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19 February 2007, 10:17 PM
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guys talking aboot morals and family values
i woz in morrissons collecting my kids medicine and one of the front pages of the newspapers either the sun or daily record i cant remember said
10 yr olds r hooked on sex, it woz very heartbreaking wee kids,innocent lil kids r having sex and most of the parents know what their kids r up tae , coz of lack of family values nothing is done and it is very sad,where has innocence gone, is it bad company, or too much tv filth and movie filth or magazines
how sad is it, the lil ones r having sex at 10
i woz in morrissons collecting my kids medicine and one of the front pages of the newspapers either the sun or daily record i cant remember said
10 yr olds r hooked on sex, it woz very heartbreaking wee kids,innocent lil kids r having sex and most of the parents know what their kids r up tae , coz of lack of family values nothing is done and it is very sad,where has innocence gone, is it bad company, or too much tv filth and movie filth or magazines
how sad is it, the lil ones r having sex at 10
19 February 2007, 10:27 PM
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Madrassas hit by sex abuse claims
A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.
There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.
That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.
The minister's revelations have sparked death threats and infuriated some religious political leaders.
Mr Hussain said he had received death threats from clerics, but that he had done his job and his conscience was clear
A lack of morals and family values isn't only a western problem, then.
Seriously though, it is said that puberty is starting increasingly earlier - by around 6 months every decade.
A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.
There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.
That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.
The minister's revelations have sparked death threats and infuriated some religious political leaders.
Mr Hussain said he had received death threats from clerics, but that he had done his job and his conscience was clear
A lack of morals and family values isn't only a western problem, then.
Seriously though, it is said that puberty is starting increasingly earlier - by around 6 months every decade.
19 February 2007, 10:31 PM
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Shame, as I love my indian food, sweets especially, but have had to stop.
But If I am ever in Glasgow I will make sure to let you know. Same for when you are ever in London.
Chill out on the anti Hindu insults though mate, I know why you do it but its not the right thing to do.
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19 February 2007, 10:37 PM
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Madrassas hit by sex abuse claims
A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.
There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.
That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.
The minister's revelations have sparked death threats and infuriated some religious political leaders.
Mr Hussain said he had received death threats from clerics, but that he had done his job and his conscience was clear
A lack of morals and family values isn't only a western problem, then.
Seriously though, it is said that puberty is starting increasingly earlier - by around 6 months every decade.
A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.
There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.
That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.
The minister's revelations have sparked death threats and infuriated some religious political leaders.
Mr Hussain said he had received death threats from clerics, but that he had done his job and his conscience was clear
A lack of morals and family values isn't only a western problem, then.
Seriously though, it is said that puberty is starting increasingly earlier - by around 6 months every decade.
u r a very sad person suresh, we get evil people in the uk and elsewhere and in churches etc etc etc, it shows your worth and it is very low, in india the hindu priests rape the temple girls as u call the temple ******, the lil girls who they rape and take shots on
check it oot on the web u will find many, it shows how low u will go and at least in islam if anyone rapes or molests a child , in shariah their punishable my death
here is just a taste of the evil of your hindu lot
Stop Dalit atrocities and Brutality against dalits in India - Online Petition
Hindu priest held in rape of teenager during 'ritual'
19 February 2007, 10:41 PM
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Thanks Moses, that would be nice, but as I am diabetic will have to pass!! LOL! Don't worry you weren't to know!
Shame, as I love my indian food, sweets especially, but have had to stop.
But If I am ever in Glasgow I will make sure to let you know. Same for when you are ever in London.
Chill out on the anti Hindu insults though mate, I know why you do it but its not the right thing to do.
Asif
Shame, as I love my indian food, sweets especially, but have had to stop.
But If I am ever in Glasgow I will make sure to let you know. Same for when you are ever in London.
Chill out on the anti Hindu insults though mate, I know why you do it but its not the right thing to do.
