davyboy

I've actually been reading up a bit and it looks as if my "they are all killers" was incorrect.

Jdub

Tragic to hear about a little girl being killed,

However my thoughts are not with the family, what a bunch of ****wits to let a little girl stay with that sort of animal, why do people get these sorts of animals, they are just accidents waiting to happen, not only should the animal be destroyed the owners should be put away for manslauter.

I have the same feelings about people with all these sorts of dogs ie roti's,pitbulls,german sheppards, dobermans etc... they are killing machines, why unless you wanted one for a guard dog to patrol a mansion woukld you get one. ****ing idiots.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

So, all dogs are wonderful and can only be influenced by humans, like the earlier poster said about the dog being a w4nker I dont think its true, some dogs just arent very nice or are aggressive despite being treated well.

Almost all the threads on here about dogs applaud their little characters like its their own work, aww, the minute a dog rips a kids face off its simply down to the owners, to a greater extent it is but when you credit dogs with all these qualities in one thread it seems strange that any unpleasant aspect is the owners fault, so I put it to you that some dogs, like some people are just born c*nts.

jods

Irrelevant.

Merely making a point that I thought the original poster was being harsh in suggesting that the kid would have grown up to be a chav / pikey although it was, on balance, probably quite insiteful. Especially if, as it appears to be, the animal was illegal and should either not have been in existence or should have been muzzled 24/7 (especially in company of children)

Seems to me a bit of a sweeping (harsh, some may say UN PC) generalisation to say that if you are the spawn of chavs you'll be a chav. But lets be fair - it is true in 99% of cases.

As my old dad used to say to me.

"Son - You can polish a rough diamond, but you can't polish a dog turd"

little-ginge

What a horrific tragedy. Apparently it was the girls uncles dog. He had been warned in May by the local council about the animal as it had attacked another dog.

Obviously they thought it would be okay to have it aorund the child as the girl knew it - just goes to show that once these dogs have attacked, it'll happen again

David Lock

Well your dad certainly had a nice turn of phrase

Matteeboy

I'm shocked to the core.

This comment and others supporting it need locking up.

A poor little girl got horribly killed - Yes I know you're trying to be funny but that's not at all amusing.

Unbalanced people like you are what is screwing up society a hundred times more than chavs.

Bubba po

Agreed.

little-ginge

Also agreed.

jods

What makes you think he was trying to be funny ?
If he WERE trying to be funny that would be sick.

IMHO he is merely being totally un-emotional about it (which you may not like, but it is that kind of thinking that is required by Drs, Medics, Judges, Magistrates oh - and traffic cops - every day of the year)

Matteeboy

I see, silly me.
Just like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Polpot, etc.

Lets not drag the name of respected professions through the muck by suggesting they apply a similar frame of thinking.

They'd lose their jobs instantly.

Bubba po

People aren't vermin, jods, whatever you would like to believe. Only people who treat others like vermin deserve that epithet.

miss*scoobygav555*

what a horrible start to the year for this family!!..

what a pretty little girl she was..

AudiLover

Oh really. Arent bush and blair unemotional when they ship tons of automatic rifles to poor, war struck african nations to line their pockets?

*Sonic*

Them two are the exception, that pair should be thrown to a group of pitbulls

moneys

iTrader: (5)

Firstly i would just like to say how sorry i am for the family because no mateer who they are they have lost there 5 year old daughter and i wouldn,t wish that upon anybody.

My other point though is that pit bulls are being brought into this country under a different breed. The breed they are brought in by are called Irish Staffordshire Bull Terriers, now there is no such breed as this and people have simply just started calling them this to get them into the country. You can tell the difference from a pure bred staffie to a irish one as the irish one is taller and leaner with a longer snout. Pit bulls are banned in this country as they are bred for killing basically, they are used in dog fighting pits to this day both in this country and others. Staffs where originally bred for the sport of bull baiting many centurys ago and it is well noted that back in the day of the bull bating that when the fight was over the owners of the dogs would go in and split the dogs up and at no time did the dogs ever attack the handlers. Staffs are well known for there love and effection that they show towards there owners and are especially known for being excellent with children (they are known as the nanny dog in the dog community). I have a staff and my wife is due to give birth with our first baby in march and at no point am i planning on getting rid of my dog, but i am also a going to be a responsible parent and would never ever leave my dog or any dog for that matter alone with my baby for 2 seconds or 2 hours.

