I really like the look of them.

They are fast.... but not that fast

 

The young vvxr driver told me that the only reason he chased me because he thought my car was a sti,when its actualy only done up like one.How do you gunuine sti owners think you would have done againsed the vxr, remember it was a 1-2mile up hill climb daul carrige way.

 

It's quite frightening really, that a person of a severely limited amount of braincells ( deduced by your total lack of respect to the Queens' English) is in command of approx 200 BHP on the public highway.

 

11000 posts, think you need to get out a bit more m8

 

I think he needs to get more serious about his posting, and you need to spend more time practising reading and writing.

 

[QUOTE=Evez]I have the same car mate, with the sort of mods you are talking about.
About £1200 fitted, gives you 235BHP at the wheels and a torque curve to keep you very happy indeed. Puts the car in a different league to the standard set up for not much money. Thats all new by the way cheaper with second hand bargains.

Thanks Evez, what sort of power does the standard car put out at the wheels?

 

ive got both, a vectra GSi and a scooby, and i can say the vectra is faster than uk standard wrx's...maybe not off the line but once rolling it goes fairly well...but my scoob is tuned and the veccy cant really keep up

 

The vectra gsi is nice car

 

Nothing worse than being beat.

I’ve got a 2002 wax but mods should be the same. So far running 316BHP, all that i've fitted is a full s/s exhaust with sports cat an up pipe, a k&n cold air intake, vf34 turbo and a ecutek remap. It cost about £2500 in total, but did some work myself. It drives so much better than before and should keep up or beat a most things on the road, just need to improve the road holding now or slow down.

 

316 bhp,thats a big increase on standard

 

get rid off the bailey dv 2 mate they just sound nice get the standard dv back on it wi a hks greenie mushroom and it will sound just as nice with out the lose of power

 

Hi Mate, I had a MY04 WRX wagon with a full decat (inc up pipe), Green panel filter and samco intercooler hoses, had an ecutek remap done at Powerstation.
This gave me 283bhp and 278lbft .

Lee

 

Bubba-po......+ 50,000 posts!!!

Holy Guacamoly!!!

 

283 bhp would be nice,any idea of how much your upgrades cost in total?

 

from scratch probably cost near £1100 in all, this is including the fitting of the exhaust and remap.

Lee

 

For me :

273bhp on an 01 WRX

- decat centre pipe only - £150
-Ecutek3 remap - £580

Dramatic improvment !

Although actually I think the most worthwhile thing I've done with my car is to upgrade the suspension - it was too soft as std ! Prodrive springs inc geometry, by dealer £450, Whiteline Anti rollbar and droplinks, £130.

Andy Mc

 

sound advice andy,was thinking about the prodrive spings to improve the look of the car

 

I'm going to buy a Vauxhall Cavalier to run until I get another scoob.

 

Id suggest a V6 Omega Bob. Im becoming a bit of a Vauxhall buff as Im looking for a car for the Scumball 3000.

Simon

 

I've seen a 2.0 16v Cav with a new engine for under £500. I suspect the new engine is because the cambelt tensioner (suspect on the 95) has popped.

 

Ive seen several half decent sub 100k Omega V6s for about £500 too. Our budget/limit is £500 and Im confident that I can get a decent car thatll take four days of thrapping for under that.

 

Standard thing for exhaust, map etc on a WRX is about 280bhp, a bit less on some of the more conservative rollers, this is flywheel hp - virtually no-one quotes wheel hp in this country. I've seen standard WRX's on similar rollers give anywhere from about 205 to 230 ish bhp, but the bigger benefit is extending the useful power band up and down the rev range.

However, the Vectra probably has 300bhp or so with a remap, and lower transmission losses than a 4wd car. You won't get over 300bhp without changing the turbo. There's a real risk you won't match the torque of a mildly modified Vectra VXR and keep your existing WRX gearbox intact.

Say what you like about the Vectra, it's a 2.8 Litre turbo lump, which equals lots of torque and potential to get very decent power. I'd expect a chipped Vectra to be a comfortable match for an STi PPP in a straight line once rolling. And EVO mag pitched the Vectra against Mitsi Evo & scoob and were really rather surprised about how close it kept to them across "the twistys" in Wales.

Realistically, if you want to blow away chipped Vectra VXRs in high speed straight line work, you need to spend serious money on modifying a WRX, or start with a faster car to begin with.

Having said that, put a sports cat downpipe, change your up-pipe, maybe port your headers and fir a few Samco hoses and an ECUTEK remap, you might not be in a position to beat him, but your car will be a lot more fun than it is now. If you want to look after the gearbox but go a bit faster, consider an uprated top mount intercooler and hybrid td04 turbo, for perhaps 320bhp/320lbft. However, exhaust, ported headers, TMIC, hybrid td04 turbo, hoses, remap will probably cost in the £2.5k region or so. Bigger turbos and you're best to expect a gearbox and clutch change at some stage, ideally a front mount intercooler, so to go for 350bhp+ with daily driver safety levels, with new engine/gearbox parts fitted by a specialist, think £5k+. You might do it well for less, but don't rely on it.

 

hades thanks for your advice,i think if i had 260-280 hp i will be happy.If that doesn't please me i would rather upgrade to a sti prodrive.

 

just remember that with AWD you loose power in the transmission so even with 260-280 you will probably still loose against a VXR.
if you are after more power the JDM STI is a better platform for modding than a uk spec

 

Think its making about 280BHP at the wheels. Can up it up to 350BHP at the fly by fitting front mount I/C and some sti injectors aswell. But think that’s the max for the wrx engine.

 

You lose power in the transmission in all cars.

AWD tranmission losses are always overstated on this site.

 

Massively exaggerated.

 

The single worst and most annoying trait about the Vectra, is that it tries to be all things to all men, a repmobile, family wagon, fast car etc.

And to be completely honest, it doesn't do a bad job

Taking that into account, it's even worse that that 'rally-bred' Scoob got torn a new one...

I just think Subaru have lost the ball slightly on this one, I mean is it just me who remembers when 215bhp was a lot..? Nowadays that's the norm - even STI's are that well respected anymore.

 

No more mixed metaphors please or we'll all be up the creek without a leg to stand on

 

hi i traded my sti in for a astra vxr and it would keep up with my old scooby just its not got that kick about it.but for just over £2k you can get 340bhp out of the vxr and thats what im thinking of doing so i will let you ppl know what its like then.