Asif
so sorry tae hear aboot u being diabetic bros , its an asian curse aint it
i will buy u some thorntons diabetic chocolates inshallah and u r more than welcome my bros and jazakAllah khairun for the offer
19 February 2007, 10:46 PM
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also try to read aboot lord brahma
u know why he has so many heads, coz he woz a perv and wanted incest by raping his daughter
sick lord indeed, shiva cut one of his heads aff when he tried tae rape shiva;s wife, by the way their all Gods in heaven , shiva, vishnu and brahma
he woz so drunk and he had one head at the time , he saw shiva's wife and instead of turning his head and watching her wherever he went, a few heads popped up whereever parvathi tried tae escape , so he has a problem wae whiplash tae coz he struggles tae move his head and wherever he turns a head pops up and finally one of his heads got chopped aff by shiva
its nuts
u know why he has so many heads, coz he woz a perv and wanted incest by raping his daughter
sick lord indeed, shiva cut one of his heads aff when he tried tae rape shiva;s wife, by the way their all Gods in heaven , shiva, vishnu and brahma
he woz so drunk and he had one head at the time , he saw shiva's wife and instead of turning his head and watching her wherever he went, a few heads popped up whereever parvathi tried tae escape , so he has a problem wae whiplash tae coz he struggles tae move his head and wherever he turns a head pops up and finally one of his heads got chopped aff by shiva
its nuts
19 February 2007, 10:47 PM
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sorry bros i know it aint the right thing tae dae, suresh has tae be given his own medicine back, see if he woz decent i wouldnt have gone that route, sometimes a person needs tae be taught wae a stick, thats the only reason i dae it bros
so sorry tae hear aboot u being diabetic bros , its an asian curse aint it
i will buy u some thorntons diabetic chocolates inshallah and u r more than welcome my bros and jazakAllah khairun for the offer
so sorry tae hear aboot u being diabetic bros , its an asian curse aint it
i will buy u some thorntons diabetic chocolates inshallah and u r more than welcome my bros and jazakAllah khairun for the offer
I know what you are saying, just try to rise above it.
Someone else mentioned the Thortons Diabetic chocolates, will try them.
Take it easy.
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19 February 2007, 10:55 PM
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19 February 2007, 10:56 PM
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peace bros tae u and your family ameen
19 February 2007, 10:58 PM
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... all this bullsh1t aboot muslim oppression in india, huh makes me laff, if that woz the case not a single hindu would have been left in india all would have been muslims, he should thank God it woz muslims who ruled india and not christians lol
and not a single jew would have been alive today if it wasnt of the muslims saving them and taking them tae islamic lands , coz the christians loved the pogroms against jews and slaughtered them and raped their wimmin, muslims stepped in and saved them
and still they plot evil against muslims, ungrateful pr1cks
and not a single jew would have been alive today if it wasnt of the muslims saving them and taking them tae islamic lands , coz the christians loved the pogroms against jews and slaughtered them and raped their wimmin, muslims stepped in and saved them
and still they plot evil against muslims, ungrateful pr1cks
A new wave of persecution of Christians started in Iran after the election of hard-line conservative president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Since 2005´s election, many Christians – mainly those of Islamic background – have not only been rounded up for harassment, but many have been arrested and beaten. In Uzbekistan, government measures following the suppression of the popular uprising in Andijan led to restrictions in religious freedom for Christians. The level of monitoring of churches and Christians has increased considerably. Violence against Christians in India seems to be on the rise. Christians are coming under increased pressure (in the form of physical attacks, killings, depiction in the media, threats etc.) because of accusations of (alleged) outreach activities. Intolerance and atrocities against minorities are increasing in Bangladesh. A radicalisation is evident among Muslims in the country, where several Christians were murdered in connection with their faith in 2005.
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Christians (those with a living faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour - who died to take the punishment that we deserved) do not hate muslims. We love you and want to see you guys getting to heaven to spend eternity with the one true God as well.
We don't have to earn our way to heaven, Jesus has already paid the price. But when we trust in Him, if we love Him we will obey His commands until He comes to take us home.
Amen
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19 February 2007, 11:06 PM
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The main persecution of Christians in the world is from Muslim states...
from here Open Doors USA
Christians (those with a living faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour - who died to take the punishment that we deserved) do not hate muslims. We love you and want to see you guys getting to heaven to spend eternity with the one true God as well.
We don't have to earn our way to heaven, Jesus has already paid the price. But when we trust in Him, if we love Him we will obey His commands until He comes to take us home.
Amen
Mick
from here Open Doors USA
Christians (those with a living faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour - who died to take the punishment that we deserved) do not hate muslims. We love you and want to see you guys getting to heaven to spend eternity with the one true God as well.
