Has Shilpa on BB been subjected to racial abuse ?
19 January 2007, 05:17 PM
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There was a government research paper produced last year that remains unpublished probably because of the potential ramifications.
It demonstrated that conviction rates were much higher in Asian and Black youths HOWEVER and this is the big one, the rate of offending, i.e. the propensity to commit a crime but not get caught or convicted was actually LOWER in these groups.
The implication of this of course is that the criminal justice institutions are racially biased, or that white criminals are better at getting away with it.
It demonstrated that conviction rates were much higher in Asian and Black youths HOWEVER and this is the big one, the rate of offending, i.e. the propensity to commit a crime but not get caught or convicted was actually LOWER in these groups.
The implication of this of course is that the criminal justice institutions are racially biased, or that white criminals are better at getting away with it.
19 January 2007, 06:30 PM
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There was a government research paper produced last year that remains unpublished probably because of the potential ramifications.
It demonstrated that conviction rates were much higher in Asian and Black youths HOWEVER and this is the big one, the rate of offending, i.e. the propensity to commit a crime but not get caught or convicted was actually LOWER in these groups.
The implication of this of course is that the criminal justice institutions are racially biased, or that white criminals are better at getting away with it.
It demonstrated that conviction rates were much higher in Asian and Black youths HOWEVER and this is the big one, the rate of offending, i.e. the propensity to commit a crime but not get caught or convicted was actually LOWER in these groups.
The implication of this of course is that the criminal justice institutions are racially biased, or that white criminals are better at getting away with it.
19 January 2007, 06:33 PM
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19 January 2007, 06:42 PM
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Could it be the same here, shock, horror!
19 January 2007, 07:12 PM
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its interesting to see what the indian papers make of it all...
the indian express struck a sceptical note saying that there was "no need for concerted national outrage over what undoubtedly seem to be racist jibes against an indian actor participating in a british reality tv programme".
"...the tv programme in question is designed to bring out the worst in participants. it can be race, it can be class, it can be gender, it can be any marker, real or perceived..," the newspaper said in an editorial.
the paper also sounded a note of caution against overreaction by saying that "indian responses should also factor in our own record on prejudice".
"if racism is a fact in many interactions in british society, prejudice is a quotidian reality of indian social life".
hindustan times echoed the same sentiment in its editorial.
"however abhorrent these remarks are, shilpa went into this with her eyes wide open. a successful woman like her should have been able to give back as good as he got. we are no strangers to racism. true, we don't want to be at the receiving end. but we are no less racist within the country," it said.
the telegraph also mocked delhi's reaction to the incident.
"if britain's channel 4 is scouting for publicists, it need look no further than delhi's corridors of power", it said.
was it wise for ms shetty to have agreed to take part in the show? bollywood filmmaker mahesh bhatt in mumbai's dna newspaper clearly thinks not.
"why do we go on bended knees and lick their boots?" he asks.
"i believe no one can insult you without your permission. shilpa shetty has paid the price for trying to desperately seek the approval of the west."
"it is pathetic how we can go on bended knees and lick the boots of westerners in an effort to be part of their world."
in its editorial, the newspaper said "shetty has to find the attitude and the chutzpah to face the comments - racially pejorative or just downright b***y - from her 'friends' in the house [because] big brother is all about running the other contestants down in order to get on top."
"and we, as viewers back home, need to understand that since she asked for it by signing on, she needs to deal with it."
delhi's today newspaper reported that the issue had become the top talking points in indian blogs, and shetty was getting a lot of support from "bloggers who are clearly briton and white".
"you may be hard-pressed to recall any of shilpa shetty's films, but today her name is on everybody's lips... indeed we have to clean our own backyards before pointing fingers. that seemed to be the message from indian bloggers," the newspaper said.
So she's not really that famous over there at all.
the indian express struck a sceptical note saying that there was "no need for concerted national outrage over what undoubtedly seem to be racist jibes against an indian actor participating in a british reality tv programme".
"...the tv programme in question is designed to bring out the worst in participants. it can be race, it can be class, it can be gender, it can be any marker, real or perceived..," the newspaper said in an editorial.
the paper also sounded a note of caution against overreaction by saying that "indian responses should also factor in our own record on prejudice".
"if racism is a fact in many interactions in british society, prejudice is a quotidian reality of indian social life".
hindustan times echoed the same sentiment in its editorial.
