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Old 26 January 2007, 11:07 AM
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I woprked for BA three years ago, not cabin crew I should add!
But from my experience BA cabin crew are an absolute joke, they are so over pampered and over paid it's unbelievable.
My sister is cabin crew for another airline and they don't get half the benefits that BA do, I can say from personal experience I would never fly wth BA through choice, they have been trading far too long on their name and past history IMO
Old 26 January 2007, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamescsti
I woprked for BA three years ago, not cabin crew I should add!
But from my experience BA cabin crew are an absolute joke, they are so over pampered and over paid it's unbelievable.
My sister is cabin crew for another airline and they don't get half the benefits that BA do, I can say from personal experience I would never fly wth BA through choice, they have been trading far too long on their name and past history IMO
That may be the case but BA are still one of the premier airlines in the world IMO. In fact when taking into account their network, booking system, reliability, consistency etc overall they are the best.
Old 26 January 2007, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamescsti
I woprked for BA three years ago, not cabin crew I should add!
But from my experience BA cabin crew are an absolute joke, they are so over pampered and over paid it's unbelievable.
My sister is cabin crew for another airline and they don't get half the benefits that BA do, I can say from personal experience I would never fly wth BA through choice, they have been trading far too long on their name and past history IMO
BA is riddled with archaic working practices which slowly but surely will be removed as indeed many have already been done away with. This is the union flexing it's muscles which I believe will end in a negotiated settlement because I think they've made a mistake here - otherwise why wouldn't they be willing to go to arbitration.

The tragedy here is that BA is probably the largest quality airline, offering a decent long/short haul service that is not propped up by government and as such deserves to succeed.
Old 26 January 2007, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
You'd never do it. Airline sickness records are guarded like the crown jewels!
They did show some figures on BBC News last night.

Can't remember the figures, but BA staff are paid more, work less hours and take more sick days than the two airlines they compared to - Ryanair and Easyjet.

Easyjet declined to comment on the sick days, but Ryanairs staff took on average - 4 days.
Old 26 January 2007, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SWRTWannabe
They did show some figures on BBC News last night.

Can't remember the figures, but BA staff are paid more, work less hours and take more sick days than the two airlines they compared to - Ryanair and Easyjet.

Easyjet declined to comment on the sick days, but Ryanairs staff took on average - 4 days.
But staff on Ryanair and Easyjet are one level above call-centre workers. Totally different class and also totally short haul.
Old 26 January 2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by the_keyboard_warrior
I guarentee that the person behind this username is not, I repeat NOT PSL or DCI.

OK? You ****-invading, gibbon-raping, latex-sniffing, toe jam-guzzling, puss-nibbling, butt-faced palooka!
I honestly doubt that he gets the chance to do any "puss-nibbling"!

When it comes to the sickness bit PSL, maybe you don't understand the serious risk of flying with a cold due to the pressurisation changes which are most effective from sea level up to 4500 feet, ie the cabin pressure of a passenger aircraft. This causes the chance of a blocked or burst eardrum and also severe sinus infection because of the bugs being forced in to the sinuses. If you are employed in the flying industry then this is very significant since bad infection could cause you to lose your job.

For this reason, people employed on flying duties should not fly with a cold because of the genuine risks involved. A lot different to working at sea level with a head cold! This will increase your chance of being off sick.

It was also reported that the BA management has become "macho" and doubtless is causing distress to the cabin staff because of their attitude. I have seen many instances of smart **** jumped up managers, with a university education but who have not got the first idea how to manage people. Nothing worse than people who cannot engender respect and so feel they have to rule by the use of fear!

Can't say I blame the cabin crew for their threatened action in this circumstance.

Les
Old 26 January 2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
But staff on Ryanair and Easyjet are one level above call-centre workers. Totally different class and also totally short haul.
Oh, give over, they serve tea and coffee !

I sit there and read my book or paper, about half way through someone brings me something supposedly edible which I was down with a drink of my choice, dont really care what class they are as long as I get it and not into my lap.