We don't have to earn our way to heaven, Jesus has already paid the price. But when we trust in Him, if we love Him we will obey His commands until He comes to take us home.
Amen
Mick
I have to say some of the nicest people I have met are Iranian, really nice, genuine people. Would be a disaster for mankind if the US attacks them.
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19 February 2007, 11:09 PM
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The main persecution of Christians in the world is from Muslim states...
from here Open Doors USA
Christians (those with a living faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour - who died to take the punishment that we deserved) do not hate muslims. We love you and want to see you guys getting to heaven to spend eternity with the one true God as well.
We don't have to earn our way to heaven, Jesus has already paid the price. But when we trust in Him, if we love Him we will obey His commands until He comes to take us home.
Amen
Mick
from here Open Doors USA
Christians (those with a living faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour - who died to take the punishment that we deserved) do not hate muslims. We love you and want to see you guys getting to heaven to spend eternity with the one true God as well.
We don't have to earn our way to heaven, Jesus has already paid the price. But when we trust in Him, if we love Him we will obey His commands until He comes to take us home.
Amen
Mick
, poor jesus peace be upon him he didnt wanna die on the cross, read your bible my friend he woz forced tae and God didnt talk tae himself when he woz incarnated and when jesus asked let this cup pass from me and according tae your book , God didnt reply, but so woz he speaking tae himself or what and he woz on the cross and he said eli eli lama sabacthani meaning my lord my lord why have u forsaken mesee he didnt wanna die for your sins and he said himself everyone bares their own responsibility
jesus in the quran never died but God saved him from the plans of the evil jews at the time, did u know that and all kids r born free of sin and we believe he woz not God but the messenger and messiah, my lil boys middle name is eesa meaning jesus
no one pays for the sins of others, why would God make an innocent person suffer and def not himself, coz christians say jesus woz God incarnate
so if God forgave adam he wouldnt need tae be born of a virgin and inside the tummy for 9 months and then grow up and be crucified, he should have known at the time if he forgives adam he wont need tae suffer at the end, so it makes satan a partner wae God that God has tae be in hell for 3 days, i dont believe it
in the quran jesus pbuh is nothing like that, he is a holy messiah as the messengers before him and God saved him from the plots of the jews
and he didnt die but woz raised tae heaven
YouTube - Muslim Women in Hijab: You're Beautiful!
YouTube - Jesus in Christianity and Islam
also the full book
JESUS (PBUH) DID NOT DIE - Harun Yahya
19 February 2007, 11:13 PM
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all this evil propaganda
here have a look at this interview aboot an iraqi christian american
YouTube - TIMZ interviewed on FOX News' Hannity & Colmes
19 February 2007, 11:14 PM
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19 February 2007, 11:17 PM
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Multiple times too I'd guess.
Anyway, goodnight. I need to be in Rotterdam early tomorrow and need my beauty sleep
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19 February 2007, 11:18 PM
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thanks mate and did u know in iraq mate the christians said saddam treated them and protected them
all this evil propaganda
here have a look at this interview aboot an iraqi christian american
YouTube - TIMZ interviewed on FOX News' Hannity & Colmes
all this evil propaganda
here have a look at this interview aboot an iraqi christian american
YouTube - TIMZ interviewed on FOX News' Hannity & Colmes
19 February 2007, 11:21 PM
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I remember colouring in Ganesha for religious studies homework at school.
I wasn't good at colouring in.
The only time I understand you Moses is when you talk about Evos
I wasn't good at colouring in.
The only time I understand you Moses is when you talk about Evos
19 February 2007, 11:27 PM
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I was sad the day Saddam was hung, I believe he was the only man who could bring stability and peace to Iraq, the country is doomed to suffer for the future because of the lies spread by the Zionist in the US, UK and Israel. He showed more dignity and bravery in those few moments going to the gallows than Bush or Blair have in their entire lives.
