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Old 19 January 2007, 10:30 PM
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I think they show it bit later on don't they and an interview with 'Chavina (don't say f*ck or bugger) McCall'
Looks like it... just about to start.

I didn't realise.

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Old 19 January 2007, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Seamaster
For those of you that want to see racism. Fly to Bombay etc and see how the rich indians treat the poor.
Is poor a race?
I'm thinking you have no idea of the definition of racism. Is you a whitey?

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Old 19 January 2007, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Looks like it... just about to start.

I didn't realise.

Andy
Was it any good?

When it finally came down to it, I found I couldn't be arsed to watch it.

Anyway where did all those muppets go? I bet they started their own 'special' thread elsewhere....


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Old 19 January 2007, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Was it any good?

When it finally came down to it, I found I couldn't be arsed to watch it.

Anyway where did all those muppets go? I bet they started their own 'special' thread elsewhere....

Old 19 January 2007, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Is poor a race?
I'm thinking you have no idea of the definition of racism. Is you a whitey?



no. have you ever seen a person with white skin? I am have coloured skin.


and in India they see many different races that we dont. Banlas etc are treated like dirt.


Any way jade did well. And the "White trash " question was well and truly skipped !

so come on you Indians etc lets see you been fair and complain about jermains remark, or is that racism ?


Anyway, time for a large vodka
Old 20 January 2007, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Was it any good?
Well, she came down to earth with a bang. HTH
Old 20 January 2007, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Seamaster

Anyway, time for a large vodka
LOL. As I sit here downing a bottle of Becks.
Old 20 January 2007, 12:20 AM
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Yes, she looked extremely contrite. Appeared somewhat "stage managed", even though I doubt Jade has the intellect to rehearse lines !
Old 20 January 2007, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Yes, she looked extremely contrite. Appeared somewhat "stage managed", even though I doubt Jade has the intellect to rehearse lines !

You need a brain for that
Old 20 January 2007, 12:40 AM
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You have to wonder how much pressure was applied to Channel 4 by the (socialist) State to make Jade see 'the errors of her ways...'

I suspect the worse...

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Old 20 January 2007, 12:42 AM
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I would have thought Jade was given a very quick brief on how she needed to act and what she needed to say. Personnally i expected her to explain why she didn't like Shilpa, the fingers in food,oxo cube rows etc and explain it as in "I didn't like this person because..." rather than completely act as if she was the only guilty party.
Although Jade obviously backed down and apologised for remarks made and came forward and admitted what she had said about Shilpa popadom there wasn't an ounce of regret or any attempt to apologise from Shilpa.

What people fail to realise is Jade's interviews and appearances will still be more valuable and create more media coverage than when Shilpa comes out even if she wins. Jade came 3rd last time yet has kept public interest for 4 yrs. Nobody really wanted to hear from Kate the winner the media were more interested in Jade and this time is exactly the same.
Oh and brace yourself for the inevitable "We love each other really" in your daily rag within the next few weeks with Shilpa and Jade arm in arm.

Whats funny really is Jade has been dropped by the anti-bullying lobby but has probably done more for anti-bullying then anyone else has for years.

Apparently now C4 is going to edit the show to make you feel if you don't vote Shilpa to win then you are racist .
Old 20 January 2007, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
I would have thought Jade was given a very quick brief on how she needed to act and what she needed to say. Personnally i expected her to explain why she didn't like Shilpa, the fingers in food,oxo cube rows etc and explain it as in "I didn't like this person because..." rather than completely act as if she was the only guilty party.
Although Jade obviously backed down and apologised for remarks made and came forward and admitted what she had said about Shilpa popadom there wasn't an ounce of regret or any attempt to apologise from Shilpa.

What people fail to realise is Jade's interviews and appearances will still be more valuable and create more media coverage than when Shilpa comes out even if she wins. Jade came 3rd last time yet has kept public interest for 4 yrs. Nobody really wanted to hear from Kate the winner the media were more interested in Jade and this time is exactly the same.
Oh and brace yourself for the inevitable "We love each other really" in your daily rag within the next few weeks with Shilpa and Jade arm in arm.

Whats funny really is Jade has been dropped by the anti-bullying lobby but has probably done more for anti-bullying then anyone else has for years.

Apparently now C4 is going to edit the show to make you feel if you don't vote Shilpa to win then you are racist .
Jade is a thick as pigs $hit. I hope to God the rest of the world does not judge us on her
She has made a fool of herself and showed her true colours, full stop
Old 20 January 2007, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
Whats funny really is Jade has been dropped by the anti-bullying lobby but has probably done more for anti-bullying then anyone else has for years.
That's a bit like expecting Jewish people to thank old Adolf for setting in motion the chain of events that led to the formation of the Jewish State !
Old 20 January 2007, 12:51 AM
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I don't understand why anyone would get upset by anyone calling Shilpa "Shilpa Popadom"? Would the country be brought to its knees by someone referring to "Diarmuid Potato" or "Ainsley Plantain"?

FFS.
Old 20 January 2007, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I don't understand why anyone would get upset by anyone calling Shilpa "Shilpa Popadom"? Would the country be brought to its knees by someone referring to "Diarmuid Potato" or "Ainsley Plantain"?

FFS.

I have said all along, I do not believe there is a racist issure here. But I do believe Shilpa has been bullied by the thickest person on the planet. Jade is a vegetable
For the record, I detest bullies
Old 20 January 2007, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I don't understand why anyone would get upset by anyone calling Shilpa "Shilpa Popadom"? Would the country be brought to its knees by someone referring to "Diarmuid Potato" or "Ainsley Plantain"?

