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Update: Drs have described the baby's condition as

"sorted"!

Chip Sengravy

BOOM_TISH!!

speedymonkey

I think that sentence is very harsh.

Drugs just like alcohol can be fine, as long as there done in moderation.
Most people can go out in an evening and have a couple of pints and a glass or 2 of wine, with no problems whilst leading a normal life, and hold a job down.
The same can also be said for people who go out on a saturday night and have a couple of lines, or a pill, and have a ball of a night, without harming/robbing/beating anyone up, whilst also leading a normal life and holding a job down.
As already stated, the problems start to arise when your own actions infrindge on others lives.
A very good friend of mine has had serious drinking problems for the last 12 years, and is heading for a very early grave
Ive never really understood why drugs and alcohol are viewed in such different lights, after all both are mood altering substances that in extreme use, put the user in danger in a number of ways

For 95% of use having a little bit of anything every now and again will never do us any harm, but why the other 5% devolop problems is a mistery to me?

Anyway, just thought id give my opinion before i go to the pub for a couple of shandys

astraboy

Having never taken the stuff, its interesting to read about what it makes you feel on the inside.

Unfortunately, you cant escape the small inconvenience that on the outside you come over like an aggressive, obnoxious areshole.

Sorry, but you and I both know its the truth.
astraboy.

RUDDY

not everyone who take drugs are aggressive lager louts shouting abuse and dancing like a dick head! in fact im far far from it! what we do is get together play guitar and have a drink till the early hours of the morning! im not evan out in the pub acting like an aggressive obnoxious arsehole i think what you are refering to is the ecstasy users? eyes slurring everywere chewing your own face off! that is not what i like to do!
just goes to show people who use this drug do for all sorts of reasons and events! it would seem most people think their roaming the strrets looking for mischief! there are people that do that, im sure but, not all! infact when i do get some sniff i dont leave the house with it and all is done on my own property! i wouldnt even consider going in to the pub loo to do it! again i know some people may want to!

astraboy

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Aggressive pill heads?
Well theres a first time for everything!
I'm sure football hooligans up and down the land are all double dropping before it all kicks off to get them more "aggressive".
never has been more appropriate.
astraboy.

RUDDY

**** knows what they do! im neither a football fan or a pillhead! i was just speaking for my self! you confused me with some sort of thug so i told you what it was like for me!
i doubt your with anybody lol!

Minitrue

Astraboy "I say NO to Class As ! shock!

astraboy

heh, contrary to popular belief, I have never taken an illegal drug in my life.
Not even puff.
However, I do believe that with drugs, its a lifestyle choice and is best covered by the "each to their own" philopsophy. However, I harbour a grudge against coke as its ****ed up more than a few people around me and anyone who I am unfortunate enough to be near who takes it is rendered completely insufferable.
astraboy.

Minitrue

Like Exscooby for example?

MoT

Chip Sengravy

Not seen him for a bit, I used to read his hair pulling contests with astraboy from start to finish

MJW

I've been pro-drugs for quite a while and have taken just about every substance going. But what did make me think about it was when my 15-year old stepdaughter came to me and said that her friends were doing cocaine and were persuading her to try some. Now, I'm grateful she could actually talk to me about this as I've made no secret of my drug-abusing past so I feel I'm in a better position to offer proper advice instead of the 'don't-do-it-or-it'll-kill-you' approach. So I explained to her what it was, how it's taken and what the physiological effects were. I also told her that whatever she did put up her nose probably contained about 10% of actual cocaine and 90% of random white powder cutting agents. I also told her that the last gram I snorted resulted in me getting a sinus infection which rendered me virtually deaf for 6 months. Was this enough to put her off ? Time will tell, she'll make her own decision. Would all the occasional coke sniffers on this thread be happy if they found their kids doing it ? I know I wouldn't.

Chip Sengravy

You kind of contradict yourself there MJW, you say that you wouldn't be happy knowing she was using coke, but you have made no secret of your use yourself to her....I would say this sends out the message that it's cool....your her dad, she will look up to you.


enough to put her off?...I doubt it

MJW

I know its a contradiction, thats what I'm trying to get across. When I say I've made no secret of it, I don't mean being blatant about it, I just answered her questions about it truthfully and did nothing to really glamourise it or make it appear cool. It might not put her off, but I know quite a few people who've come unstuck with over-zealous cocaine use and obviously I don't want her to be one of them.

RUDDY

so who has done acid then??? mad or what!
thought i was going to die the first time!

Chip Sengravy

Is this turning into a drug-off?

RUDDY

no not at all just now a few have opened up thought id ask whos dabbled with what! no crack or heroin here!
so go on chip, what you had??? lol!
top gear soon too!

Chip Sengravy

The usual suspects

RUDDY

who else on this thread visits the dark side now and again??
theres gotta be a few!

WRXforever

After the week I have had I could do with some... No seriously, don't like hard drugs or the people who use them.

If you deal, and they catch you then tough!