"however abhorrent these remarks are, shilpa went into this with her eyes wide open. a successful woman like her should have been able to give back as good as he got. we are no strangers to racism. true, we don't want to be at the receiving end. but we are no less racist within the country," it said.
the telegraph also mocked delhi's reaction to the incident.
"if britain's channel 4 is scouting for publicists, it need look no further than delhi's corridors of power", it said.
was it wise for ms shetty to have agreed to take part in the show? bollywood filmmaker mahesh bhatt in mumbai's dna newspaper clearly thinks not.
"why do we go on bended knees and lick their boots?" he asks.
"i believe no one can insult you without your permission. shilpa shetty has paid the price for trying to desperately seek the approval of the west."
"it is pathetic how we can go on bended knees and lick the boots of westerners in an effort to be part of their world."
in its editorial, the newspaper said "shetty has to find the attitude and the chutzpah to face the comments - racially pejorative or just downright b***y - from her 'friends' in the house [because] big brother is all about running the other contestants down in order to get on top."
"and we, as viewers back home, need to understand that since she asked for it by signing on, she needs to deal with it."
delhi's today newspaper reported that the issue had become the top talking points in indian blogs, and shetty was getting a lot of support from "bloggers who are clearly briton and white".
"you may be hard-pressed to recall any of shilpa shetty's films, but today her name is on everybody's lips... indeed we have to clean our own backyards before pointing fingers. that seemed to be the message from indian bloggers," the newspaper said.
you may be hard-pressed to recall any of shilpa shetty's films, but today her name is on everybody's lips...
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19 January 2007, 07:13 PM
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19 January 2007, 07:14 PM
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Seems like a black can be racist and a white cannot. simple and true. Lets change it around a bit and all start to burn straw models of the jacksons in the street and see what the Plod have to say.
19 January 2007, 08:58 PM
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some serious "Kiss ****" going on. BB have set tonight up . Jade and Shilpa have both been told to do a "Damage limitation " exercise.
Still no mention of the Police wanting to discuss Jermains racist remark..
Still no mention of the Police wanting to discuss Jermains racist remark..
19 January 2007, 09:10 PM
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they have clearly told them whats going on outside, and edited things, they are smiling and nice for the cameras now, and did you notice all the buzz words they used just? also jades crying because she thinks that the papers etc may think shes racist. they have clearly told them what the craic is...
19 January 2007, 09:11 PM
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For those of you that want to see racism. Fly to Bombay etc and see how the rich indians treat the poor.
when I lasted stayed there with a friends rich family. I was told off for talking to one of the drivers kids (wanted to know about English cars !) And the kid was told to " F*** Off" by the lady whe where staying with. She said people like us should not talk to these lower casts. I packed and left ,after telling her a few things or two! One of the most racist places I have visited. Thailand been one of the others. Dubai/Saudi been the worst.
when I lasted stayed there with a friends rich family. I was told off for talking to one of the drivers kids (wanted to know about English cars !) And the kid was told to " F*** Off" by the lady whe where staying with. She said people like us should not talk to these lower casts. I packed and left ,after telling her a few things or two! One of the most racist places I have visited. Thailand been one of the others. Dubai/Saudi been the worst.
19 January 2007, 09:12 PM
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19 January 2007, 09:20 PM
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This will turn on itself soon. jermain was as "Racist" as jade. but both are not racist. this "racist " thing is **** up at the moment. NOTHING can be said by anyone white and from the UK anymore in this country. i am too scared to even say "hello" to none white people just in case they come out with some 'claim"
19 January 2007, 09:25 PM
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This will turn on itself soon. jermain was as "Racist" as jade. but both are not racist. this "racist " thing is **** up at the moment. NOTHING can be said by anyone white and from the UK anymore in this country. i am too scared to even say "hello" to none white people just in case they come out with some 'claim"
19 January 2007, 09:30 PM
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What a ******* joke..
By not showing Jade's eviction whether people were outside or not tells me C4 has covered it all up, set it all up and generally is whitewashing (lol) all over it...
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By not showing Jade's eviction whether people were outside or not tells me C4 has covered it all up, set it all up and generally is whitewashing (lol) all over it...
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19 January 2007, 09:32 PM
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Big brother puppets that was all set up should of sent her to the wolves to face the music
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19 January 2007, 09:36 PM
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and an interview with 'Chavina (don't say f*ck or bugger) McCall'