FFS.
It's all to do with context...

ffs my context is, i'm off to bed
Old 20 January 2007, 01:56 AM
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Napalm the bloody house, end the social and racial problems for once!

Old 20 January 2007, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
That's a bit like expecting Jewish people to thank old Adolf for setting in motion the chain of events that led to the formation of the Jewish State !
Who said anything about thanking her ?. You need to chill out a bit m8 its big brother not the third world war .
Old 20 January 2007, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Jade is a thick as pigs $hit. I hope to God the rest of the world does not judge us on her
She has made a fool of herself and showed her true colours, full stop
I suppose anyone who judges us as a race on Jade's actions is ignorant and a racist so leave them to it. .
Old 20 January 2007, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Seamaster
For those of you that want to see racism. Fly to Bombay etc and see how the rich indians treat the poor.

when I lasted stayed there with a friends rich family. I was told off for talking to one of the drivers kids (wanted to know about English cars !) And the kid was told to " F*** Off" by the lady whe where staying with. She said people like us should not talk to these lower casts. I packed and left ,after telling her a few things or two! One of the most racist places I have visited. Thailand been one of the others. Dubai/Saudi been the worst.
I had a similar experience working near Delhi last year, there was a bit of a lull while we were waiting for the sparkies to get their fingers out, so I spent the time teaching my two allocated labourers some basic English, to help them understand what I wanted. One of the managers saw me doing this and went bananas, he basically told me that I should not be helping these people because they were just scum from the south, who needed to be kept in their place, not educated
Then he moved to hit one of them with his walking cane I stoppedhim and told him that whilst they were working for me they were under my protection, and if he didn't like it I was perfectly happy to leave site. Which by the way at that point would invalidate all his plant warranties After that I never saw him again, and all the workers in that area couldn't do enough for me

Funnily enough, all the delays (and there were many) on the site were down to the various managers being unable to follow basic instructions
Old 20 January 2007, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I don't understand why anyone would get upset by anyone calling Shilpa "Shilpa Popadom"? Would the country be brought to its knees by someone referring to "Diarmuid Potato" or "Ainsley Plantain"?

FFS.
i agree.........ithought the popadom was funny surly shilpa will laugh at it also.
Old 20 January 2007, 08:52 AM
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Did anyone else see the interview with Davina afterwards..
She slipped up good and proper.
"So how did you feel in the diary room when BB told you... <splutter, splutter>
Asked you if you feel you should make friends with shilpa"

PMSL.

Andy
Old 20 January 2007, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I don't understand why anyone would get upset by anyone calling Shilpa "Shilpa Popadom"? Would the country be brought to its knees by someone referring to "Diarmuid Potato" or "Ainsley Plantain"?

FFS.
Good comparison, but as it went hand in hand with a lot of bullying, and mentions of 'she should go 'ome' that's what tips the balance. And yes lets keep it in perspective, it aint NF goosestepping stuff [and why its best to & tut tut at it and say she dont reprezent]

There was such an air of 'you reap what you sow' [] as Jade was trying to save her bacon [] last night. I think she did say 'sorry' briefly to Shilpa [without any eye contact] in the hope that would help her. Me-thinks not. Total ham [] acting designed to cure [] the damage for purely selfish reasons. Too late babe...

D
Old 20 January 2007, 09:42 AM
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To me its clear that the public have been maipulated big time when the biggest talking point is a low-brow tv show.
Old 20 January 2007, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
I had a similar experience working near Delhi last year, there was a bit of a lull while we were waiting for the sparkies to get their fingers out, so I spent the time teaching my two allocated labourers some basic English, to help them understand what I wanted. One of the managers saw me doing this and went bananas, he basically told me that I should not be helping these people because they were just scum from the south, who needed to be kept in their place, not educated
Then he moved to hit one of them with his walking cane I stoppedhim and told him that whilst they were working for me they were under my protection, and if he didn't like it I was perfectly happy to leave site. Which by the way at that point would invalidate all his plant warranties After that I never saw him again, and all the workers in that area couldn't do enough for me

Funnily enough, all the delays (and there were many) on the site were down to the various managers being unable to follow basic instructions


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crisp , most have never ever seen real racism. This country has gone down on its knees over this stupid issue and looks pathetic.

These people should go out further than Ibiza and see what the real world is about. The Black white racism debate is small fry compared to other races and nationalities racial issues.
Old 20 January 2007, 10:56 AM
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I think she did say 'sorry' briefly to Shilpa [without any eye contact]
Which is more than Shilpa has, in fact she tried to argue with Jade again. I await Jermains grilling for his "White Trash" comments.
Old 20 January 2007, 11:04 AM
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you wont see it in the media etc "White trash' is ok as we are not covered under Racism guide lines !!
Old 20 January 2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
Isn't slag a derogatory term ?. Isn't it meant to aimed at girls who sleep around a lot ?. How exactly anything that has happened in the BB house relates to anyone's sex lives is beyond me. To me your just as guilty.
I am fully aware that "slag" is a derogatory word, in more senses than one and in my opinion it fits their description very well. That is exactly why I used it.

It is also not racist being used in this context.

Les !
Old 20 January 2007, 12:09 PM
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did any one actually see dispatches???????????????
Old 20 January 2007, 01:40 PM
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Yes I did. Lots of racial slurs there as well as incitement to kill and main, not to mention sexism and just about every other ism going. Sadly as this was mostly old ginger bearded extremists of Asian appearance the phone lines of CH4 won't be jammed.

Oh, and Edwina Currie on Question Time calling the three women slags, I thought that was a bit rich


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