the whole new regime is an evil regime a puppet regime for americans and zionist pigs
u know anyway mate it woz a kangaroo court from day one, they didnt even give him a fair trial and also who pushed him tae war against the iranians and gas them and gas the kurds initially before he became the wests boogie man and how they supplied him wae chemical weapons, all this lie and a farce
mate have a read here, very sad but i believe this may be the final nail in the coffin for america and its evil tyranny, all for neocons and israel and the zionists at aipac
how much muslim and christian blood will spill for the zionists , its very sad
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | US 'Iran attack plans' revealed
and also as u know rice woz in palestine and she wont and neither would america recognise the new palestinian unity government
america can never be an honest broker, its in the pockets of the zionists and israeli's
all that aid they stopped and sanctions all coz the public voted for a clean government and not corrupt as the palestinian authority and evil fatah
they all minted money while palestinians suffered and they voted for hamas and the world condemned them and r commiting a holocaust against palestinians for voting hamas, they talk aboot democracy the west does, such bullsh1t
peace mate
i swear i always hated saddam but the way he woz killed i just felt so sorry for him
19 February 2007, 11:28 PM
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hows u mate and andy and sam, aint seen u guys for ages
i heard your car is real fast now lol , well done
hows the other john, is he still aboot
meet up soon God willing, let my evo be completed and we shall rock again
not like the day my engine woz running so rich and in smoke u mind lol
20 February 2007, 08:39 AM
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he sure did mate, u know i hated him so so much but that day i swear i cried for him, he died a martyr and a very brave man while the shia public looked and shouted moqtada moqtada
the whole new regime is an evil regime a puppet regime for americans and zionist pigs
u know anyway mate it woz a kangaroo court from day one, they didnt even give him a fair trial and also who pushed him tae war against the iranians and gas them and gas the kurds initially before he became the wests boogie man and how they supplied him wae chemical weapons, all this lie and a farce
mate have a read here, very sad but i believe this may be the final nail in the coffin for america and its evil tyranny, all for neocons and israel and the zionists at aipac
how much muslim and christian blood will spill for the zionists , its very sad
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | US 'Iran attack plans' revealed
and also as u know rice woz in palestine and she wont and neither would america recognise the new palestinian unity government
america can never be an honest broker, its in the pockets of the zionists and israeli's
all that aid they stopped and sanctions all coz the public voted for a clean government and not corrupt as the palestinian authority and evil fatah
they all minted money while palestinians suffered and they voted for hamas and the world condemned them and r commiting a holocaust against palestinians for voting hamas, they talk aboot democracy the west does, such bullsh1t
peace mate
i swear i always hated saddam but the way he woz killed i just felt so sorry for him
the whole new regime is an evil regime a puppet regime for americans and zionist pigs
u know anyway mate it woz a kangaroo court from day one, they didnt even give him a fair trial and also who pushed him tae war against the iranians and gas them and gas the kurds initially before he became the wests boogie man and how they supplied him wae chemical weapons, all this lie and a farce
mate have a read here, very sad but i believe this may be the final nail in the coffin for america and its evil tyranny, all for neocons and israel and the zionists at aipac
how much muslim and christian blood will spill for the zionists , its very sad
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | US 'Iran attack plans' revealed
and also as u know rice woz in palestine and she wont and neither would america recognise the new palestinian unity government
america can never be an honest broker, its in the pockets of the zionists and israeli's
all that aid they stopped and sanctions all coz the public voted for a clean government and not corrupt as the palestinian authority and evil fatah
they all minted money while palestinians suffered and they voted for hamas and the world condemned them and r commiting a holocaust against palestinians for voting hamas, they talk aboot democracy the west does, such bullsh1t
peace mate
i swear i always hated saddam but the way he woz killed i just felt so sorry for him
And all this god crap!!!?? its so sad how people live their life in this world believing some bloody fairy book or whatever......what a load of complete *ollocks.
20 February 2007, 03:42 PM
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he did alot of evil but he shouldnt have been killed that way, specially when the usa backed him tae gas the shia in the first place and still supported them when he massacred iraqi shia;s before things went bad
20 February 2007, 05:54 PM
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let my evo be completed and we shall rock again
Decent morals instilled by our parents and common sense are all we need to live by.
And at the end of our lives (if there is a god) what decent god is going to turn us away for living a decent life anyway.
20 February 2007, 06:24 PM
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Stop wasting time with 'religion' moses and get on with the Evo!
Decent morals instilled by our parents and common sense are all we need to live by.
And at the end of our lives (if there is a god) what decent god is going to turn us away for living a decent life anyway.
Decent morals instilled by our parents and common sense are all we need to live by.