Daryl

Not by the time it has been cut.

The point that a lot of people seem to be missing is that he would have been well aware of the consequences of getting caught, but chose to accept the risk, no doubt driven by greed.

RUDDY

should coke be counted as hard drugs though???
heroin and crack are suposed to really effect you! coke dosnt really turn you into an eye rolling zombie does it!

Luan Pra bang

18 years is a hell of alot for 17kg's of coke on a first offence 10 maybe 18 is an absolute **** take. I don't know anyone who could cut coke that much and sell it

Luan Pra bang

Funny to come back to this thread having been in the pubs around town all afternoon. After the lull post football all the deakers get moving and half the town starts on the charlie Which is my que to go home rather than listen to people talk **** all night.

It still amazes me that the likes of Leslie cannot admit that the majority of cocaine users don't end up as theives and live their lives the same as everyone else. Cocaine use has never been as high as it is now but rather than deal with rational debates the knee jerk reactionary stance only muddies the issue and prevents real progress to try and reduce drug use in the UK.
Why is a dealer responsable for the actions of a drug user ? It sems to me that typical leftie politics that Leslie supports just exaberate the problems in the UK

RUDDY

also worth noting that evan though this guy has been robbed of his life, it wont make a blind bit of difference to anybody wanting to buy coke! its that easy to get! i know loads of people who sell coke (class a) i know about 2 people that have consistantly got weed to sell (class c)!
he would have been sorted for a while! plenty of money to do what he wants to! know doubt he dosnt evan sniff coke! and think thats what the real issue is! people cant stand to see someone generate a million so quickly! its not his fault people like coke! its the fools like myself that get into it! you wouldnt buy a fuct scoob just cause someone is selling it! you would buy it cause you wanted it!!

BEW

I dabble every now and again and have done for 16 years now! Never had to steal,never caused anyone else any harm,never missed a day of work and have touched nought for a couple of years at a time with no problems!

I'm a bit confused to see Astraboy being so anti "drugs" when he has been on here in the past admitting to being on ephridine to go raving! A long time ago I tried the same and to be honest going blind for an hour in my silly youth didn't exactly make me want to do it again!

RUDDY

bew thats exactly how it is for many of us! its not like we have got nothing to live for! we have good cars a good home a loving family and good jobs! we dont need drugs to live! however we know its ****ing good fun to get wasted now and again!
some people on scoobynet are so used to arguing and getting one on someone
that if you dont know them they will just put you down regardless of what you say!

Sti_Prodrive

bottom line is.. he was doin wrong & he's plans was to sell it off & make money which means mess aroudn with other people's lifes, there4 he shouldnt b let out at all...

No Fuking Long Thing .......

Leslie

I certainly did not give any indication what papers I might read, you are letting your imagination run away with you, or maybe looking for a cheap way to try to score over me, neither does it have any bearing on this discussion in any case. I certainly did not accuse you or infer that you personally use any form of drug or alcohol. You need to be very accurate if you are going to attempt to use such an argument.

If you had read my post more carefully you might have realised that I was being in no way judgemental, but was simply relating the known and true implications of going over the top with any of these substances. My reason for giving these facts was so that you might understand my strong attitude against pushing your luck by taking drugs. This is partly from the problem I had by being hooked on cigarettes for a considerable time and also the difficulty I had in kicking the habit. Getting a drug habit, or alcohol for that matter is eventually going to ruin your life-you can be sure of that. You F1 fan can count yourself lucky,or sensible, for not being drawn into that.

I believe that what I have said just cannot be denied with any form of logic.

I don't mind at all being criticised or being disagreed with, that it what a forum is all about anyway. I do think however that you should at least get your facts right.

Les

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Les, your initial post gives every indication of what type of paper you might read As for 'scoring points' not my bag I am afraid so you are barking up the wrong tree. Unlike some on here I don't view this place as some kind of macho bull**** playground, couldn't give a toss what my post count is and certainly won't lose any sleep over anything anyone writes to me so please leave that sort of comment for the more regaulr NSR clique.

You inferred I used drugs as much as I inferred you read The Daily Mail (arguably the more dangerous of the two pastimes). How else do you rationalise these comments in reply to me?

I suppose that was the 'royal you' was it? Anyway, no matter as I truly don't mind if you did or not and if not and you feel offended I apologise, but I think most if not all would draw the same conclusion I did.

As for getting your facts right, let's just read this again

That quote is about as factually incorrect as they come so please put your own house in order first.

Les at the end of the day I just feel that given the use of coke and the likes is not confined to a small criminal minority like the powers that be would like to have us believe and is therefore obviously not the complete and utter evil it is portrayed as and that arguably more damaging and addictive drugs seem to be legal combined with the problems caused by the fact that some of these drugs are illegal (dealers etc) that maybe the time has come to look at alternative approach regarding certain drugs.

I know that view may seem abhorrent to you and others, but sometimes a radically alternative approach to reflect a changing society is what is required.