anyone keep tropical fish ?
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We like Cardinal Tetras. Only tiny tots so won't effect the balance too much but they are pretty as a small group. They will get chomped by aggressive fish though so not sure about the Sharks although the name doesn't inspire confidence Ask at Maidenhead. david
Oh - and buy a bucket. Bit technical but they are used to carry water
Oh - and buy a bucket. Bit technical but they are used to carry water
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The biorb was a learning curve and from the answers I got on here, it would be best to get a "proper" aquarium
They are notoriously hard to keep as the smaller the tank, the greater the water problems. I will keep the Biorb, but it will only have a small fish or 2 in it and used as a quarantine. The pump is very noisy BTW...
They are notoriously hard to keep as the smaller the tank, the greater the water problems. I will keep the Biorb, but it will only have a small fish or 2 in it and used as a quarantine. The pump is very noisy BTW...
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Well, today we bought a Juwel Rio 125
Have set it all up and running it in. Have a few real plants and rocks in it and will put the ones from the Biorb once it's cycled and ready for the fish.
Need to get a poster for the background, but don't really know what to choose, e.g. the rock stuff...
Will need some advice on stocking too. How many fish would a 125 litre tank let me have? I will of course have a clown loach and a guppy to start!
I will get another couple of clowns, Dave likes the silver sharks so probably get 3-4 of those, I like the little angel fish, another couple of guppies, a plec, a catfish... Any others?
Can't wait to get some fish - but will make sure the water's right first!
Have set it all up and running it in. Have a few real plants and rocks in it and will put the ones from the Biorb once it's cycled and ready for the fish.
Need to get a poster for the background, but don't really know what to choose, e.g. the rock stuff...
Will need some advice on stocking too. How many fish would a 125 litre tank let me have? I will of course have a clown loach and a guppy to start!
I will get another couple of clowns, Dave likes the silver sharks so probably get 3-4 of those, I like the little angel fish, another couple of guppies, a plec, a catfish... Any others?
Can't wait to get some fish - but will make sure the water's right first!
However do not get silver sharks for that size tank. Firstly they grow enormous and secondly they are actually a member of the carp family and that means they produce a hell of a lot of waste which in turn means you need a hell of a lot of filtration and very regular water changes. If the filtration can't handle the waste you will soon end up with amonia problems and fish will start dieing off. Visit the London aquarium where they have a huge (I mean big enough for peope to swim about in) tank with a very large shoal of silver sharks to see how big they get, very impressive.
Good starter fish to help establish the tank are white clouds or zebra danios. These are small fish but very hardy. They will produce small amounts of waste enough for the filtration system to get established and be able to survive the water conditions while the cycle occurs.
As for hot water be careful with this as hot water tanks will normally contaminate the water with harmful substances and add metal elements to the waters chemistry. Its not drinking water because its not pure. If you do use it there are plenty of water neutralisers out there that will clean hot water.
As for stocking that size tank it all depends on the size of the fish and how much waste they produce. The more food the fish like they more waste they will produce so the more of these types of fish you have the less total number of fish you will be able keep. Also only build the stock up at a couple of fish at a time so that the filter can handle the extra waste produced by new fish. Too many in one go and the amonia levels will shoot up.
Plec's are very hardy fish and produce huge amounts of waste, one of the hardiest out there but again grow massive. I have a sailfin and 190 litres is too small for it and I have stunted its growth over the years I have had it. They are supposed to reach full length of upto 18" in less than 2 years. MIne is only 9" in about 6 years I have seen some full grown plecs's at Bournemouth aquarium and they were enormous, not just in that they were near on 18" in length but the width and size of their bodies made my sailfin look like a baby. Personally I don't think common and sailfin plecs should be sold to the public after seeing what they should grow too. However you can buy much smaller plecs that will only grow to 6" or 9" for others. These tend to be specialist breeds and will cost around £30 upwards instead of the couple of quid for commons and sailfins. There is a thread on one of the fish forums that lists all the plec names/L numbers of the ones that are small breeds. I will see if I can find it.
Angel fish are pretty fish but notoriously difficult to keep mainly because other fish will like to chew their fins. Again they grow very big depth wise so need a deep tank to keep them in.
Once its up and running get some pics up
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The biorb was a learning curve and from the answers I got on here, it would be best to get a "proper" aquarium
They are notoriously hard to keep as the smaller the tank, the greater the water problems. I will keep the Biorb, but it will only have a small fish or 2 in it and used as a quarantine. The pump is very noisy BTW...
They are notoriously hard to keep as the smaller the tank, the greater the water problems. I will keep the Biorb, but it will only have a small fish or 2 in it and used as a quarantine. The pump is very noisy BTW...
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In my opinion I think you would be better off buying a smaller tropical tank and learning from that. Also you don't have to spend a fortune buying new stuff from aquarium shops. There are various free ads that will have an abundance of 2nd hand aquariums where you will pick up some real bargains and get a good setup done for a fraction of the cost of new kit.