And at the end of our lives (if there is a god) what decent god is going to turn us away for living a decent life anyway.
lol once i get it back u r welcome for a shot , promise , just dont crash it
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Well, Suresh?
Suresh,
Sorry for the huge error in labelling your 'faith'.
I will try not to lower myself to your condescending level. I think I am reasonably well integrated. I am sure a number of SNetters will testify to that.
Please try to answer some of the points put to you. I will try to answer yours.
Of course I can question Moses. I have, whenever I have spotted him doing it, asked him not to resort to abuse, especially of a religious kind. He has always acknowledged this and apologised.
If I said the same to you all I get is defensiveness, like now.
If Moses is genuinely doing damage to Islam, let him carry on, should be no skin off your nose should it?
For one reason or another he appears to be quite popular and have plenty of friends on SN, some of whom I believe used to be 'enemies' of his.
Did it ever occur to you to question those who would judge you by your skin colour alone? You seem to have a big issue with this. Instead of trying to get all those people with brown skin to conform to what those with white skin want, why not try to get people to look past skin altogether?
Perhaps you are taking integration a bit too far?
Did it also ever occur to you that those who wish to hold you and 'your kin' back, want to do exactly that regardless? That they use the general perception of Islam as a convenient excuse for that?
People will label you as they see fit, regardless of the truth, look at this thread for instance?
People's bad actions are just that, not a by product of their skin colour or their religion. Nutcases are nutcases, thats it, I don't care what their justification is.
Yes there are some issues within Islam that are serious and should be discussed and addressed. This is not what I questioned you about though. Your previous post was aimed purely at labelling all Muslims by the actions of the demented minority.
This appears to be how you are treated yourself and you clearly feel justified in doing it to others.
If the Netherlands are giving you a raw deal, perhaps you should look for somewhere else to call home?
All of the Asian friends and family I know don't seem to have those sorts of problems here and are getting on with their lives.
Take it easy mate.
Asif
Sorry for the huge error in labelling your 'faith'.
I will try not to lower myself to your condescending level. I think I am reasonably well integrated. I am sure a number of SNetters will testify to that.
Please try to answer some of the points put to you. I will try to answer yours.
Of course I can question Moses. I have, whenever I have spotted him doing it, asked him not to resort to abuse, especially of a religious kind. He has always acknowledged this and apologised.
If I said the same to you all I get is defensiveness, like now.
If Moses is genuinely doing damage to Islam, let him carry on, should be no skin off your nose should it?
For one reason or another he appears to be quite popular and have plenty of friends on SN, some of whom I believe used to be 'enemies' of his.
Did it ever occur to you to question those who would judge you by your skin colour alone? You seem to have a big issue with this. Instead of trying to get all those people with brown skin to conform to what those with white skin want, why not try to get people to look past skin altogether?
Perhaps you are taking integration a bit too far?
Did it also ever occur to you that those who wish to hold you and 'your kin' back, want to do exactly that regardless? That they use the general perception of Islam as a convenient excuse for that?
People will label you as they see fit, regardless of the truth, look at this thread for instance?
People's bad actions are just that, not a by product of their skin colour or their religion. Nutcases are nutcases, thats it, I don't care what their justification is.
Yes there are some issues within Islam that are serious and should be discussed and addressed. This is not what I questioned you about though. Your previous post was aimed purely at labelling all Muslims by the actions of the demented minority.
This appears to be how you are treated yourself and you clearly feel justified in doing it to others.
If the Netherlands are giving you a raw deal, perhaps you should look for somewhere else to call home?
All of the Asian friends and family I know don't seem to have those sorts of problems here and are getting on with their lives.
Take it easy mate.
Asif
22 February 2007, 09:26 PM
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okay, okay...
Just spotted this Asif.
You post does ramble on a bit , which is why I never bothered to answer. Obviously you think its important, so here are responses to every sentence that ends with a question mark -
Q: If Moses is genuinely doing damage to Islam, let him carry on, should be no skin off your nose should it?
A: If that doesn't bother you then why should anything I type bother you either?
Q: Did it ever occur to you to question those who would judge you by your skin colour alone? You seem to have a big issue with this. Instead of trying to get all those people with brown skin to conform to what those with white skin want, why not try to get people to look past skin altogether?