Any dog can be a killer like any human can be but its all to do with how you are brought up and also how you are treated now that decides your path in life.

air.mech23

Dogs are wild animals which are only domesticated to a certain level by us. Why does it always surprise people when they attack? And why leave a pitbull with a 5 year old???

jods

I suppose there is a scintilla of voracity to your comment above - However, PLEASE be honest with yourselves. Have you REALLY NEVER looked at someone and thought that the world would not be improved if they added to the population ? I know I have. Jade Goody springs to mind.

Lee247

This is so tragic. What a lovely little girl

Nido

Not that I have anything against these dogs, but below are a couple of interesting points from a report looking at dog attacks in the US and Canada. It's called the "Clifton" report.

Food for thought.

dpb

WHERES ITS MUZZLE -NO SYMPATHY.

Gav

No sympathy for the innocent 5 year old child that got mauled to death???

*Sonic*

the grandmother was only 46 !! she shares the house with her son and daughter in law, it doesnt say whose the dog was, and the local reports are that it was a pit bull like dog, and the police are now checking to see if any offence has been comitted under the dangerous dogs act

The dog was shot at the scene, as it wasnt deemed safe to contain it

SiDHEaD

People always blame the owners, but if the dog has never attempted to chew the face off a child how would they have been told that they shouldn't do it. No matter how "obedient" they are. They may just decide it might be fun, and with a powerful/dangerous dog the result is much more of a problem than if it's one of those piece of shat little dogs.

CrisPDuk

I wasn't trying to be funny, I was making a point. If this girl was a 13 year old who'd nicked a car and died crashing it, the whole of scoobynet would be saying good riddance.

I was just saying that as she was growing up in a family where:

a/ An illegal dog is allowed to roam free in the presence of children
c/ Children are roaming the house at 4:30 in the morning, and
b/ They think setting fireworks of at 4:30 in the morning is OK

There would have been a distinct likelyhood of her growing up to be a thief, a junkie, pregnant at 15, etc.

Personally, I find it more shocking that the adults in this situation have been allowed to keep animals, or even breed.

The poor child dying is merely an inevitable consequence of the above situation Sad, yes. Shocking, no.

CrisPDuk

I don't see the point of your post, but I have a five year old niece actually

The difference is neither I nor my sister (her mother) would ever dream of leaving her alone in the presence of any dog, never mind a big & potentially savage one

Trout

iTrader: (1)

The bottom line is that you don't know. You stepped up as judge and jury with only your subjective prejudice to support you.

At the end of the day the day her family loved her in the only way they knew and the circumstances, yet to be investigated, caused her to lose her life.

I would never wish this on anyone no matter what resources, or lack of, they have available to them.

Jonno_johnson

Here is a very intresting flash movie about these dogs which contains some bite data aswell, towards the end of the movie.

the pit bull problem (what is man without the beasts?) - flash

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

Good ol Scoobynet and people who know exactly what happened without knowing the full facts.

There is no reason to own one of these types of dogs other than to boost the failed ego of the owner.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

I suppose even with the best will in the world we are talking about a dog and a five year old, however careful the family were kids and dogs are willful and clever in a stupid way (i.e. complex thought to do something they havent thought about), so the child may have escaped into the dogs area. Its tragic whatever section of society they come from, a dog like that should not be kept as a family pet, people like that need educating and if that doesnt work precluding from keeping such animals.

The Pit Bull has been demonized, its just a dog at the end of the day and it is capable of just being a normal dog, its just too much of a risk to keep something so powerful, especially if some of the owners arent that bright, Its like Jet Ski's, good fun but dangerous in the wrong hands.

Nobody needs a Pit Bull terrier, plenty of other dogs and yes other breeds can kill and main but not so many that effectively.

I have only ever been bitten by a Westie and a Chihuahua, neither of which could have killed me.