Death by V X R
21 December 2006, 07:45 PM
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The young vvxr driver told me that the only reason he chased me because he thought my car was a sti,when its actualy only done up like one.How do you gunuine sti owners think you would have done againsed the vxr, remember it was a 1-2mile up hill climb daul carrige way.
21 December 2006, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ****-sok
The young vvxr driver told me that the only reason he chased me because he thought my car was a sti,when its actualy only done up like one.How do you gunuine sti owners think you would have done againsed the vxr, remember it was a 1-2mile up hill climb daul carrige way.
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21 December 2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
It's quite frightening really, that a person of a severely limited amount of braincells ( deduced by your total lack of respect to the Queens' English) is in command of approx 200 BHP on the public highway.
11000 posts, think you need to get out a bit more m8
21 December 2006, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-sok
11000 posts, think you need to get out a bit more m8
21 December 2006, 09:37 PM
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[QUOTE=Evez]I have the same car mate, with the sort of mods you are talking about.
About £1200 fitted, gives you 235BHP at the wheels and a torque curve to keep you very happy indeed.
Puts the car in a different league to the standard set up for not much money. Thats all new by the way cheaper with second hand bargains.
Thanks Evez, what sort of power does the standard car put out at the wheels?
About £1200 fitted, gives you 235BHP at the wheels and a torque curve to keep you very happy indeed.
Puts the car in a different league to the standard set up for not much money. Thats all new by the way cheaper with second hand bargains.Thanks Evez, what sort of power does the standard car put out at the wheels?
21 December 2006, 09:52 PM
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ive got both, a vectra GSi and a scooby, and i can say the vectra is faster than uk standard wrx's...maybe not off the line but once rolling it goes fairly well...but my scoob is tuned and the veccy cant really keep up
21 December 2006, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WRXshaneWRX
ive got both, a vectra GSi and a scooby, and i can say the vectra is faster than uk standard wrx's...maybe not off the line but once rolling it goes fairly well...but my scoob is tuned and the veccy cant really keep up
The vectra gsi is nice car
21 December 2006, 10:23 PM
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Nothing worse than being beat.
I’ve got a 2002 wax but mods should be the same. So far running 316BHP, all that i've fitted is a full s/s exhaust with sports cat an up pipe, a k&n cold air intake, vf34 turbo and a ecutek remap. It cost about £2500 in total, but did some work myself. It drives so much better than before and should keep up or beat a most things on the road, just need to improve the road holding now or slow down.
I’ve got a 2002 wax but mods should be the same. So far running 316BHP, all that i've fitted is a full s/s exhaust with sports cat an up pipe, a k&n cold air intake, vf34 turbo and a ecutek remap. It cost about £2500 in total, but did some work myself. It drives so much better than before and should keep up or beat a most things on the road, just need to improve the road holding now or slow down.
21 December 2006, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thomo8568
Nothing worse than being beat.
I’ve got a 2002 wax but mods should be the same. So far running 316BHP, all that i've fitted is a full s/s exhaust with sports cat an up pipe, a k&n cold air intake, vf34 turbo and a ecutek remap. It cost about £2500 in total, but did some work myself. It drives so much better than before and should keep up or beat a most things on the road, just need to improve the road holding now or slow down.
I’ve got a 2002 wax but mods should be the same. So far running 316BHP, all that i've fitted is a full s/s exhaust with sports cat an up pipe, a k&n cold air intake, vf34 turbo and a ecutek remap. It cost about £2500 in total, but did some work myself. It drives so much better than before and should keep up or beat a most things on the road, just need to improve the road holding now or slow down.