A: What gets my goat is that because of events stated in post #39 and many others, the general populace tends to assume that people of Asian persuasion are all intolerant, potential terrorists.
Q: Perhaps you are taking integration a bit too far?
A: Perhaps not. What I'm talking about is self-awareness. Are people actually aware that how they project their identity will affect their lives? Idiots insisting they be allowed to wear anything they want because their religion dictates it clearly lack a modicum of self-awareness and should expect to be treated accordingly.
Q: Did it also ever occur to you that those who wish to hold you and 'your kin' back, want to do exactly that regardless? That they use the general perception of Islam as a convenient excuse for that?
A: Not true. I am a reasonably successful seasoned banker these days. I expect those trying to break through now will have a harder time for the reasons given in post #39. If I hear the comments of recruiters from various countries, there is something behind my suspicions and the cause is ..... You fill in the blank.
Q: People will label you as they see fit, regardless of the truth, look at this thread for instance?
A: Do you mean your friend the BANNED
illiterate terrorist's unacceptable insults about another religion (hinduism), even though I am not a hindu? Or was there something else you had in mind?
Q: If the Netherlands are giving you a raw deal, perhaps you should look for somewhere else to call home?
A: This is a great place to raise a family. I am very happy in The Netherlands and never said otherwise.
Q: Did you ever come back from Rotterdam?
A: Yes I did, thanks. Had a very successful trip, thanks.
Happy?
You post does ramble on a bit
, which is why I never bothered to answer. Obviously you think its important, so here are responses to every sentence that ends with a question mark -Q: If Moses is genuinely doing damage to Islam, let him carry on, should be no skin off your nose should it?
A: If that doesn't bother you then why should anything I type bother you either?
Q: Did it ever occur to you to question those who would judge you by your skin colour alone? You seem to have a big issue with this. Instead of trying to get all those people with brown skin to conform to what those with white skin want, why not try to get people to look past skin altogether?
A: What gets my goat is that because of events stated in post #39 and many others, the general populace tends to assume that people of Asian persuasion are all intolerant, potential terrorists.
Q: Perhaps you are taking integration a bit too far?
A: Perhaps not. What I'm talking about is self-awareness. Are people actually aware that how they project their identity will affect their lives? Idiots insisting they be allowed to wear anything they want because their religion dictates it clearly lack a modicum of self-awareness and should expect to be treated accordingly.
Q: Did it also ever occur to you that those who wish to hold you and 'your kin' back, want to do exactly that regardless? That they use the general perception of Islam as a convenient excuse for that?
A: Not true. I am a reasonably successful seasoned banker these days. I expect those trying to break through now will have a harder time for the reasons given in post #39. If I hear the comments of recruiters from various countries, there is something behind my suspicions and the cause is ..... You fill in the blank.
Q: People will label you as they see fit, regardless of the truth, look at this thread for instance?
A: Do you mean your friend the BANNED
illiterate terrorist's unacceptable insults about another religion (hinduism), even though I am not a hindu? Or was there something else you had in mind?Q: If the Netherlands are giving you a raw deal, perhaps you should look for somewhere else to call home?
A: This is a great place to raise a family. I am very happy in The Netherlands and never said otherwise.
Q: Did you ever come back from Rotterdam?
A: Yes I did, thanks. Had a very successful trip, thanks.
Happy?
22 February 2007, 10:35 PM
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Some miserable cvnt most likely. Ok Moses can be a bit odd at times but he's a decent bloke really, it's a shame he's been banned IMO.
This forum seems to worship more **** each week that passes, hopefully some tw@t will red card me too so I have an excuse to stop coming here.
W@nkers.
This forum seems to worship more **** each week that passes, hopefully some tw@t will red card me too so I have an excuse to stop coming here.
W@nkers.
22 February 2007, 10:53 PM
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Just spotted this Asif.
You post does ramble on a bit , which is why I never bothered to answer. Obviously you think its important, so here are responses to every sentence that ends with a question mark -
Q: If Moses is genuinely doing damage to Islam, let him carry on, should be no skin off your nose should it?
A: If that doesn't bother you then why should anything I type bother you either?
Q: Did it ever occur to you to question those who would judge you by your skin colour alone? You seem to have a big issue with this. Instead of trying to get all those people with brown skin to conform to what those with white skin want, why not try to get people to look past skin altogether?
