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Old 01 January 2007, 01:46 PM
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agreed, just like you can't programme it completely out of humans either. you just have to take all the precautions you can to limit the chances of the worst case scenario happening.
Humans are worse - don't get me started on them!!
Old 01 January 2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Humans are worse - don't get me started on them!!
Never a truer word spoken in jest!
Old 01 January 2007, 02:00 PM
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She wasn't at her parents house, they were out celebrating new year, and when they returned, Ellie asked if she could stay where she was, Ellie was staying at her grandmothers house who she shared with her aunt & uncle

She was found in the living room, they think it may have been the fireworks that set Reuben (the dog) off

Old 01 January 2007, 02:21 PM
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crisPduck.
what a ****in *** .
****** with comments like that should be kicked of the site.
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Old 01 January 2007, 02:22 PM
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Terrible tragedy but seeing as since 1991 its been illegal to breed / own / look at a pit bull then you have to ask what the f@ckwit of an owner was doing with it in the first place??
I feel so sorry for the parents. It is terrible what has happened but well you do chuffing wonder...
Old 01 January 2007, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
Terrible tragedy but seeing as since 1991 its been illegal to breed / own / look at a pit bull then you have to ask what the f@ckwit of an owner was doing with it in the first place??
I feel so sorry for the parents. It is terrible what has happened but well you do chuffing wonder...
I thought that only applied to 'American' pitbulls? It makes me wonder how many more of these child deaths we have to hear about before our useless government takes some action to outlaw these dangerous breeds.
Old 01 January 2007, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
I thought that only applied to 'American' pitbulls? It makes me wonder how many more of these child deaths we have to hear about before our useless government takes some action to outlaw these dangerous breeds.
This might help... BBC NEWS | England | Merseyside | Girl killed by pit bull terrier

Dog was covered by dangerous dogs act... It was outlawed... Shouldnt have existed etc...
Old 01 January 2007, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
My girlfriend has a dog and I, to put it bluntly, f()ing hate him! He's not agressive or anything like that but he's just a w@nker.
Kenny that line right there has just cracked me right up lol, im lying ill in bed with a hangover from last night, and ive just burst out laughng when i read what you wrote there, lol nice one.
Old 01 January 2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
....but potentially the dog did the world a favour
I think that last sentence is very sick, I dont know whether this is the fault of the owners, the dogs etc but I do know that we hear too many incidents of killings of children by these animals and its very sad.

Its even more depressing that people can make statements like that about the death of a 5 year old girl especially with the grinning face and thumbs up. It really turns my stomach.
Old 01 January 2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
Terrible tragedy but seeing as since 1991 its been illegal to breed / own / look at a pit bull then you have to ask what the f@ckwit of an owner was doing with it in the first place??
I feel so sorry for the parents. It is terrible what has happened but well you do chuffing wonder...
Abs, do you know the area?

I know it is closer to you than me, but im not overly familiar with that part of eccleston

Yep agree feel sorry for the parents
Old 01 January 2007, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
Obviously not the dogs fault, they're not dangerous, wouldn't hurt a fly etc...

BBC NEWS | England | Merseyside | Girl killed by pit bull terrier
Don't tar every "Hard dog" with the same brush. I own a Staffie, so that must make me a chav or a Pikey who takes his dog to dog fights?

All Black people must be thieves to you
All Muslims must be Terrorists
All Scooby drivers must be Chavs.

An agressive dog is a badly trained or untrained dog. Blame the owner not the animal.
Old 01 January 2007, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Normandy,

Labradors are renowned for their friendly behaviour, especially towards children.

Les
It's already been pointed out that thats not quite right. However, I was trying to highlight the irony in the fact that the last time a dog thread involved a child being mauled (by a Rottweiler or two), the Scoobynet Crufts brigade insisted that you were more likely to be attacked by Labs, Retrievers etc.

Lo and behold another kid dead, and yet again it's one of those 'devil dogs' that are perfectly safe and friendly.

Ah well, keep the blinkers on, maybe a nice Staffy/Doberman/Rottie etc will rip them off for you one day.



By the way, I too have owned a Labrador that was an excellent dog which unfortunately had a strange tendency to bite anybody who knelt down, weird. Otherwise friendly dog goes mental for it's own reasons, who'd have thunk it ?
Old 01 January 2007, 03:37 PM
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I own a Staffie, so that must make me a chav or a Pikey who takes his dog to dog fights
Check!
All Black people must be thieves to you
Check!
All Muslims must be Terrorists
Check!
All Scooby drivers must be Chavs
Check!
Old 01 January 2007, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landing
An excellent dog which unfortunately had a strange tendency to bite anybody who knelt down, weird.
Maybe it was an atheist and in typical Scoobynet fashion was going in feet (or in this case teeth) first!


A sad story to start the New Year. Luckily our labrador is very gentle with our baby but we always remain vigilant just in case.