316 bhp,thats a big increase on standard
21 December 2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-sok
Came out a local garage and noticed a nice blue vectra sittin by the pumps,jumped in my (standard) 04 wrx and headed off.Next thing i see is the vectra in my rear view,tight to my bumper.Right i thought "lets see what you got fella" pulled a couple of safe high speed overtakes,but the rep mobile was still with me,as we pushed on up the steep dual lane mountain road the vectra pulled out from behind me and woosh he was gone 
He pulled in at a laybay on the top of the mountain road,so i decided to pull over a see what he had.Turns out it was a feckin remapped V X R ,the grining driver tells me it was 260 bhp before the remap.I had absolutly no hope of outrunning that thing.This dual with the fast vectra has got me a little hungry for more power,and this is why i am writing this post.My 04 wrx currently only has a 3'' cat back s.s system(on car when i got,so don't know the make) and a bailey d.v fitted,i am considering a remap and the complete turbo back decat system in the newyear,what power would these mods give me,and more importantly would i be fit for a feckin vxr vectra. cheers simon N.Ireland
He pulled in at a laybay on the top of the mountain road,so i decided to pull over a see what he had.Turns out it was a feckin remapped V X R ,the grining driver tells me it was 260 bhp before the remap.I had absolutly no hope of outrunning that thing.This dual with the fast vectra has got me a little hungry for more power,and this is why i am writing this post.My 04 wrx currently only has a 3'' cat back s.s system(on car when i got,so don't know the make) and a bailey d.v fitted,i am considering a remap and the complete turbo back decat system in the newyear,what power would these mods give me,and more importantly would i be fit for a feckin vxr vectra. cheers simon N.Irelandget rid off the bailey dv 2 mate they just sound nice get the standard dv back on it wi a hks greenie mushroom and it will sound just as nice with out the lose of power
21 December 2006, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-sok
Could somone please give me an estimate of what power to expect from euctek remap& full decat system,for my car please.This gave me 283bhp and 278lbft
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21 December 2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by codie247
Hi Mate, I had a MY04 WRX wagon with a full decat (inc up pipe), Green panel filter and samco intercooler hoses, had an ecutek remap done at Powerstation.
This gave me 283bhp and 278lbft .
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This gave me 283bhp and 278lbft
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22 December 2006, 12:21 AM
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For me :
273bhp on an 01 WRX
- decat centre pipe only - £150
-Ecutek3 remap - £580
Dramatic improvment !
Although actually I think the most worthwhile thing I've done with my car is to upgrade the suspension - it was too soft as std ! Prodrive springs inc geometry, by dealer £450, Whiteline Anti rollbar and droplinks, £130.
Andy Mc
273bhp on an 01 WRX
- decat centre pipe only - £150
-Ecutek3 remap - £580
Dramatic improvment !
Although actually I think the most worthwhile thing I've done with my car is to upgrade the suspension - it was too soft as std ! Prodrive springs inc geometry, by dealer £450, Whiteline Anti rollbar and droplinks, £130.
Andy Mc
22 December 2006, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
For me :
273bhp on an 01 WRX
- decat centre pipe only - £150
-Ecutek3 remap - £580
Dramatic improvment !
Although actually I think the most worthwhile thing I've done with my car is to upgrade the suspension - it was too soft as std ! Prodrive springs inc geometry, by dealer £450, Whiteline Anti rollbar and droplinks, £130.
Andy Mc
273bhp on an 01 WRX
- decat centre pipe only - £150
-Ecutek3 remap - £580
Dramatic improvment !
Although actually I think the most worthwhile thing I've done with my car is to upgrade the suspension - it was too soft as std ! Prodrive springs inc geometry, by dealer £450, Whiteline Anti rollbar and droplinks, £130.
Andy Mc
sound advice andy,was thinking about the prodrive spings to improve the look of the car
22 December 2006, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Id suggest a V6 Omega Bob. Im becoming a bit of a Vauxhall buff as Im looking for a car for the Scumball 3000.
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22 December 2006, 12:42 AM
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Ive seen several half decent sub 100k Omega V6s for about £500 too. Our budget/limit is £500 and Im confident that I can get a decent car thatll take four days of thrapping for under that.
22 December 2006, 12:42 AM
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Standard thing for exhaust, map etc on a WRX is about 280bhp, a bit less on some of the more conservative rollers, this is flywheel hp - virtually no-one quotes wheel hp in this country. I've seen standard WRX's on similar rollers give anywhere from about 205 to 230 ish bhp, but the bigger benefit is extending the useful power band up and down the rev range.
However, the Vectra probably has 300bhp or so with a remap, and lower transmission losses than a 4wd car. You won't get over 300bhp without changing the turbo. There's a real risk you won't match the torque of a mildly modified Vectra VXR and keep your existing WRX gearbox intact.
Say what you like about the Vectra, it's a 2.8 Litre turbo lump, which equals lots of torque and potential to get very decent power. I'd expect a chipped Vectra to be a comfortable match for an STi PPP in a straight line once rolling. And EVO mag pitched the Vectra against Mitsi Evo & scoob and were really rather surprised about how close it kept to them across "the twistys" in Wales.
Realistically, if you want to blow away chipped Vectra VXRs in high speed straight line work, you need to spend serious money on modifying a WRX, or start with a faster car to begin with.
