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Old 09 February 2007, 11:13 AM
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My ex is the biggest bitch yuo'll ever meet. My eldest Son lives with her and when i left her i was with him 24/7 as well as looking after her then 5yr old daughter. I did everything for both kids, she was busy going out and getting pissed and taking drugs, even though she is epileptic.
I hated her with a passion and left several times before my son was born, but always returned for fear of what would happen to her Daughter. Although me and her daugher's dad hated each other at first over time we became friends, as he saw how well i was taking care of his little girl. I now don't see her little girl at all, and haven't done really for 3 and a half years even though her first words were my name.
Her family said the kid(s) were safer with me, the neighbours said they were safer with me, her little girls dad said he would feel better if i had them over her.
Social services basically said they saw loads of parents who regularly took drugs around their kids but they were otherwise "good parents". After i went to social services daily with reports of her drug taking and her being hospitalised after having a fit with my son in the car.
I spent around £2k on legal advice on trying to get custody, although i was told quite clearly i had no chance, even though her little girls Dad had taken her to court with allegations of drug abuse.

So now i see my Son at weekends. He's very introvert, comes round in a mess without eating and has very shabby clothes even though me and my mrs have given her loads of expensive clothes to put on him. She recently told me she had a fit in October, yet still drives me Son everywhere.
If i say anything she stops me seeing him for weeks on end.
I gave up totally on social services, everytime i went i left in a furious rage and would end up doing something stupid. The solicitor cost me £150 an hour for absolutely useless advice so i gave up on the idea of custody.
The only people i see really protesting over the rights of kids is Fathers for Justice. Some people may think they are going about it in the wrong way but at least they are doing something, and haven't given up like i have.

My Son may not be abused but in my eyes is in immediate danger. I'm sure there are hundreds of cases of negligence when it comes to the Social Services, not many are highlighted though.
Old 09 February 2007, 11:58 AM
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I don't think donating money to the NSPCC is going to really help in the slightest. You would be surprised to find out what proportion of your 10 quid actually goes to the victims. So much is spent on admin, overheads etc.

Anyway, the issue here is the social services and the government in terms of monitoring the welfare of the children. Sick people like this unfortunately exist, how and why is another question. Do you remember this?:

BBC NEWS | England | Beds/Bucks/Herts | Babysitters jailed for baby rape

Life sentences should be given to all child abuse cases, simple as. That should deter some of the sick bastads not to even attempt this crap.
Old 09 February 2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RAJ27
I don't think donating money to the NSPCC is going to really help in the slightest. You would be surprised to find out what proportion of your 10 quid actually goes to the victims. So much is spent on admin, overheads etc.
I'd agree with that, I make a point of donating to small charities, a greater proportion of the pence in the pound you donate goes to the business end of what the charity does.

And you dont have to worry about the treatement they'll recieve in prision. I knew a guy who was in and out of prison and believe me, in these cases, the situation will be engineered by inmates and screws alike to ensure some real justice is meted out. The case has been publicised enough to pretty much guarantee this pair will get what they deserve.

The only irony is it will be administered by those the same courts have convicted and sentenced.

Not that I'm complaining of couse
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Old 09 February 2007, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I agree with all of that. These scum should never be allowed to go free again. Pity that flogging is not still on the books-in public too!

Can't believe that the Social Services are so incompetent to allow this sort of thing to happen again when they saw what was happening in the first place.

Its about time the people working in these useless goverment quango like organisations were given the order of the boot when they show their inability to do their job and protect poor children like that.

Les
Working for a joing Social Services (adults) / Housing, I know the rediculous number of hoops you have to go through to get anythings done, but I don't understand how these cases happen. I work with vulnerable adults rather than children, but part of my job is to ensure the support workers know their jobs. In doing that I grill them about how they would spot potential abuse - physical or not (you're much more likely to notice changes to behaviour than physical signs, covered up by the parents).

hanging is too good for these 2. it's little consolation that they'll get a seriously bad time in jail. Their other kids will also end up in care, so they're victims as well.

IMO anyone (expecially parents) who can read this story, and still think these 'people' have any human rights should be used for target practice for US planes. THat'd be worth a visit to U tube to see...

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Old 09 February 2007, 01:44 PM
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[quote=RAJ27;6641196]I don't think donating money to the NSPCC is going to really help in the slightest. You would be surprised to find out what proportion of your 10 quid actually goes to the victims. So much is spent on admin, overheads etc.

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But smaller charities have higher % overheads. I have contracts for over 300 services delivered by charities, and unfortunately have to squeeze their costs. Smaller ones still have fixed costs. The charities commission are quite strict with regards to overheads (as am I!) and surpluses etc.

I've just got a Mencap credit card (as I'm a member), and they get £50 as soon as you start using, plus a small percentage per £. Pretty good that I recon.

just found this, bnut it doesn't state the benefits to the charity

NSPCC Visa Card

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Old 10 February 2007, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pwhittle
Working for a joing Social Services (adults) / Housing, I know the rediculous number of hoops you have to go through to get anythings done, but I don't understand how these cases happen. I work with vulnerable adults rather than children, but part of my job is to ensure the support workers know their jobs. In doing that I grill them about how they would spot potential abuse - physical or not (you're much more likely to notice changes to behaviour than physical signs, covered up by the parents).

hanging is too good for these 2. it's little consolation that they'll get a seriously bad time in jail. Their other kids will also end up in care, so they're victims as well.

IMO anyone (expecially parents) who can read this story, and still think these 'people' have any human rights should be used for target practice for US planes. THat'd be worth a visit to U tube to see...
As a matter of interest, when you deal with the employees, do you consider that they seem to be competent at their job and do they appear to take what you are saying on board?

Les
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