I know they do the safety aspect and are well trained in that respect but they all do that, whatever airline and I suspect that the training has to be to a standard.

I am not trying to belittle cabin crew but its not that big of a deal, I reckon the heyday of air travel kind of glamourised it, when air travel was still exclusive, the airlines were happy to keep this up as how else would they get anyone to do it ?

I used to work in the concourse bar in Manchester Airport in 1989 whilst at college, over the hols and would spend a significant amount of time perving on air hostesses passing, I think they enjoyed the attention off the likes of us SAS cafe grunts so they could feel superior, the impression I got from their looks was that I was ok to look but don't dare come anywhere near me you unpleasant little oik seeing as I am so glamourous, important and gorgeous, I kind of accepted this seeing as I was just someone who served drinks and cleared other peoples food debris away......


I reckon a lot of the sickness is due to them being poisened by their make up leeching through their skin and turning their insides orange, and possibly stewards 'injuring' each other.
Old 26 January 2007, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
and possibly stewards 'injuring' each other.
Old 26 January 2007, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I honestly doubt that he gets the chance to do any "puss-nibbling"!

When it comes to the sickness bit PSL, maybe you don't understand the serious risk of flying with a cold due to the pressurisation changes which are most effective from sea level up to 4500 feet, ie the cabin pressure of a passenger aircraft. This causes the chance of a blocked or burst eardrum and also severe sinus infection because of the bugs being forced in to the sinuses. If you are employed in the flying industry then this is very significant since bad infection could cause you to lose your job.

For this reason, people employed on flying duties should not fly with a cold because of the genuine risks involved. A lot different to working at sea level with a head cold! This will increase your chance of being off sick.

It was also reported that the BA management has become "macho" and doubtless is causing distress to the cabin staff because of their attitude. I have seen many instances of smart **** jumped up managers, with a university education but who have not got the first idea how to manage people. Nothing worse than people who cannot engender respect and so feel they have to rule by the use of fear!

Can't say I blame the cabin crew for their threatened action in this circumstance.

Les

OK then biggles...

If it's soooooooo potentially serious why doesn't the airline stop passengers from flying with suspected 'colds'

Feckin trolley dolly's...... light weights the lot of them
Old 26 January 2007, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
OK then biggles...

If it's soooooooo potentially serious why doesn't the airline stop passengers from flying with suspected 'colds'

Feckin trolley dolly's...... light weights the lot of them
There is a deal of difference from a single flight with a head cold, although it is not recommended and it is up to the respective passenger what they want to do anyway, and someone who works under those conditions and may have to suffer several climbs and descents on a round trip which is where the damage takes place. It also extends the deleterious effects of the cold and prolongs the time off while unfit to fly.

I suspect you are too quick to criticise about something that you don't understand DCI.

Biggles
Old 26 January 2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I suspect you are too quick to criticise about something that you don't understand DCI.

Biggles
I suspect you're right, but to be honest when has that ever stopped me

DCI

And on another CC related issue; why are 99% of male cabin crew bent as a nine bob note?

Seriously though! What is it about CC that attracts gays?? is it the altitude.... or the uniforms??
Old 26 January 2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
They take 22 days - on average - each year off sick

BA decide that they have had enough and want to put policies in place to correct the skivving ..............

What do the lazy scumbags do? GO ON STRIKE!!!!

SACK THE LOT OF THEM!!!!!
Yeah, lazy ****s and they should ****ing be sacked. lazy ****ing ****ing *******s!
Old 26 January 2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
I suspect you're right, but to be honest when has that ever stopped me

DCI

And on another CC related issue; why are 99% of male cabin crew bent as a nine bob note?

Seriously though! What is it about CC that attracts gays?? is it the altitude.... or the uniforms??
Guess it's not the sort of job that has attracted masculine men.
Old 26 January 2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I honestly doubt that he gets the chance to do any "puss-nibbling"!

