first through one..

 

had a bit more thought about this subject...

years back, the government said publically that they wanted to make speeding as taboo and anti-social as drink driving.

I am afraid to say that they are winning.

 

If someone flashes you when you overtake, look at it as a compliment and who gives a monkeys toss what others think as long as its safe

 

Back in my younger days over 20 years ago, i actually stopped and thumped a guy for doing just such a thing. It was a blatant attempt to ensure i stayed out in the oncoming lane, despite both of us knowing there was a car fast approaching.
The problem for me at the time (bearing in mind you only have a few seconds if not split seconds to react to the situation) was what action to take.
I took the action of trying to pass the vehicle since it was way more powerful than the vehicle i was overtaking. In hindsight i should have braked and pulled back in, but with the situation as it was, i got the feeling he would have braked to continually match my speed.
As it was, instead of initially travelling at 50mph behind this car (for around 2-3 miles), my speed increased to around 70 to overtake. The end up was we all slowed down to around the 20mph mark cause there was the distinct possibility of an rta.
I got in front of the car i overtook, stopped him, yanked open his door and thumped him, mouthing exactly what you just quoted.
Not a clever thing to do by any manner of means and afterwards i did worry about the consequences of my actions, but i was so incensed at the time, it was a knee jerk reaction. Nothing ever came about it thankfully so maybe he took it as a lesson.

Nowadays when i overtake, i tend to pass them with the minimum of obstruction to their progress and on the way back in, raise my hand as if to thank them for letting me through. Seems to have the desired effect, as it appears to those that you've overtaken, that you're accepting it was wrong to overtake. Makes them think they were in the right that you shouldn't be overtaking...

 

Suprise and ignorance is the main reason people react the way they do. You cant do much about ignorant road users but you can try and limit the shock suprise factor, particulary at night.

My top tip:
Dont drive to close (this only riles people), as you are about to overtake a little flash of the headlights (this should make them look in there rear view mirror) indicate, full beam and full beans!

 

Dick wit deserved it..

 

I'm guesing not much stops you from overtaking these days (IIRC you're the gentleman with the 500bhp scooby featured in Scoobymag), eh Alan?

Ns04

 

Yes, i'm the owner of "UK500" Ns04.
Certainly overtaking is not an issue now! If anything, when you overtake someone, you've carried out the manouevre before they've even realised you've done it! , but i still give a thankful wave just to take any potential grievence away from the situation.
I'm not proud of what i did at all and i shouldn't have done it, but it was the blatant deliberance that that driver made the utmost effort to keep me in the line of oncoming traffic with the potential for an accident that riled me so much.
I should have backed off (not many drivers do back off when "committed" to a manoeuvre), but the actions of the driver gave me the impression that he was going to try and mimic everything i did, plus i didn't have the time to make that decision. It was deliberate dangerous driving.
What was odd about the whole situation was that i had kept a safe distance for at least 2 to 3 miles cause i knew there would be no opportunity to pass until the point that i made the manoeuvre. There was no indication that the driver in front had an issue with me. I can only think that he had had some bad experience in the past with an owner of a similar type vehicle and so thought he'd be clever and try and teach me a lesson. Who knows? It was over 20 years ago. I'm just glad i wasn't charged with assault.

 

Which brings me to my next gripe. What is it with the same drivers not using high beam on empty unlit roads? They drive slow beacuse they can't see...so why don't they turn their high beams on?

On a number of occasions, when I "know" there is a good overtaking straight I have to pull into the opposing lane, and put on my high beams and make sure there is nothing ahead (like that odd bend you sometimes forget about )before carrying on with the overtake...if they had their high beams on I would have been able to see if it was safe to pass for myself with having to pull out into the other lane, and maybe they would drive at a more apporpriate speed as they could see where they were going.

 

One of the problems with a lot of drivers (who see driving as a means of A to B rather than enjoyment) is that they don't look far enough ahead to see any *potential* hazards. They only look at what is approximately 20-30 feet in front of them. A bit of a no brainer in my opinion cause if you look as far ahead as you can, if there's anything untoward happening nearer, your eyes automatically focus in on the hazard.
A lot of drivers don't actually concentrate on their driving as such, especially when they're on familiar roads where they've encountered no issues whatsoever in the past. They become complacent and in our crowded roads that's one thing you can't be, but yes, i like to take advantage of others lighting to see what's going on ahead, especially on country roads.

 

Nothing has changed in the last 6 years...

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It is a phenomenom not restricted to scoobs. I get loads of flashes if I overtake in my XC70 too

The one that gets me is slowing down to 5 mph for those silly square ramps in London - ones you can straddle without needing to slow down. Sometimes, I am known to overtake cars doing that and still staying well within the 30mph limit (obviously only when it is clearly safe to do so). Amount of flashing that gets LOL

 

LOL, I''ve done that too on some occasions. How hard it is it to position the car so it can straddle the humps, many people seem completely incapeable of doing that?

I even overtook some crappy riced up scoob who has a silly splitter and lowering kit so was crawling at 2mph over a set of mild full width speedhumps, I normally just fly over them at 30mph (when safe to do so, of course). All for the sakes of vanity and fast and furious, eh?

Also had some feejits up my ****, possibly goading me to race (in an urban area :rolleyes). Come the spped bumps, I leave them for dead.

Thing is, some people brake whilst going over the bump and also travel too slow over them, which make it a harder bump (braking loads up the suspension, driving too slow doesn't allow it to react enough) if you keep a constant moderate speed and keep in a high gear or coast over them the bump is nowhere near as severe (high gear/coasting stops the backlash though the drivetrain).

 

Similar thing this morning.

Behind a Cooper S jobbie, 2 way traffic, get to the lights, after which it goes to a dual carriageway for about half a mile then goes back to a single lane.

Lights change, Cooper S doesn't speed up, I signal & overtake, he boots it, catches me unawares,I then have to make up some ground as, it is going back to single lane.

I wasn't in any way annoying him, too close etc, don't understand it?

If I didn't have the ability to outpace him, it could have been naughty.

He then flashed me!!

Problem was, I was going so fast to get past him before, I ran out of road, the poor sod in front of me nearly poohed himself!

Cooper S turns off and, when we get to the next junction bloke in front shakes his head & once again, Scooby driver will get talked about unfairly.

What is going on?

Alan MaC

 

That Ferrari 360, wouldn't happen to be Mike Newtons would it

 

It's difficult to back off once committed isn't it?

Problem is, all your concentration was on the Mini Cooper, so you weren't thinking about the guy in front!

I'm not criticising btw, how can i? I've done it myself!

 

Just buy a chav flamer kit... when thwe blue rinse bragade flash... hit the a massive flame lol the wont tail u then

 

Also... While out in a ferrari 360 CS one night, over took about 5 cars and not one flashed, also while sitting at a set of traffic lights and when the lights went green i forgot to put my foot on the brake to engage first gear and was sitting there thinkin the car was bust for about 30 secs and again noone dared flash