Having said that, put a sports cat downpipe, change your up-pipe, maybe port your headers and fir a few Samco hoses and an ECUTEK remap, you might not be in a position to beat him, but your car will be a lot more fun than it is now. If you want to look after the gearbox but go a bit faster, consider an uprated top mount intercooler and hybrid td04 turbo, for perhaps 320bhp/320lbft. However, exhaust, ported headers, TMIC, hybrid td04 turbo, hoses, remap will probably cost in the £2.5k region or so. Bigger turbos and you're best to expect a gearbox and clutch change at some stage, ideally a front mount intercooler, so to go for 350bhp+ with daily driver safety levels, with new engine/gearbox parts fitted by a specialist, think £5k+. You might do it well for less, but don't rely on it.
However, the Vectra probably has 300bhp or so with a remap, and lower transmission losses than a 4wd car. You won't get over 300bhp without changing the turbo. There's a real risk you won't match the torque of a mildly modified Vectra VXR and keep your existing WRX gearbox intact.
Say what you like about the Vectra, it's a 2.8 Litre turbo lump, which equals lots of torque and potential to get very decent power. I'd expect a chipped Vectra to be a comfortable match for an STi PPP in a straight line once rolling. And EVO mag pitched the Vectra against Mitsi Evo & scoob and were really rather surprised about how close it kept to them across "the twistys" in Wales.
Realistically, if you want to blow away chipped Vectra VXRs in high speed straight line work, you need to spend serious money on modifying a WRX, or start with a faster car to begin with.
Having said that, put a sports cat downpipe, change your up-pipe, maybe port your headers and fir a few Samco hoses and an ECUTEK remap, you might not be in a position to beat him, but your car will be a lot more fun than it is now. If you want to look after the gearbox but go a bit faster, consider an uprated top mount intercooler and hybrid td04 turbo, for perhaps 320bhp/320lbft. However, exhaust, ported headers, TMIC, hybrid td04 turbo, hoses, remap will probably cost in the £2.5k region or so. Bigger turbos and you're best to expect a gearbox and clutch change at some stage, ideally a front mount intercooler, so to go for 350bhp+ with daily driver safety levels, with new engine/gearbox parts fitted by a specialist, think £5k+. You might do it well for less, but don't rely on it.
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Originally Posted by wrx-sok
hades thanks for your advice,i think if i had 260-280 hp i will be happy.If that doesn't please me i would rather upgrade to a sti prodrive.
if you are after more power the JDM STI is a better platform for modding than a uk spec
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Originally Posted by Evez
thomo8568 what is it making at the wheels ? I am interested in the gains from the bigger turbo and K&n cold air intake.
22 December 2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pippyrips
just remember that with AWD you loose power in the transmission so even with 260-280 you will probably still loose against a VXR.
if you are after more power the JDM STI is a better platform for modding than a uk spec
if you are after more power the JDM STI is a better platform for modding than a uk spec
AWD tranmission losses are always overstated on this site.
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The single worst and most annoying trait about the Vectra, is that it tries to be all things to all men, a repmobile, family wagon, fast car etc.
And to be completely honest, it doesn't do a bad job
Taking that into account, it's even worse that that 'rally-bred' Scoob got torn a new one...
I just think Subaru have lost the ball slightly on this one, I mean is it just me who remembers when 215bhp was a lot..? Nowadays that's the norm - even STI's are that well respected anymore.
And to be completely honest, it doesn't do a bad job
Taking that into account, it's even worse that that 'rally-bred' Scoob got torn a new one...
I just think Subaru have lost the ball slightly on this one, I mean is it just me who remembers when 215bhp was a lot..? Nowadays that's the norm - even STI's are that well respected anymore.
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Originally Posted by Kuro
The single worst and most annoying trait about the Vectra, is that it tries to be all things to all men, a repmobile, family wagon, fast car etc.
And to be completely honest, it doesn't do a bad job
Taking that into account, it's even worse that that 'rally-bred' Scoob got torn a new one...
I just think Subaru have lost the ball slightly on this one, I mean is it just me who remembers when 215bhp was a lot..? Nowadays that's the norm - even STI's are that well respected anymore.
And to be completely honest, it doesn't do a bad job
Taking that into account, it's even worse that that 'rally-bred' Scoob got torn a new one...
I just think Subaru have lost the ball slightly on this one, I mean is it just me who remembers when 215bhp was a lot..? Nowadays that's the norm - even STI's are that well respected anymore.
22 December 2006, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-sok
The young vvxr driver told me that the only reason he chased me because he thought my car was a sti,when its actualy only done up like one.How do you gunuine sti owners think you would have done againsed the vxr, remember it was a 1-2mile up hill climb daul carrige way.