A: What gets my goat is that because of events stated in post #39 and many others, the general populace tends to assume that people of Asian persuasion are all intolerant, potential terrorists.
Q: Perhaps you are taking integration a bit too far?
A: Perhaps not. What I'm talking about is self-awareness. Are people actually aware that how they project their identity will affect their lives? Idiots insisting they be allowed to wear anything they want because their religion dictates it clearly lack a modicum of self-awareness and should expect to be treated accordingly.
Q: Did it also ever occur to you that those who wish to hold you and 'your kin' back, want to do exactly that regardless? That they use the general perception of Islam as a convenient excuse for that?
A: Not true. I am a reasonably successful seasoned banker these days. I expect those trying to break through now will have a harder time for the reasons given in post #39. If I hear the comments of recruiters from various countries, there is something behind my suspicions and the cause is ..... You fill in the blank.
Q: People will label you as they see fit, regardless of the truth, look at this thread for instance?
A: Do you mean your friend the BANNED illiterate terrorist's unacceptable insults about another religion (hinduism), even though I am not a hindu? Or was there something else you had in mind?
Q: If the Netherlands are giving you a raw deal, perhaps you should look for somewhere else to call home?
A: This is a great place to raise a family. I am very happy in The Netherlands and never said otherwise.
Q: Did you ever come back from Rotterdam?
A: Yes I did, thanks. Had a very successful trip, thanks.
Happy?
You post does ramble on a bit
, which is why I never bothered to answer. Obviously you think its important, so here are responses to every sentence that ends with a question mark -Q: If Moses is genuinely doing damage to Islam, let him carry on, should be no skin off your nose should it?
A: If that doesn't bother you then why should anything I type bother you either?
Q: Did it ever occur to you to question those who would judge you by your skin colour alone? You seem to have a big issue with this. Instead of trying to get all those people with brown skin to conform to what those with white skin want, why not try to get people to look past skin altogether?
A: What gets my goat is that because of events stated in post #39 and many others, the general populace tends to assume that people of Asian persuasion are all intolerant, potential terrorists.
Q: Perhaps you are taking integration a bit too far?
A: Perhaps not. What I'm talking about is self-awareness. Are people actually aware that how they project their identity will affect their lives? Idiots insisting they be allowed to wear anything they want because their religion dictates it clearly lack a modicum of self-awareness and should expect to be treated accordingly.
Q: Did it also ever occur to you that those who wish to hold you and 'your kin' back, want to do exactly that regardless? That they use the general perception of Islam as a convenient excuse for that?
A: Not true. I am a reasonably successful seasoned banker these days. I expect those trying to break through now will have a harder time for the reasons given in post #39. If I hear the comments of recruiters from various countries, there is something behind my suspicions and the cause is ..... You fill in the blank.
Q: People will label you as they see fit, regardless of the truth, look at this thread for instance?
A: Do you mean your friend the BANNED
illiterate terrorist's unacceptable insults about another religion (hinduism), even though I am not a hindu? Or was there something else you had in mind?Q: If the Netherlands are giving you a raw deal, perhaps you should look for somewhere else to call home?
A: This is a great place to raise a family. I am very happy in The Netherlands and never said otherwise.
Q: Did you ever come back from Rotterdam?
A: Yes I did, thanks. Had a very successful trip, thanks.
Happy?
Don't be so defensive mate, I feel as though I have clearly identified a few issues for you here.
I had a friend at college who had an English Mother and an Asian Father but was brought up exclusively by his Mother. All the time he used to try his hardest to fit in with English culture, so much so it became almost exaggerated.
Everywhere he went he got called a paki, due to his appearance. However, he had no connection with his Fathers heritage whatsoever, so he found this to be particularly cruel.
His response was to try to become the 'Most English Bloke in the World', referring to other Asians as paki's for instance, screaming the loudest at England games (when I got us all in), drinking the most lager (until he became incontinent) etc.
He was very smart and has become very successful, making lots of money.
He still has problems with his identity however and frankly, I feel sorry for him.
Just thought I would tell you this as what little I know of you reminds me of him.
Not nice being labelled, stereotyped, or pigeon-holed is it? I don't like it either.
So try to be nice and have a reasonable discussion. Get off your high horse or take your own advice and just ignore it.
All the best.
Asif