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Thanks Bravo, excellent advice as per. I remembered that the plecs create a lot of waste - I told Dave that today in the shop, so I was listening!
We'll go up to Maidenhead next weekend to see what they say. Is that too soon? Should I get a few Danios while cycling? I can put the guppy and the loach in too, plus the plant and bogwood so the bacteria from the orb will help the new tank.
We'll go up to Maidenhead next weekend to see what they say. Is that too soon? Should I get a few Danios while cycling? I can put the guppy and the loach in too, plus the plant and bogwood so the bacteria from the orb will help the new tank.
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Both my fish are very active in the Orb tonight - even the loach has come out to play. Perhaps they can sense their new house not too far away!
Tested the water and pH is a little low, (about 6.5) but did a water change yesterday, so will test again tomorrow.
Thanks C B B. I really like it. I much preferred the Juwel tanks to the others available. We got the dark wood one which fits in better with our sofas etc.
Tested the water and pH is a little low, (about 6.5) but did a water change yesterday, so will test again tomorrow.
Thanks C B B. I really like it. I much preferred the Juwel tanks to the others available. We got the dark wood one which fits in better with our sofas etc.
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Here is how it is right now:
It is quite cloudy and looks a bit empty. Once it's got a background, it will be better. I'll go up Maidenhead Aquatics tomorrow and get a couple more plants I think.
It is quite cloudy and looks a bit empty. Once it's got a background, it will be better. I'll go up Maidenhead Aquatics tomorrow and get a couple more plants I think.
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I might be worth picking up an "air diffuser for pump" which fits on the end of the filter output pipe and help oxygenate the water whilst you're at the shop.
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Thanks Bravo, excellent advice as per. I remembered that the plecs create a lot of waste - I told Dave that today in the shop, so I was listening!
We'll go up to Maidenhead next weekend to see what they say. Is that too soon? Should I get a few Danios while cycling? I can put the guppy and the loach in too, plus the plant and bogwood so the bacteria from the orb will help the new tank.
We'll go up to Maidenhead next weekend to see what they say. Is that too soon? Should I get a few Danios while cycling? I can put the guppy and the loach in too, plus the plant and bogwood so the bacteria from the orb will help the new tank.
For oxygenation have a look at air stones. They are not everyones cup of tea and don't suit every tank, they can crack some tanks depending on where they are placed so best discuss these with the local fish shop. As central as possible is what I have always heard/been told. Mine is smack bang in the middle of my tank and the bubbles aren't affected by the strong current around the outside of the tank and produce a lot of breaking bubbles on the surface. I also have 2 additional fluvial pumps added to the tank with one slightly above the water to add oxygen as the water hits the surface. Clown loaches require more oxygen than other fish so can not have too much.
Oh and nice looking tank, don't worry about the water clouding they all do that at the start.
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an airstone will make almost no difference to O2 levels in the water - even if the air is released at the base of the tank so you think any O2 is disolved into the water on its 15" journey to the surface!
surface agitation will increase O2, aim the pump outlet at the suface.
surface agitation will increase O2, aim the pump outlet at the suface.
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an airstone will make almost no difference to O2 levels in the water - even if the air is released at the base of the tank so you think any O2 is disolved into the water on its 15" journey to the surface!
surface agitation will increase O2, aim the pump outlet at the suface.
surface agitation will increase O2, aim the pump outlet at the suface.
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Why should an air stone crack glass? I have pointed the outlet from the pump towards the surface of the water, so hopefully this should help with oxygenation.
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Went up to Maidenhead this afternoon and got a few bits and pieces. Another couple of plants, some bogwood - the pH was very high and this lowers it apparently, a stone with a hole in it and a pump with airstone etc.
Also got a background poster thingy - how do I fix it? I thought someone said silicon sealant? Is that right?
Asked in the shop and they said Zebra Danios will be fine to put in this weekend, but I won't be happy until I've reduced the pH a bit. It's about 8.5-9.0 at the moment which is a bit high for danios according to a couple of websites I've looked at.
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Also got a background poster thingy - how do I fix it? I thought someone said silicon sealant? Is that right?
Asked in the shop and they said Zebra Danios will be fine to put in this weekend, but I won't be happy until I've reduced the pH a bit. It's about 8.5-9.0 at the moment which is a bit high for danios according to a couple of websites I've looked at.
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Very nice. The poster can be attached with tape. I cut mine very carefully and then cut off strips of tape and the poster is on fine, just need to make sure its pulled tight and that the tape can't be seen by making sure the poster goes all the way to the edges of the glass.
Here is that thread on small plecos 30 Plecos Under 8 Inches - Tropical Fish Forums
Here is that thread on small plecos 30 Plecos Under 8 Inches - Tropical Fish Forums
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I have been told that using baby oil is the best way to fix it on, but I was afraid I'd get a mini oil slick in the tank so I just soaked the back of the tank with water and used a credit card to remove the bubbles etc, it worked very well although had to re-do it about 6 months later