Rannoch
Old 01 January 2007, 03:39 PM
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Im sick of people ripping on staffies ive had mine for eleven years and hes never once snapped at a human, hes been around children all his life.

AND lets be honest here we are talking pit bulls not staffies, staffies by nature are a friendly dog, its all the other so called acceptable dogs that try to have a go at my dog.
Old 01 January 2007, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landing
And we're still waiting for the kid being killed by Labs or Retrievers. Aren't they supposed to be more dangerous ?

Ive yet to see one scum or chav own a labrador or retriver....
Old 01 January 2007, 03:41 PM
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I own a Staffie, so that must make me a chav or a Pikey who takes his dog to dog fights

Check!

Quote:
All Black people must be thieves to you

Check!

Quote:
All Muslims must be Terrorists

Check!

Quote:
All Scooby drivers must be Chavs

Check!

I just knew someone would do that.
Old 01 January 2007, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonno_johnson
Im sick of people ripping on staffies ive had mine for eleven years and hes never once snapped at a human, hes been around children all his life.

AND lets be honest here we are talking pit bulls not staffies, staffies by nature are a friendly dog, its all the other so called acceptable dogs that try to have a go at my dog.
Old 01 January 2007, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonno_johnson
Im sick of people ripping on staffies
How strange I'm sick of Staffies ripping people.

And I'm not so sure that a dog has to be owned by a Chav for it to be a mental case. Didn't Princess Annes (or some other 'Royal') Dog have a chomp of someone a while ago?
Old 01 January 2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonno_johnson
Im sick of people ripping on staffies ive had mine for eleven years and hes never once snapped at a human, hes been around children all his life.

AND lets be honest here we are talking pit bulls not staffies, staffies by nature are a friendly dog, its all the other so called acceptable dogs that try to have a go at my dog.
Totally agree with you. Staffies are regarded as good family dogs. They wouldn't get that reputation if they were constantly ripping small children to death.

Every dog can be aggressive. Whether it be a Staffie, Rotty, or Labrador. Training is the key to any dogs behavior. People read or hear about some d1ckhead who's badly trained their dog, whose then gone on to bite a young child. The whole breed then gets a bad reputation.
Old 01 January 2007, 03:50 PM
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Happy 2007 to you Jonno - hope the hangover is improving. By all accounts I wasn't too bad this morning myself

She was found in the living room, they think it may have been the fireworks that set Reuben (the dog) off
If this is the case it supports my argument. The dog got a fright/scare from the fireworks and acted instinctively. You cannot legislate for everything when dealing with something that is alive with feelings and emotions. It could have been a very well trained dog for all we know but with something to scare it like that it just reverted to its natural programming which is to be aggressive.

I was talking to my partner about this and she is a big dog lover and also a dog warden. She says she gets a lot of calls about people that are letting their 'pit bull' run around the park and 99/100 it's a Staffie doing no wrong. Seems they are quite a misunderstood breed that are actually quite friendly towards humans depsite looking pretty mean and hard.
Old 01 January 2007, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
These animals are not stupid.
No the animals are dangerous, it's their owners that are generally stupid.

Chip
Old 01 January 2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
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You certainly are...

Staffies on the whole are a gorgeous breed that are loyal and loving. It's the unfortunate few that are mis-treated by humans that know no better than to attack.
Old 01 January 2007, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gatecrasher3
You certainly are...

Staffies on the whole are a gorgeous breed that are loyal and loving. It's the unfortunate few that are mis-treated by humans that know no better than to attack.
That's a very good point. When my next door neighbours Staffie is approaching my children, I'll take the time to reflect on whether it's worth a gamble on the dog having been mistreated in the past.

Wonder what the odds are?

On second thoughts, I'll scoop my kids up and kick the fcucker in the chops if it comes within range.
Old 01 January 2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
This might help... BBC NEWS | England | Merseyside | Girl killed by pit bull terrier

Dog was covered by dangerous dogs act... It was outlawed... Shouldnt have existed etc...

So the grandparents should therefore be held to account!

Chip
Old 01 January 2007, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
So the grandparents should therefore be held to account!

Chip
Or the auntie and uncle as they shared the house with the grandmother, no mention of grandfather
Old 01 January 2007, 04:46 PM
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I stand corrected

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Old 01 January 2007, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
So the grandparents should therefore be held to account!

Chip
They should certainly be arrested and charged with breaking the law as under the dangerous dogs act 1991, yes of course and why not?
They chose to own a dog banned under said act from the UK due its tendancy to maul people. Oi loikes armadillos...
Old 01 January 2007, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Look at it this way, any idiot who keeps an aggressive animal in the presence of a child is probably either a pikey or a chav
So there was more than a good chance that any offspring of same would grow up to be a pikey or a chav. Unfair on the child I know, but potentially the dog did the world a favour
Harsh but fair.
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Originally Posted by jods
Harsh but fair.
Got a 5 year old child have you?


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