When it comes to the sickness bit PSL, maybe you don't understand the serious risk of flying with a cold due to the pressurisation changes which are most effective from sea level up to 4500 feet, ie the cabin pressure of a passenger aircraft. This causes the chance of a blocked or burst eardrum and also severe sinus infection because of the bugs being forced in to the sinuses. If you are employed in the flying industry then this is very significant since bad infection could cause you to lose your job.

For this reason, people employed on flying duties should not fly with a cold because of the genuine risks involved. A lot different to working at sea level with a head cold! This will increase your chance of being off sick.

It was also reported that the BA management has become "macho" and doubtless is causing distress to the cabin staff because of their attitude. I have seen many instances of smart **** jumped up managers, with a university education but who have not got the first idea how to manage people. Nothing worse than people who cannot engender respect and so feel they have to rule by the use of fear!

Can't say I blame the cabin crew for their threatened action in this circumstance.

Les
Leslie - can you explain why BA cabin crew have a higher rate than their competitors? Can you also explain why their absentee rate peaks around events such as Ascot and Wimbledon?

Thought not.
Old 26 January 2007, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Leslie - can you explain why BA cabin crew have a higher rate than their competitors? Can you also explain why their absentee rate peaks around events such as Ascot and Wimbledon?

Thought not.
Because BA planes aren't cleaned properly. Too many immigrants taken on to do those roles, in a cost cutting exercise by WW. He's reaping the whirlwind now.

Everyone knows that airborne pathogens peak around mid-June through mid-July. That just coincides with Ascot and Wimbledon.

Easy.



















Old 26 January 2007, 05:44 PM
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Haha. I must have missed that bit when I took Human Performance.
Old 27 January 2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Leslie - can you explain why BA cabin crew have a higher rate than their competitors? Can you also explain why their absentee rate peaks around events such as Ascot and Wimbledon?

Thought not.
No I can't FCD, but you must explain what you mean by "rate", nor did I know anything about their attendance at Ascot etc.

Isn't it just as well that I am prepared to admit that though since you were so previous to assume that I didn't?

You are an honest man DCI.

Les
Old 27 January 2007, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Because BA planes aren't cleaned properly. Too many immigrants taken on to do those roles, in a cost cutting exercise by WW. He's reaping the whirlwind now.

Everyone knows that airborne pathogens peak around mid-June through mid-July. That just coincides with Ascot and Wimbledon.

Easy.




















Every one knows that immigrants clean fantastically well and if Polish are cleaning planes then they are as clean as they could possibly be. Sack all the Lazy English ***** At BA and get some proper hardworking fit Polish on board who actually know what customer service is which in my experience, the old haggard looking tarts a BA do not.
Old 27 January 2007, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Every one knows that immigrants clean fantastically well and if Polish are cleaning planes then they are as clean as they could possibly be. Sack all the Lazy English ***** At BA and get some proper hardworking fit Polish on board who actually know what customer service is which in my experience, the old haggard looking tarts a BA do not.
FFS, if you thought my post was serious, your a bigger idiot than the thread starter!
Old 27 January 2007, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
There is a deal of difference from a single flight with a head cold, although it is not recommended and it is up to the respective passenger what they want to do anyway, and someone who works under those conditions and may have to suffer several climbs and descents on a round trip which is where the damage takes place. It also extends the deleterious effects of the cold and prolongs the time off while unfit to fly.

I suspect you are too quick to criticise about something that you don't understand DCI.

Biggles
Last month I flew to Bulgaria with a heavy cold ...came back with bl00dy glue ear ...& ive still got it now!
Old 28 January 2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DazW
Last month I flew to Bulgaria with a heavy cold ...came back with bl00dy glue ear ...& ive still got it now!
It can take a hell of a long time to clear up, that is why those who have a flying job are quick to avoid it. Keep trying something like a Vick inhaler, they can work well. I always carried one to work with me.

Les
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